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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
    While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
    But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
    I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

    To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
    While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
    But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
    I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

    Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

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      @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

      To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
      While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
      But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
      I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

      Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

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      @jk said in Parker v ??:

      @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

      To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
      While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
      But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
      I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

      Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

      Parker has quite a short reach compared to Joshua.

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        @jk said in Parker v ??:

        @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

        To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
        While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
        But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
        I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

        Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

        Parker has quite a short reach compared to Joshua.

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        @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

        @jk said in Parker v ??:

        @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

        To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
        While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
        But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
        I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

        Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

        Parker has quite a short reach compared to Joshua.

        Joshua has quite a long reach compared to most.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

          @jk said in Parker v ??:

          @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

          To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
          While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
          But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
          I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

          Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

          Parker has quite a short reach compared to Joshua.

          Joshua has quite a long reach compared to most.

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          @crucial said in Parker v ??:

          @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

          @jk said in Parker v ??:

          @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

          To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
          While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
          But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
          I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

          Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

          Parker has quite a short reach compared to Joshua.

          Joshua has quite a long reach compared to most.

          True but Parkers is pretty ordinary for someone 6 foot 4

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          • MN5M MN5

            @crucial said in Parker v ??:

            @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

            @jk said in Parker v ??:

            @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

            To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
            While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
            But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
            I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

            Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

            Parker has quite a short reach compared to Joshua.

            Joshua has quite a long reach compared to most.

            True but Parkers is pretty ordinary for someone 6 foot 4

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            @mn5 I saw people in some boxing forums referring to Parker as T Rex

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            • MN5M MN5

              @crucial said in Parker v ??:

              @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

              @jk said in Parker v ??:

              @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

              To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
              While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
              But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
              I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

              Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

              Parker has quite a short reach compared to Joshua.

              Joshua has quite a long reach compared to most.

              True but Parkers is pretty ordinary for someone 6 foot 4

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              @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

              @crucial said in Parker v ??:

              @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

              @jk said in Parker v ??:

              @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

              To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
              While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
              But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
              I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

              Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

              Parker has quite a short reach compared to Joshua.

              Joshua has quite a long reach compared to most.

              True but Parkers is pretty ordinary for someone 6 foot 4

              Have to admit, I just thought he was average and others were above average, but I looked up a few others and yes JP does seem like a kangaroo.

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              • Number 10N Number 10

                Wasn't it subsequently revealed that Tua had some kind of injury that he fought with and they kept secret in the leadup?

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                @number-10 said in Parker v ??:

                Wasn't it subsequently revealed that Tua had some kind of injury that he fought with and they kept secret in the leadup?

                Broken or cracked ribs partway through the fight, not sure about beforehand, although it's entirely possible that he had a rib injury and Lewis caught him there and broke them properly.

                I remember watching live, and Tua was in it till that happened about round 5, because he suddenly stopped trying to get inside for some reason.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

                  @crucial said in Parker v ??:

                  @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

                  @jk said in Parker v ??:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

                  To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
                  While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
                  But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
                  I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

                  Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

                  Parker has quite a short reach compared to Joshua.

                  Joshua has quite a long reach compared to most.

                  True but Parkers is pretty ordinary for someone 6 foot 4

                  Have to admit, I just thought he was average and others were above average, but I looked up a few others and yes JP does seem like a kangaroo.

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                  @crucial said in Parker v ??:

                  @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

                  @crucial said in Parker v ??:

                  @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

                  @jk said in Parker v ??:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

                  To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
                  While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
                  But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
                  I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .

                  Agree mate. Hope we are wrong but see it panning out this way. We havent seen Joes power for a while now. Hope it returns but hard to gain both speed and power at same time. Usually have to sacrifice one for the other

                  Parker has quite a short reach compared to Joshua.

                  Joshua has quite a long reach compared to most.

                  True but Parkers is pretty ordinary for someone 6 foot 4

                  Have to admit, I just thought he was average and others were above average, but I looked up a few others and yes JP does seem like a kangaroo.

                  Which is why he does that thing where he lunges forward ( almost jumps ) to throw a combo , it’s been a bit easily read in his last few fights , Joshua is pretty good at slipping punches and countering , I have fears of AJ setting him up here .

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                    I remember thinking when JP fought Fury , if Hughie's head had been 5 inches further back off his shoulders Parker would have knocked him out. His lunging gave him too much reach in that fight.

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                      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11980921

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                        @dk said in Parker v ??:

                        @tewaio said in Parker v ??:

                        @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

                        @no-quarter said in Parker v ??:

                        @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

                        @raznomore said in Parker v ??:

                        Remember when Shane Cameron's manager decided it would be a good idea to use his key ring torch, to cringe worthy effect, in the presser before Cameron was basically ruined by Tua? "See that little light? Well its going to be [turns light off] lights out for David Tua..."

                        Higgins is like that every time he opens his mouth. Its like someone's westie uncle has stumbled drunkenly into a press conference and they're actually letting him speak. There's so much corny ass machismo going on. Higgins is the personification of a bright yellow trans am at at traffic light with a bright red outline eagle on the bonnet, hard out revving its engine at teenagers while blasting "eye of the tiger". Out of date.

                        I remember Cameron tried the old 'O for awesome' stuff to try and wind up Tua. Fair to say it didn't work.

                        Fair to say it did work, but not to Cameron's advantage...

                        Smacked him over in round 2 and went to BK afterwards. Legend.

                        Just went and re watched on youtube. Man, Tua destroyed him.

                        I remember thinking that Cameron looked a little scared before the bell rang, and there might be a reason for this.

                        A boxing trainer told me he watched Tua and a young Cameron spar years before this fight, and he said Tua knocked Cameron out. He said Cameron's body was going to remember that once they got in the ring.

                        This match-up was seriously tailor made for a classic Tua KO victory. Stylistically, it couldn't of been better for Tua.

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                          Deontay "Whirling Windmill" Wilder fights Luis "was born during the production of the original Kind Kong" Ortiz this Sunday(NZ/OZ time).

                          People have been saying for some time that Ortiz is older than the 38yo he claims to be and that he is in fact 48yo! It will be an interesting fight but its a circus act and it detracts from the real fight happening later in the month.

                          Who ever wins AJ vs JP is taking WIlders, or potentially Ortiz belt and easily.

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                            Under card starts at 2pm NZ time if anyone is interested. I believe it's on Sky as a non ppv. It's on regular foxtel here in OZ.

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                              Interesting that Wilder's team have taken this fight tbh. Wilder coming in this light means that he's gonna jab and run hoping that Ortiz will tire. Either that or we'll see Ortiz take a blatant dive similar to Malik Scott against Wilder a few years back.

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                                interesting fight this ,

                                I think we probably find out a lot about Wilder , is he a real threat or a myth , but in my opinion , there is still a certain amount of that in Joshua and Joe ..... how good are they really ? do we really know ,

                                If Ortiz is rubbish , he possibly gets found out here , an ageing Ortiz is still a well drilled fighter in the Cuban mould ( which is like being a rugby player from NZ) with a long amateur career , he is technically sound , and a south paw ,

                                Ive got no idea what will happen ,

                                Got a nice free stream happening too , bonus 🙂

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                                  Good round that!

                                  Game on now.

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                                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                    interesting fight this ,

                                    I think we probably find out a lot about Wilder , is he a real threat or a myth , but in my opinion , there is still a certain amount of that in Joshua and Joe ..... how good are they really ? do we really know ,

                                    If Ortiz is rubbish , he possibly gets found out here , an ageing Ortiz is still a well drilled fighter in the Cuban mould ( which is like being a rugby player from NZ) with a long amateur career , he is technically sound , and a south paw ,

                                    Ive got no idea what will happen ,

                                    Got a nice free stream happening too , bonus 🙂

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                                    @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

                                    interesting fight this ,

                                    I think we probably find out a lot about Wilder , is he a real threat or a myth , but in my opinion , there is still a certain amount of that in Joshua and Joe ..... how good are they really ? do we really know ,

                                    If Ortiz is rubbish , he possibly gets found out here , an ageing Ortiz is still a well drilled fighter in the Cuban mould ( which is like being a rugby player from NZ) with a long amateur career , he is technically sound , and a south paw ,

                                    Ive got no idea what will happen ,

                                    Got a nice free stream happening too , bonus 🙂

                                    Off topic but how come few if any of the Cubans ever go pro?

                                    Felix Savon had a ridiculously good amateur record and turned down millions to fight Tyson.

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                                      Both these guys can take a punch!

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                                        Best HW fight in a while. Give Wilder his props as he looked gone. Ortiz needed to finish him off when he had the chance.

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                                          Wilder eventually has too much - great comeback from being all but down at the end of the 6th (or 7th?).

                                          Very entertaining fight.

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