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Blues 2018

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  • TimT Tim

    Based on the above, I am hoping that the team for the opening round will be:

    1. Hodgman
    2. Parsons/Moulds
    3. Tu'ungafasi
    4. Tuipulotu
    5. Scrafton
    6. Kaino
    7. Pryor
    8. Ioane
    9. Pulu
    10. Perofeta
    11. Ioane
    12. SBW
    13. Moala
    14. Nanai
    15. Duffie
    16. Moulds/Apisai
    17. Manu
    18. Tamoaieta
    19. Cowley-Tuioiti
    20. Taramai/Papalii
    21. Nock
    22. Gatland
    23. Faiane/Collins

    Midfield is really tough to pick. I wouldn't be surprised to see Faiane at 12, Ioane at 13, Collins at 15, with SBW on the bench.

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    @tim Id start Manu at loosehead - safer call.

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      One thing I will say - Blues Brisbane 10s side should be better than last year even if they send a development squad again (+ King Carlos) - their extended squad looks a lot better than what they had last year.

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      • TimT Tim

        Based on the above, I am hoping that the team for the opening round will be:

        1. Hodgman
        2. Parsons/Moulds
        3. Tu'ungafasi
        4. Tuipulotu
        5. Scrafton
        6. Kaino
        7. Pryor
        8. Ioane
        9. Pulu
        10. Perofeta
        11. Ioane
        12. SBW
        13. Moala
        14. Nanai
        15. Duffie
        16. Moulds/Apisai
        17. Manu
        18. Tamoaieta
        19. Cowley-Tuioiti
        20. Taramai/Papalii
        21. Nock
        22. Gatland
        23. Faiane/Collins

        Midfield is really tough to pick. I wouldn't be surprised to see Faiane at 12, Ioane at 13, Collins at 15, with SBW on the bench.

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        @tim Yeah, midfield will be tricky to figure out. Can't say I'm keen on the SBW/Moala midfield though - a bit too Warrenball for my liking.

        Unless Moala is performing really well, I'd like to see Moala used as mostly an impact bench option this season.

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        • DiceD Dice

          @tim Yeah, midfield will be tricky to figure out. Can't say I'm keen on the SBW/Moala midfield though - a bit too Warrenball for my liking.

          Unless Moala is performing really well, I'd like to see Moala used as mostly an impact bench option this season.

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          @dice Do you prefer SBW/Ioane or Faiane/SBW?

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          • TimT Tim

            @dice Do you prefer SBW/Ioane or Faiane/SBW?

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            @tim said in Blues 2018:

            @dice Do you prefer SBW/Ioane or Faiane/SBW?

            That's a hard one, because I think both can get good results for us, but I'm not sure I want to move Rieko off the wing yet, just because he's on fire out there.

            I do like the idea of SBW at centre with Faiane at 12, because SBW's best plays last season often came in the wider channels where he could get more one on one situations and he could easily get his arms freer for offloads. With his declining explosiveness, he's finding it harder to get the linebreaks and offloads at 12 with more bodies around him, but out wider, he's still a big mismatch.

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            • DiceD Dice

              @tim said in Blues 2018:

              @dice Do you prefer SBW/Ioane or Faiane/SBW?

              That's a hard one, because I think both can get good results for us, but I'm not sure I want to move Rieko off the wing yet, just because he's on fire out there.

              I do like the idea of SBW at centre with Faiane at 12, because SBW's best plays last season often came in the wider channels where he could get more one on one situations and he could easily get his arms freer for offloads. With his declining explosiveness, he's finding it harder to get the linebreaks and offloads at 12 with more bodies around him, but out wider, he's still a big mismatch.

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              @dice plus if you have SBW @13 and Ioane @11 to defend, is probably a tougher prospect that knowing you just need to tackle MOala at 13.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @dice plus if you have SBW @13 and Ioane @11 to defend, is probably a tougher prospect that knowing you just need to tackle MOala at 13.

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                @taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:

                @dice plus if you have SBW @13 and Ioane @11 to defend, is probably a tougher prospect that knowing you just need to tackle MOala at 13.

                'Just tackling' Moala is easily said than done. He's got a cutting edge on and off the field.

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                  No use having an 11 and 14 if you have a SBW, Moala midfield unless you are banking on getting a lot of kick possession.

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                    SBW edges Moala for vision and distribution imo. Sonny looked to have gained a bit of pace but extra gas at centre is awesome... if you get the other core skills covered. I hope some of the younger midfielders get a sniff.

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                      #196

                      http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2018/02/super-rugby-blues-coach-tana-umaga-hoping-wounded-troops-will-be-good-to-go-for-season-opener.html

                      Blues boss Tana Umaga expects most of his troops - but perhaps not Stephen Perofeta - to be injury-free by the start of Super Rugby action.
                      
                      Kirkpatrick is also currently hurt but likely to be fit and firing imminently.
                      
                      He listed forward Ross Wright as a player who impressed against the Chiefs.
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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2018/02/super-rugby-blues-coach-tana-umaga-hoping-wounded-troops-will-be-good-to-go-for-season-opener.html

                        Blues boss Tana Umaga expects most of his troops - but perhaps not Stephen Perofeta - to be injury-free by the start of Super Rugby action.
                        
                        Kirkpatrick is also currently hurt but likely to be fit and firing imminently.
                        
                        He listed forward Ross Wright as a player who impressed against the Chiefs.
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                        #197

                        @kiwimurph Thank god for that.

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                          #198

                          So given what the injury news, and the performances in the first preseason game, what are we thinking?

                          I'd say that Ruru will be on the bench, and Papali'i and Renata pressed their cases.

                          Questions that spring to mind about the forward pack:

                          Who will start at Loosehead prop? Will Hodgman be preferred for his work rate, with Manu's scrummaging used against a tiring pack, or will they want the best scrum right from the start?

                          How are the hookers looking for match fitness? Hard to say who will be available to play 60 mins, and who will be preferred on the bench.

                          Who will partner Scrafton at lock? I suspect that the superior lineout ability and match fitness of Cowley-Tuioti will see him start, with Tuipulotu eased back off the bench.

                          Will Gibson be fit enough to start at 7? What about Pryor?

                          Will Kanio be ready to start, or will Tupou (or perhaps Ioane with Taramai at 8 )?

                          Who will be the loose forward reserve?

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                            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11991048

                            There is another interesting aspect to this season for Umaga. He is set to be more hands-off on the training pitch this year as he tries a more "director of rugby" role rather than a pure head coach role.

                            The newly arrived Ben Afeaki will be trusted with the scrum, with Steve Jackson again in charge of the forwards and Alistair Rogers the team's defence. Potentially the big change will centre on the team's attack, with former skills coach Dave Ellis taking over the role from Umaga.

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                              Makes sense to keep Tana.

                              He's done a solid job without much to work with at 10.

                              With Perofeta, Black and Plummer around for the next couple of years Blues have some real hope in the 10 shirt for the first time in a long time.

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                                Would be great to pick up a top notch halfback for next season.

                                I'm also hoping that Coventry will be around in 2020 ...

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                                  @tim you'd think Tana has his mind set with Pulu there?

                                  With him as Captain, Ruru or Nock are gonna struggle to get a great deal of time to put pressure on him unless he gets injured.

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                                    @tim you'd think Tana has his mind set with Pulu there?

                                    With him as Captain, Ruru or Nock are gonna struggle to get a great deal of time to put pressure on him unless he gets injured.

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                                    #203

                                    @taniwharugby Sadly enough, that is true. Can't see him saying no to a top performer though.

                                    In the trial game we looked quite a lot sharper with Ruru at 9 than with Pulu.

                                    They need to set up Smith with a girl at Auckland Airport.

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                                      #204

                                      An interesting read.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101328766/reflective-tana-umaga-embraces-the-need-to-improve-as-he-plots-his-blues-revival

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        An interesting read.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101328766/reflective-tana-umaga-embraces-the-need-to-improve-as-he-plots-his-blues-revival

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                                        nzzp
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                                        #205

                                        @kiwimurph

                                        THIS IS OUR YEAR!!!!

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                                          #206

                                          Matt Duffie - time to pay back Tana Umaga with a title

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