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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

    For Blues fans...this might be the last Blues win for a while...

    Blues v Chiefs preseason game

    Ruru might take Nock's bench spot

    The Dalton Papalii try was good, even accounting for some pre season pansy Chiefs tackles

    The Perofeta injury looked innocuous. Just a gentle fend at the end of a good run

    Some good stuff in amongst the normal pre season fluff

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    @duluth said in Super Rugby News:

    Papalii

    Yeah, that try he scored was impressive. Some nice work in the lead-up from Ruru too.

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      I'm so over pre-season. The injury toll year on year seems to get larger

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        Can't take too much out of a game like that, but the forwards played well in general. The line-out was pretty good and the scrum was about even with the Chiefs. The maul attack/defense was good as well, which was one of our major weaknesses last season.

        Was very hard to judge the backs with such limited ball to work with, but Nock and Gatland weren't too good, although I feel like Gatland's play was affected a bit by Nock's poor play. Ruru came on and tidied things up a bit. Kicking from hand is definitely a work on for us.

        Tamati Tua got a lot of game time at both centre and wing, but was a bit out of sorts on defense in both positions.

        Papali'i definitely stood out in that 2nd half. I also thought Sione Havili had a nice 4th quarter(Blake Gibson might want to stop getting injured with this guy around).

        We had Kirkpatrick in at centre in the 3rd quarter, which was weird. When Perofeta and Kirkpatrick went off injured in the 4th quarter, Leger was at fullback, Ruru was at 10, Telea was at 12, and Plummer didn't even get on. Was Plummer injured?

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          canefan
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          #2902

          Quade Cooper is on contract with the Reds but coach BBBT has told him to stay away from training, in an apparent move to change the culture of the franchise

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          • canefanC canefan

            Quade Cooper is on contract with the Reds but coach BBBT has told him to stay away from training, in an apparent move to change the culture of the franchise

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            @canefan said in Super Rugby News:

            Quade Cooper is on contract with the Reds but coach BBBT has told him to stay away from training, in an apparent move to change the culture of the franchise

            Don't worry, Quade doesn't train because there are no facilities to facilitate.....

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @canefan said in Super Rugby News:

              Quade Cooper is on contract with the Reds but coach BBBT has told him to stay away from training, in an apparent move to change the culture of the franchise

              Don't worry, Quade doesn't train because there are no facilities to facilitate.....

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              @act-crusader said in Super Rugby News:

              @canefan said in Super Rugby News:

              Quade Cooper is on contract with the Reds but coach BBBT has told him to stay away from training, in an apparent move to change the culture of the franchise

              Don't worry, Quade doesn't train because there are no facilities to facilitate.....

              At least BBBT's laptop is safe

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                As mentioned earlier I went to the Chiefs-Blues game in Te Kuiti. That was my first time at a match at Rugby Park but there was a huge crowd on a hot day. The kids were all over BBBR when he arrived.

                I don't take too much out of pre-season games and the video has been posted for all to watch. From my view the Chiefs were the better team in the 1st half. It was just some excellent scrambling defence from the Blues that kept the Chiefs out on occasion. Both teams were heavily penalised for offside by Jackson.

                It was all one-way traffic in the 3rd quarter as poor discipline from the Chiefs reserves (i.e., Taranaki players 🙂 ) led to kicks to the corner and the inevitable push-over try. I had a great view of Papali'i's try - speed and strength.

                Ruru is huge for a halfback. Nankivell was fuckin' terrible when he came on.

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                  Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

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                  • SiamS Siam

                    Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

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                    @siam

                    I think its cost

                    Thorn/the Reds assumed Quade would seek an early release and go overseas after being told he wasn't wanted.

                    I think it's funny that Quade is playing out his two years in club rugby and collecting $700,000
                    The Reds are now down a player and however much they contribute to that salary

                    I wouldn't be surprised if Thorn backs down and welcomes him back in. The Reds aren't in a position to piss away cash for nothing.

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                    • SiamS Siam

                      Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

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                      #2908

                      @siam I can't imagine any professional coach being that petty.

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                        #2909

                        Here's BBBT talking about it.

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                        • SiamS Siam

                          Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

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                          @siam said in Super Rugby News:

                          Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

                          According to my Reds insider he was a very polarising figure. Hated by the more senior players and idolised by the young kids who grew up watching him when he was a decent Super player. The big issue was his total lack of commitment and heart in defence. They certainly weren't getting any return on their massive investment in that regard.

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                          • SiamS Siam

                            Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

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                            @siam said in Super Rugby News:

                            Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

                            Glowing endorsements from who exactly? His mates Digby Ioane and Kurtley Beale? Id take that with a grain of salt.

                            The problem is whoever agreed to sign Quade for $700k. He has done jack shit since Super Rugby 2011.

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @siam

                              I think its cost

                              Thorn/the Reds assumed Quade would seek an early release and go overseas after being told he wasn't wanted.

                              I think it's funny that Quade is playing out his two years in club rugby and collecting $700,000
                              The Reds are now down a player and however much they contribute to that salary

                              I wouldn't be surprised if Thorn backs down and welcomes him back in. The Reds aren't in a position to piss away cash for nothing.

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                              Bovidae
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                              @duluth said in Super Rugby News:

                              I think it's funny that Quade is playing out his two years in club rugby and collecting $700,000

                              And spending time renovating his house. Thanks ARU.

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                                #2913

                                Speaking of dud deals, they don't come dumber than the NZRU offering this to Savea:

                                He signed a four-year deal in May 2015 that made him one of the highest paid players in New Zealand history, earning an estimated $800,000 a year.

                                http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11991540

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                                  I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

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                                  • MilkM Milk

                                    I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

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                                    Crucial
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                                    @milk said in Super Rugby News:

                                    I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

                                    It’s all part of the Ferald’s anti Rugby agenda which comes from listening to Ratpoo at smoko

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                                    • MilkM Milk

                                      I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

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                                      @milk The whole premise of the article seems pretty odd i.e. losing Savea could be a watershed moment.

                                      We've lost a heap of players who have fallen by the wayside - the only slightly unusual thing in Julian's case is that his "demise" was evidently a bit more unexpected than most given that the contracting team wrote him a fat and extended contract.

                                      I could name a dozen players I've been more concerned about losing - in fact, Julian's close to the basket of me wishing him Bon voyage and thanks for your efforts.

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                                        Crucial
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                                        Thing with Savea is that he went from awesome performances at the RWC to zero. It wasn't like they signed up a declining player, he just dropped off a cliff.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          Here's BBBT talking about it.

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                                          #2918

                                          @antipodean Brad's not saying a great deal - a lot of "ahh, you knowing" going on.

                                          He's borrowed a leaf out of Mark Hammett's playbook - are the Reds/Quade fans incandescent with rage at the way Quade's been treated or just concerned about the cash that's being pissed away.

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