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  • canefanC canefan

    Quade Cooper is on contract with the Reds but coach BBBT has told him to stay away from training, in an apparent move to change the culture of the franchise

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    @canefan said in Super Rugby News:

    Quade Cooper is on contract with the Reds but coach BBBT has told him to stay away from training, in an apparent move to change the culture of the franchise

    Don't worry, Quade doesn't train because there are no facilities to facilitate.....

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      @canefan said in Super Rugby News:

      Quade Cooper is on contract with the Reds but coach BBBT has told him to stay away from training, in an apparent move to change the culture of the franchise

      Don't worry, Quade doesn't train because there are no facilities to facilitate.....

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      @act-crusader said in Super Rugby News:

      @canefan said in Super Rugby News:

      Quade Cooper is on contract with the Reds but coach BBBT has told him to stay away from training, in an apparent move to change the culture of the franchise

      Don't worry, Quade doesn't train because there are no facilities to facilitate.....

      At least BBBT's laptop is safe

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        As mentioned earlier I went to the Chiefs-Blues game in Te Kuiti. That was my first time at a match at Rugby Park but there was a huge crowd on a hot day. The kids were all over BBBR when he arrived.

        I don't take too much out of pre-season games and the video has been posted for all to watch. From my view the Chiefs were the better team in the 1st half. It was just some excellent scrambling defence from the Blues that kept the Chiefs out on occasion. Both teams were heavily penalised for offside by Jackson.

        It was all one-way traffic in the 3rd quarter as poor discipline from the Chiefs reserves (i.e., Taranaki players 🙂 ) led to kicks to the corner and the inevitable push-over try. I had a great view of Papali'i's try - speed and strength.

        Ruru is huge for a halfback. Nankivell was fuckin' terrible when he came on.

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        • SiamS Offline
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          Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

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          • SiamS Siam

            Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

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            @siam

            I think its cost

            Thorn/the Reds assumed Quade would seek an early release and go overseas after being told he wasn't wanted.

            I think it's funny that Quade is playing out his two years in club rugby and collecting $700,000
            The Reds are now down a player and however much they contribute to that salary

            I wouldn't be surprised if Thorn backs down and welcomes him back in. The Reds aren't in a position to piss away cash for nothing.

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            • SiamS Siam

              Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

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              @siam I can't imagine any professional coach being that petty.

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                #2909

                Here's BBBT talking about it.

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                • SiamS Siam

                  Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

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                  @siam said in Super Rugby News:

                  Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

                  According to my Reds insider he was a very polarising figure. Hated by the more senior players and idolised by the young kids who grew up watching him when he was a decent Super player. The big issue was his total lack of commitment and heart in defence. They certainly weren't getting any return on their massive investment in that regard.

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                  • SiamS Siam

                    Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

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                    @siam said in Super Rugby News:

                    Given the many glowing endorsements Quade geets from teammates (probably true) I sometimes wonder if Thorns cold shoulder has anything to do with Cooper being a complete cock during those Bled games.

                    Glowing endorsements from who exactly? His mates Digby Ioane and Kurtley Beale? Id take that with a grain of salt.

                    The problem is whoever agreed to sign Quade for $700k. He has done jack shit since Super Rugby 2011.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @siam

                      I think its cost

                      Thorn/the Reds assumed Quade would seek an early release and go overseas after being told he wasn't wanted.

                      I think it's funny that Quade is playing out his two years in club rugby and collecting $700,000
                      The Reds are now down a player and however much they contribute to that salary

                      I wouldn't be surprised if Thorn backs down and welcomes him back in. The Reds aren't in a position to piss away cash for nothing.

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                      @duluth said in Super Rugby News:

                      I think it's funny that Quade is playing out his two years in club rugby and collecting $700,000

                      And spending time renovating his house. Thanks ARU.

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                        #2913

                        Speaking of dud deals, they don't come dumber than the NZRU offering this to Savea:

                        He signed a four-year deal in May 2015 that made him one of the highest paid players in New Zealand history, earning an estimated $800,000 a year.

                        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11991540

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                          I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

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                          • MilkM Milk

                            I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

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                            @milk said in Super Rugby News:

                            I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

                            It’s all part of the Ferald’s anti Rugby agenda which comes from listening to Ratpoo at smoko

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                            • MilkM Milk

                              I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

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                              @milk The whole premise of the article seems pretty odd i.e. losing Savea could be a watershed moment.

                              We've lost a heap of players who have fallen by the wayside - the only slightly unusual thing in Julian's case is that his "demise" was evidently a bit more unexpected than most given that the contracting team wrote him a fat and extended contract.

                              I could name a dozen players I've been more concerned about losing - in fact, Julian's close to the basket of me wishing him Bon voyage and thanks for your efforts.

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                                Thing with Savea is that he went from awesome performances at the RWC to zero. It wasn't like they signed up a declining player, he just dropped off a cliff.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  Here's BBBT talking about it.

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                                  @antipodean Brad's not saying a great deal - a lot of "ahh, you knowing" going on.

                                  He's borrowed a leaf out of Mark Hammett's playbook - are the Reds/Quade fans incandescent with rage at the way Quade's been treated or just concerned about the cash that's being pissed away.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    Thing with Savea is that he went from awesome performances at the RWC to zero. It wasn't like they signed up a declining player, he just dropped off a cliff.

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                                    @crucial His form was terrible throughout 2015. He only had one decent performance all year - the quarter final against France.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @crucial His form was terrible throughout 2015. He only had one decent performance all year - the quarter final against France.

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                                      @tim guess they thought 2015 was likely just a blip given 2014, nope...and they had previously signed other players supposedly in demise for long stints (McCaw & DC) and copped alot of shit so signing him in a position that often see the drop off a bit more dramatically probably wasnt thier best move

                                      NZR are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

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                                        Even if you watch that quarterfinal performance of Savea v France it was more hype than substance.

                                        He had two clear runs to the line for tries and if you watch his famous bump off try the Frenchie defender was so far on his heels it wasnt funny. His decline definitely started in 2015.

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @antipodean Brad's not saying a great deal - a lot of "ahh, you knowing" going on.

                                          He's borrowed a leaf out of Mark Hammett's playbook - are the Reds/Quade fans incandescent with rage at the way Quade's been treated or just concerned about the cash that's being pissed away.

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                                          @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

                                          @antipodean Brad's not saying a great deal - a lot of "ahh, you knowing" going on.

                                          He's borrowed a leaf out of Mark Hammett's playbook - are the Reds/Quade fans incandescent with rage at the way Quade's been treated or just concerned about the cash that's being pissed away.

                                          That's the Reds fucked for another 4 years then. But I'll bet they get an A+ for their efforts on the training paddock.

                                          Only the truebelievers in Brisbane and dickheads in the press still love Kwade. I'd say the vast majority of fans couldn't give a shit and are more pissed off that they paid stupid money to bring him back from France.

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