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  • TimT Offline
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    #2913

    Speaking of dud deals, they don't come dumber than the NZRU offering this to Savea:

    He signed a four-year deal in May 2015 that made him one of the highest paid players in New Zealand history, earning an estimated $800,000 a year.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11991540

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    • MilkM Offline
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      I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

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      • MilkM Milk

        I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

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        @milk said in Super Rugby News:

        I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

        It’s all part of the Ferald’s anti Rugby agenda which comes from listening to Ratpoo at smoko

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        • MilkM Milk

          I don't understand Paul's stance in that article. It would seem like a positive if NZR was able to negotiate significant payments to let go in-contract players. He's trying to make it seem like a negative: another indictment of us losing the battle.

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          @milk The whole premise of the article seems pretty odd i.e. losing Savea could be a watershed moment.

          We've lost a heap of players who have fallen by the wayside - the only slightly unusual thing in Julian's case is that his "demise" was evidently a bit more unexpected than most given that the contracting team wrote him a fat and extended contract.

          I could name a dozen players I've been more concerned about losing - in fact, Julian's close to the basket of me wishing him Bon voyage and thanks for your efforts.

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            Thing with Savea is that he went from awesome performances at the RWC to zero. It wasn't like they signed up a declining player, he just dropped off a cliff.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              Here's BBBT talking about it.

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              @antipodean Brad's not saying a great deal - a lot of "ahh, you knowing" going on.

              He's borrowed a leaf out of Mark Hammett's playbook - are the Reds/Quade fans incandescent with rage at the way Quade's been treated or just concerned about the cash that's being pissed away.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                Thing with Savea is that he went from awesome performances at the RWC to zero. It wasn't like they signed up a declining player, he just dropped off a cliff.

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                @crucial His form was terrible throughout 2015. He only had one decent performance all year - the quarter final against France.

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                • TimT Tim

                  @crucial His form was terrible throughout 2015. He only had one decent performance all year - the quarter final against France.

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                  #2920

                  @tim guess they thought 2015 was likely just a blip given 2014, nope...and they had previously signed other players supposedly in demise for long stints (McCaw & DC) and copped alot of shit so signing him in a position that often see the drop off a bit more dramatically probably wasnt thier best move

                  NZR are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

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                    Even if you watch that quarterfinal performance of Savea v France it was more hype than substance.

                    He had two clear runs to the line for tries and if you watch his famous bump off try the Frenchie defender was so far on his heels it wasnt funny. His decline definitely started in 2015.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @antipodean Brad's not saying a great deal - a lot of "ahh, you knowing" going on.

                      He's borrowed a leaf out of Mark Hammett's playbook - are the Reds/Quade fans incandescent with rage at the way Quade's been treated or just concerned about the cash that's being pissed away.

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                      @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

                      @antipodean Brad's not saying a great deal - a lot of "ahh, you knowing" going on.

                      He's borrowed a leaf out of Mark Hammett's playbook - are the Reds/Quade fans incandescent with rage at the way Quade's been treated or just concerned about the cash that's being pissed away.

                      That's the Reds fucked for another 4 years then. But I'll bet they get an A+ for their efforts on the training paddock.

                      Only the truebelievers in Brisbane and dickheads in the press still love Kwade. I'd say the vast majority of fans couldn't give a shit and are more pissed off that they paid stupid money to bring him back from France.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        Even if you watch that quarterfinal performance of Savea v France it was more hype than substance.

                        He had two clear runs to the line for tries and if you watch his famous bump off try the Frenchie defender was so far on his heels it wasnt funny. His decline definitely started in 2015.

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                        #2923

                        @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

                        Even if you watch that quarterfinal performance of Savea v France it was more hype than substance.

                        He had two clear runs to the line for tries and if you watch his famous bump off try the Frenchie defender was so far on his heels it wasnt funny. His decline definitely started in 2015.

                        Try telling @Bones that. He loves Savea

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @antipodean Brad's not saying a great deal - a lot of "ahh, you knowing" going on.

                          He's borrowed a leaf out of Mark Hammett's playbook - are the Reds/Quade fans incandescent with rage at the way Quade's been treated or just concerned about the cash that's being pissed away.

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                          @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

                          @antipodean Brad's not saying a great deal - a lot of "ahh, you knowing" going on.

                          He's borrowed a leaf out of Mark Hammett's playbook - are the Reds/Quade fans incandescent with rage at the way Quade's been treated or just concerned about the cash that's being pissed away.

                          I see that your latest tactic in your role as publicist for the Hammetteur is to try and link him with BBBT's greatness ;).

                          If he was really to borrow a leaf out of the Hammetteurs playbook he'd

                          1. Install Quade as captain for the entire season and no matter how shit he plays he'll keep selecting him even though he's cancelling his contract.
                          2. Cancel his contract months before the end of the season, even though he's in great form, and then keep selecting him.
                            💣
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                            #2925

                            The Crusaders have a lot of All Blacks, and a number of injured players, so it'll be interesting to see who they start the season with (against the Chiefs).

                            Any idea of the likely starting XV?

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

                              Even if you watch that quarterfinal performance of Savea v France it was more hype than substance.

                              He had two clear runs to the line for tries and if you watch his famous bump off try the Frenchie defender was so far on his heels it wasnt funny. His decline definitely started in 2015.

                              Try telling @Bones that. He loves Savea

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                              @mn5 said in Super Rugby News:

                              @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

                              Even if you watch that quarterfinal performance of Savea v France it was more hype than substance.

                              He had two clear runs to the line for tries and if you watch his famous bump off try the Frenchie defender was so far on his heels it wasnt funny. His decline definitely started in 2015.

                              Try telling @Bones that. He loves Savea

                              I think you're probably the most astute poster on here bro.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @mn5 said in Super Rugby News:

                                @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

                                Even if you watch that quarterfinal performance of Savea v France it was more hype than substance.

                                He had two clear runs to the line for tries and if you watch his famous bump off try the Frenchie defender was so far on his heels it wasnt funny. His decline definitely started in 2015.

                                Try telling @Bones that. He loves Savea

                                I think you're probably the most astute poster on here bro.

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                                MN5
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                                #2927

                                @bones said in Super Rugby News:

                                @mn5 said in Super Rugby News:

                                @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

                                Even if you watch that quarterfinal performance of Savea v France it was more hype than substance.

                                He had two clear runs to the line for tries and if you watch his famous bump off try the Frenchie defender was so far on his heels it wasnt funny. His decline definitely started in 2015.

                                Try telling @Bones that. He loves Savea

                                I think you're probably the most astute poster on here bro.

                                I know right? Imagine if I actually watched Rugby?

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @bones said in Super Rugby News:

                                  @mn5 said in Super Rugby News:

                                  @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

                                  Even if you watch that quarterfinal performance of Savea v France it was more hype than substance.

                                  He had two clear runs to the line for tries and if you watch his famous bump off try the Frenchie defender was so far on his heels it wasnt funny. His decline definitely started in 2015.

                                  Try telling @Bones that. He loves Savea

                                  I think you're probably the most astute poster on here bro.

                                  I know right? Imagine if I actually watched Rugby?

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                                  @mn5 alt text

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                                    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11992243

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @siam I can't imagine any professional coach being that petty.

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                                      @tim said in Super Rugby News:

                                      @siam I can't imagine any professional coach being that petty.

                                      No me neither really, just thought it might be a straw on a camel's back. But only a musing

                                      Link McKenzie told me about the time he dropped Matt Burke from warratahs because at the first interview of the season Burke spent the first half hour talking about his mew house. Link reckoned his mind wasn't on rugby.

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                                        #2931

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101363508/star-hurricanes-playmaker-beauden-barrett-set-to-skip-thursdays-blues-game

                                        Beyond he and Coles and Milner-Skudder, No.8 Blade Thomson and lock Michael Fatialofa are the other first-string players still under injury clouds.

                                        A dislocated shoulder has curtailed Thomson's last two campaigns, with the 2017 one barely lasting 40 minutes, while Fatialofa dislocated his knee against the Blues last year, then suffered a bad post-op infection.

                                        The Hurricanes hope to take both players to Pretoria, but there's still uncertainty about whether either will even be fit to play on Thursday.

                                        "When boys have been a long time away, if there's any worries you don't want to rush them back. They're both nearly ready to go," Holland said.

                                        The most recent additions to the team's rehab group are halfback Finlay Christie (knee) and utility back Peter Umaga-Jensen (shoulder), who both suffered injuries at the Brisbane Global Tens and face at least six to eight weeks on the sideline.

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                                          So the Canes have suffered some injuries from the Tens in Brisbane, but not season-ending like the Chiefs did last year.

                                          I wonder if the other KIwi teams also have some casualties?

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