Parker v ??
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good fight as a spectacle ,
At one stage thought Wilder was going to get the award as the goose of the year for his constant trash talking of Joshua in the lead up
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@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:
interesting fight this ,
I think we probably find out a lot about Wilder , is he a real threat or a myth , but in my opinion , there is still a certain amount of that in Joshua and Joe ..... how good are they really ? do we really know ,
If Ortiz is rubbish , he possibly gets found out here , an ageing Ortiz is still a well drilled fighter in the Cuban mould ( which is like being a rugby player from NZ) with a long amateur career , he is technically sound , and a south paw ,
Ive got no idea what will happen ,
Got a nice free stream happening too , bonus
Off topic but how come few if any of the Cubans ever go pro?
Felix Savon had a ridiculously good amateur record and turned down millions to fight Tyson.
Communist country , they have to defect to do that , but have had the best amateur boxing team in world boxing for some time
@kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:
interesting fight this ,
I think we probably find out a lot about Wilder , is he a real threat or a myth , but in my opinion , there is still a certain amount of that in Joshua and Joe ..... how good are they really ? do we really know ,
If Ortiz is rubbish , he possibly gets found out here , an ageing Ortiz is still a well drilled fighter in the Cuban mould ( which is like being a rugby player from NZ) with a long amateur career , he is technically sound , and a south paw ,
Ive got no idea what will happen ,
Got a nice free stream happening too , bonus
Off topic but how come few if any of the Cubans ever go pro?
Felix Savon had a ridiculously good amateur record and turned down millions to fight Tyson.
Communist country , they have to defect to do that , but have had the best amateur boxing team in world boxing for some time
Righto gotcha. Have never thought about that specifically but it makes sense.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:
interesting fight this ,
I think we probably find out a lot about Wilder , is he a real threat or a myth , but in my opinion , there is still a certain amount of that in Joshua and Joe ..... how good are they really ? do we really know ,
If Ortiz is rubbish , he possibly gets found out here , an ageing Ortiz is still a well drilled fighter in the Cuban mould ( which is like being a rugby player from NZ) with a long amateur career , he is technically sound , and a south paw ,
Ive got no idea what will happen ,
Got a nice free stream happening too , bonus
Off topic but how come few if any of the Cubans ever go pro?
Felix Savon had a ridiculously good amateur record and turned down millions to fight Tyson.
Communist country , they have to defect to do that , but have had the best amateur boxing team in world boxing for some time
Righto gotcha. Have never thought about that specifically but it makes sense.
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:
interesting fight this ,
I think we probably find out a lot about Wilder , is he a real threat or a myth , but in my opinion , there is still a certain amount of that in Joshua and Joe ..... how good are they really ? do we really know ,
If Ortiz is rubbish , he possibly gets found out here , an ageing Ortiz is still a well drilled fighter in the Cuban mould ( which is like being a rugby player from NZ) with a long amateur career , he is technically sound , and a south paw ,
Ive got no idea what will happen ,
Got a nice free stream happening too , bonus
Off topic but how come few if any of the Cubans ever go pro?
Felix Savon had a ridiculously good amateur record and turned down millions to fight Tyson.
Communist country , they have to defect to do that , but have had the best amateur boxing team in world boxing for some time
Righto gotcha. Have never thought about that specifically but it makes sense.
Teofilo Stevenson was probably the greatest amateur heavyweight of all time , 3 consecutive olympic gold medals ,
And boxed during the Ali era , many wished he could somehow switch to the pro ranks , he was 6 foot 5 , massive for that era , was offered 5 million to defect and fight Ali
shame we never got to see how he wouldve gone
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Wilder did benefit from some generous refereeing at the start of the 8th with the mystery water in the ring. It's like deliberately spitting out your mouthguard to buy yourself some time.
For someone who is built like a basketballer (tall and skinny) Wilder does have some power.
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I think wilder deserves an apology from me as he has a pretty good chin to withstand that. Dodgy antics aside.
I still think he's a rubbish fighter, even with this result but he won and that's what matters.
If he fights Joshua he has a chance. Joshua hits harder that Ortiz but his chin is suspect. But if he gets caught like he did today it's over. But he's proved himself against a much higher class of fighter.
Really thought Ortiz would take it before and during much of the fight. Totally shocked he got kod at thatvataye of the fight.
Parker gets through and I don't know what to think. Parker is a speed bump according to most pundits. And shouldn't feature after this next fight. But it'll be interesting if he gets the treats.
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Wilder has genuine power in that right hand but Can’t see him unifying the titles .
I’d prefer if joe was fighting wilder with the winner fighting Joshua , don’t mind his chances there .
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I've only seen the brief highlights but Wilder's wild swinging sure seems to get a bit of help from the ref. He often connects with his forearm on the back or side of the head and at one point it was MMA-ish as he was using elbows before a throw.
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Great comeback from Wilder, but Ortiz missed a golden opportunity.
No doubting his chin and the power in his right hand, but some very dodgy blows in the lead up to the knockout.
Joshua will jab him to death.
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Great comeback from Wilder, but Ortiz missed a golden opportunity.
No doubting his chin and the power in his right hand, but some very dodgy blows in the lead up to the knockout.
Joshua will jab him to death.
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After that fight I give Wilder a serious chance against AJ. Yes his technique is horrible and is wild, but his chin held up very well, something that looked like it would be his downfall earlier in his career, he's fitter than AJ, and his power is something else. It wouldn't suprise me if Wilder stopped him late tbh, hopefully thi fight gets made within the next year or so.
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@raznomore That would be nice as much as I can't see it happening.
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@mikethesnow cart before the horse...
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After that fight I give Wilder a serious chance against AJ. Yes his technique is horrible and is wild, but his chin held up very well, something that looked like it would be his downfall earlier in his career, he's fitter than AJ, and his power is something else. It wouldn't suprise me if Wilder stopped him late tbh, hopefully thi fight gets made within the next year or so.
@african-monkey said in Parker v ??:
After that fight I give Wilder a serious chance against AJ. Yes his technique is horrible and is wild, but his chin held up very well, something that looked like it would be his downfall earlier in his career, he's fitter than AJ, and his power is something else. It wouldn't suprise me if Wilder stopped him late tbh, hopefully thi fight gets made within the next year or so.
If AJ v Wider goes ahead it will be interesting to see where the fight takes place. I would think that AJs camp wants to go stateside to open (and milk) that market but IMO that would be crazy when you see what Wilder gets away with on home ground.
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@african-monkey said in Parker v ??:
After that fight I give Wilder a serious chance against AJ. Yes his technique is horrible and is wild, but his chin held up very well, something that looked like it would be his downfall earlier in his career, he's fitter than AJ, and his power is something else. It wouldn't suprise me if Wilder stopped him late tbh, hopefully thi fight gets made within the next year or so.
If AJ v Wider goes ahead it will be interesting to see where the fight takes place. I would think that AJs camp wants to go stateside to open (and milk) that market but IMO that would be crazy when you see what Wilder gets away with on home ground.
@crucial maybe AJ's team would demand to set the ref and scorers if it was US based. Maybe a home and away agreement if there is a rematch clause
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@african-monkey said in Parker v ??:
After that fight I give Wilder a serious chance against AJ. Yes his technique is horrible and is wild, but his chin held up very well, something that looked like it would be his downfall earlier in his career, he's fitter than AJ, and his power is something else. It wouldn't suprise me if Wilder stopped him late tbh, hopefully thi fight gets made within the next year or so.
If AJ v Wider goes ahead it will be interesting to see where the fight takes place. I would think that AJs camp wants to go stateside to open (and milk) that market but IMO that would be crazy when you see what Wilder gets away with on home ground.
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@crucial It has to take place in the UK. AJ sells out stadiums in a matter of minutes where as Wilder only really attracts 12-13,000 in his home state of Alabama or Brooklyn like he did on the weekend.
@african-monkey said in Parker v ??:
@crucial It has to take place in the UK. AJ sells out stadiums in a matter of minutes where as Wilder only really attracts 12-13,000 in his home state of Alabama or Brooklyn like he did on the weekend.
yeah I wouldve thought Wembley was a no brainer ,
Wilders PPV sales are nothing to rave over either
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I'm watching Junior Fa v Craig Lewis in a truly dreadful fight.
Fa probably doing enough to win on points, but not much in it.
Either way, it is dire stuff.
@damo Yup, have to say he's been poor as a pro. Don't know what fight was worse out of this one and the Hunter Sam fight he had 2 fights back. He's got a bit of hype behind him but he is extremely slow on his feet and very basic. His fitness isn't the best either. Don't think the commentators were very impressed with that performance haha.
