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    Interesting signing. Sherman is a declining player (ageing and coming back from an Achilles rupture), with a reputation for being a difficult locker room guy, who will come with a high price tag. 49ers must be very confident that they're ready to compete this year to have signed him. He'll be a great addition if they can put together a playoff run but if they can't you have to wonder if the playing time could have gone to someone with a long term prospect.

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      Interesting signing. Sherman is a declining player (ageing and coming back from an Achilles rupture), with a reputation for being a difficult locker room guy, who will come with a high price tag. 49ers must be very confident that they're ready to compete this year to have signed him. He'll be a great addition if they can put together a playoff run but if they can't you have to wonder if the playing time could have gone to someone with a long term prospect.

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      @cyclops said in NFL 2017:

      Interesting signing. Sherman is a declining player (ageing and coming back from an Achilles rupture), with a reputation for being a difficult locker room guy, who will come with a high price tag. 49ers must be very confident that they're ready to compete this year to have signed him. He'll be a great addition if they can put together a playoff run but if they can't you have to wonder if the playing time could have gone to someone with a long term prospect.

      Sherman is about as risky as Malcolm Butler tbh, but it's only a 3-year-deal where as Butler could have been 5/6 years. Sherman already knows the defensive coordinator and should be a decent veteran presence alongside Ahkello Witherspoon and Jimmie Ward.

      The 49ers are still targeting Ohio State CB Denzel Ward in the draft but if he was to be taken before the 49ers are at the podium, then they also get the chance to trade down now as Buffalo have signaled that they want to trade up into the top 10 to nab a QB like Josh Allen or Josh Rosen.

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      • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

        @cyclops said in NFL 2017:

        Interesting signing. Sherman is a declining player (ageing and coming back from an Achilles rupture), with a reputation for being a difficult locker room guy, who will come with a high price tag. 49ers must be very confident that they're ready to compete this year to have signed him. He'll be a great addition if they can put together a playoff run but if they can't you have to wonder if the playing time could have gone to someone with a long term prospect.

        Sherman is about as risky as Malcolm Butler tbh, but it's only a 3-year-deal where as Butler could have been 5/6 years. Sherman already knows the defensive coordinator and should be a decent veteran presence alongside Ahkello Witherspoon and Jimmie Ward.

        The 49ers are still targeting Ohio State CB Denzel Ward in the draft but if he was to be taken before the 49ers are at the podium, then they also get the chance to trade down now as Buffalo have signaled that they want to trade up into the top 10 to nab a QB like Josh Allen or Josh Rosen.

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        @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

        @cyclops said in NFL 2017:

        Interesting signing. Sherman is a declining player (ageing and coming back from an Achilles rupture), with a reputation for being a difficult locker room guy, who will come with a high price tag. 49ers must be very confident that they're ready to compete this year to have signed him. He'll be a great addition if they can put together a playoff run but if they can't you have to wonder if the playing time could have gone to someone with a long term prospect.

        Sherman is about as risky as Malcolm Butler tbh, but it's only a 3-year-deal where as Butler could have been 5/6 years. Sherman already knows the defensive coordinator and should be a decent veteran presence alongside Ahkello Witherspoon and Jimmie Ward.

        The 49ers are still targeting Ohio State CB Denzel Ward in the draft but if he was to be taken before the 49ers are at the podium, then they also get the chance to trade down now as Buffalo have signaled that they want to trade up into the top 10 to nab a QB like Josh Allen or Josh Rosen.

        I'm sure they talked about locker room dynamics and Sherman could provide valuable leadership to the group. And if Jimmy G can keep coming up with wins that will fix all issues 😉

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          @cyclops said in NFL 2017:

          Interesting signing. Sherman is a declining player (ageing and coming back from an Achilles rupture), with a reputation for being a difficult locker room guy, who will come with a high price tag. 49ers must be very confident that they're ready to compete this year to have signed him. He'll be a great addition if they can put together a playoff run but if they can't you have to wonder if the playing time could have gone to someone with a long term prospect.

          Sherman is about as risky as Malcolm Butler tbh, but it's only a 3-year-deal where as Butler could have been 5/6 years. Sherman already knows the defensive coordinator and should be a decent veteran presence alongside Ahkello Witherspoon and Jimmie Ward.

          The 49ers are still targeting Ohio State CB Denzel Ward in the draft but if he was to be taken before the 49ers are at the podium, then they also get the chance to trade down now as Buffalo have signaled that they want to trade up into the top 10 to nab a QB like Josh Allen or Josh Rosen.

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          @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

          @cyclops said in NFL 2017:

          Interesting signing. Sherman is a declining player (ageing and coming back from an Achilles rupture), with a reputation for being a difficult locker room guy, who will come with a high price tag. 49ers must be very confident that they're ready to compete this year to have signed him. He'll be a great addition if they can put together a playoff run but if they can't you have to wonder if the playing time could have gone to someone with a long term prospect.

          Sherman is about as risky as Malcolm Butler tbh, but it's only a 3-year-deal where as Butler could have been 5/6 years. Sherman already knows the defensive coordinator and should be a decent veteran presence alongside Ahkello Witherspoon and Jimmie Ward.

          The 49ers are still targeting Ohio State CB Denzel Ward in the draft but if he was to be taken before the 49ers are at the podium, then they also get the chance to trade down now as Buffalo have signaled that they want to trade up into the top 10 to nab a QB like Josh Allen or Josh Rosen.

          Yeah I think all the top tier free agent corners have good arguments for why they shouldn't be picked, so I don't think there's a 'can't miss' FA prospect. That said the way the league is set up at the moment (steady cap increases and the franchise tag) it's pretty uncommon for true elite talents to hit free agency so you've always got to balance their pros and cons, and as you say there are good arguments in favour of Sherman.

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            Adam Schefter reporting that Denver will sign Case Keenum with free agency opening this week. If that does happen I reckon they would still be in the running to draft a QB early - Case Keenum seems a bit underwhelming otherwise.

            There's rumours of Brees to the Vikings but you'd have to think Saints would keep him - the man is a god in New Orleans.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Adam Schefter reporting that Denver will sign Case Keenum with free agency opening this week. If that does happen I reckon they would still be in the running to draft a QB early - Case Keenum seems a bit underwhelming otherwise.

              There's rumours of Brees to the Vikings but you'd have to think Saints would keep him - the man is a god in New Orleans.

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              @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

              Adam Schefter reporting that Denver will sign Case Keenum with free agency opening this week. If that does happen I reckon they would still be in the running to draft a QB early - Case Keenum seems a bit underwhelming otherwise.

              There's rumours of Brees to the Vikings but you'd have to think Saints would keep him - the man is a god in New Orleans.

              Apparently in Kirk Cousins' original farewell address to WSH fans he hinted at Minny or the Jets. Vikings are the better option by far I reckon

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                @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

                Adam Schefter reporting that Denver will sign Case Keenum with free agency opening this week. If that does happen I reckon they would still be in the running to draft a QB early - Case Keenum seems a bit underwhelming otherwise.

                There's rumours of Brees to the Vikings but you'd have to think Saints would keep him - the man is a god in New Orleans.

                Apparently in Kirk Cousins' original farewell address to WSH fans he hinted at Minny or the Jets. Vikings are the better option by far I reckon

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                @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

                Adam Schefter reporting that Denver will sign Case Keenum with free agency opening this week. If that does happen I reckon they would still be in the running to draft a QB early - Case Keenum seems a bit underwhelming otherwise.

                There's rumours of Brees to the Vikings but you'd have to think Saints would keep him - the man is a god in New Orleans.

                Apparently in Kirk Cousins' original farewell address to WSH fans he hinted at Minny or the Jets. Vikings are the better option by far I reckon

                Well, you will know what drives him with his choice of team. Money or a title.
                Apparently, the Jets have more money than the Browns, after the Browns picked up Randall, Landry and Tyrod.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Adam Schefter reporting that Denver will sign Case Keenum with free agency opening this week. If that does happen I reckon they would still be in the running to draft a QB early - Case Keenum seems a bit underwhelming otherwise.

                  There's rumours of Brees to the Vikings but you'd have to think Saints would keep him - the man is a god in New Orleans.

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                  @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

                  Adam Schefter reporting that Denver will sign Case Keenum with free agency opening this week. If that does happen I reckon they would still be in the running to draft a QB early - Case Keenum seems a bit underwhelming otherwise.

                  There's rumours of Brees to the Vikings but you'd have to think Saints would keep him - the man is a god in New Orleans.

                  It's looking like Josh Rosen or Josh Allen could fall to the Broncos at #5 so you have to think they'll take the QB.

                  It's obvious that Cousins is leaning to Vikings unless the Jets give him the world (which they may).
                  But if he goes with the Vikings that will force the Jets and Cardinals to try and trade up to get Darnold, Allen or Rosen ahead of the Bills and Broncos (Browns are guaranteed one unless they fuck it up). Mayfield appears to be the loser's prize (most likely the Cards).

                  Another Schefter report: WR Allen Robinson will sign with Chicago. Be smarter going to the 49ers but he's from that part of the US so makes sense.

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                    So Cousins being reported as going to the vikings now. Makes sense from a win now perspective. Interesting stat I saw was his record against teams who finished the season with a winning record - 4-9. Be interesting to see how his performance compares with Case Keenum's (who is now heading to the Broncos).

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                      So Cousins being reported as going to the vikings now. Makes sense from a win now perspective. Interesting stat I saw was his record against teams who finished the season with a winning record - 4-9. Be interesting to see how his performance compares with Case Keenum's (who is now heading to the Broncos).

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                      @cyclops said in NFL 2017:

                      So Cousins being reported as going to the vikings now. Makes sense from a win now perspective. Interesting stat I saw was his record against teams who finished the season with a winning record - 4-9. Be interesting to see how his performance compares with Case Keenum's (who is now heading to the Broncos).

                      I'm still not convinced he's the goods. He certainly hasn't won much but his team was poor. No excuses if he goes to Minny

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                        Woops typo on that stat vs winning teams, it should be 4-19 not 4-9.

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                          Things are getting interesting.

                          Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                          Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                          Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

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                            So QB moves so far:
                            Smith traded to Redskins
                            Garoppolo reups with 49ers
                            Bortles reups with Jags
                            Taylor traded to Browns
                            Keenum to Broncos
                            Bradford to Cardinals
                            Kizer to Packers
                            McCown resigns with Jets
                            Cousins to vikings

                            So Bridgewater the only remaining free agent of note, probably destined for a competition with McCown at the Jets. Meanwhile Browns, Bills and Jets likely to be the most motivated to draft a qb. The bills especially have been loading up for a move. Lots of other teams holding high picks will be looking closely at the qbs around but I don't think any of them will be keen enough to pay the price to move up, unless someone (Mayfield or Allen most likely) slides into the mid-late first round.

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                              The NFL is always good fun off the field.
                              https://twitter.com/weddlesbeard/status/973635852109787137

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                Things are getting interesting.

                                Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                                Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                                Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

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                                @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                                Things are getting interesting.

                                Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                                Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                                Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

                                Jimmy Graham + Aaron Rogers could be approaching Gronk levels of greatness. The Packers also sign Mo Wilkerson who although coming off a couple of down years has pro-bowl upside so could add some nasty to the Packers defence. The Packers hardly ever make big move in free-agencies, but when they do they look about as good as any team when they do.

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                                  @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                                  Things are getting interesting.

                                  Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                                  Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                                  Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

                                  Jimmy Graham + Aaron Rogers could be approaching Gronk levels of greatness. The Packers also sign Mo Wilkerson who although coming off a couple of down years has pro-bowl upside so could add some nasty to the Packers defence. The Packers hardly ever make big move in free-agencies, but when they do they look about as good as any team when they do.

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                                  @cyclops Rodgers must be pinching herself that for once he's got real help

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                                    Arizona better sign a good backup QB because they'll be playing more than Sam Bradford next season....

                                    With all the QB moves it's obvious the Bills are all in on trading their way into the top 5 of the draft. The Colts look like they might be willing to listen to an offers and I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants also listen to offers from the Bills, Cards and Jets.

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      Things are getting interesting.

                                      Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                                      Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                                      Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

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                                      @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                                      Things are getting interesting.

                                      Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                                      Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                                      Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

                                      Dion Lewis to the Titans as well.
                                      Will be interesting to see what will happen to the Patriots.
                                      It will be interesting to see if the Pats will pick up Jordy, a white WR will do Brady just fine.

                                      Rumours are Teddy Bridgewater is moving to the Jets.

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                                        @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                                        Things are getting interesting.

                                        Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                                        Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                                        Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

                                        Dion Lewis to the Titans as well.
                                        Will be interesting to see what will happen to the Patriots.
                                        It will be interesting to see if the Pats will pick up Jordy, a white WR will do Brady just fine.

                                        Rumours are Teddy Bridgewater is moving to the Jets.

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                                        @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                        @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                                        Things are getting interesting.

                                        Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                                        Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                                        Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

                                        Dion Lewis to the Titans as well.
                                        Will be interesting to see what will happen to the Patriots.
                                        It will be interesting to see if the Pats will pick up Jordy, a white WR will do Brady just fine.

                                        Rumours are Teddy Bridgewater is moving to the Jets.

                                        Bridgewater is heading to the Jets and his deal is apparently 5 mill, with a heap of incentives. If true that is an incredible deal given the massive upside Bridgewater has. I know he needs to get on the field (and doing so will see the incentives kick in) but it means that the jets are getting mccown + Bridgwater for the same price as the bears paid for Mike Glennon and a major discount on what the Cardinals are paying for Bradford. Be interesting to see what McCarron ends up getting.

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                                          @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                          @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                                          Things are getting interesting.

                                          Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                                          Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                                          Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

                                          Dion Lewis to the Titans as well.
                                          Will be interesting to see what will happen to the Patriots.
                                          It will be interesting to see if the Pats will pick up Jordy, a white WR will do Brady just fine.

                                          Rumours are Teddy Bridgewater is moving to the Jets.

                                          Bridgewater is heading to the Jets and his deal is apparently 5 mill, with a heap of incentives. If true that is an incredible deal given the massive upside Bridgewater has. I know he needs to get on the field (and doing so will see the incentives kick in) but it means that the jets are getting mccown + Bridgwater for the same price as the bears paid for Mike Glennon and a major discount on what the Cardinals are paying for Bradford. Be interesting to see what McCarron ends up getting.

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                                          @cyclops AJ McCarron signs to be the Bills starting QB for $10 million over two years with $6.5 million available in incentives. Not a bad deal for the Bills and it gives them time to ready the QB they pick in the upcoming draft.

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