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@crucial IIRC, it's just the groove that's the same, and not the melody. That opens a real can of worms ... There's a lot of people who took the beat and bassline from You Can't Hurry Love by The Supremes. e.g. The Jam.
Hollywood Steve did a good podcast episode on it:
https://rss.art19.com/episodes/abb50df4-b3a8-455e-ab96-e623c3f0fe97.mp3
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@tim I get that. Play them side by side and they are different songs. I think the issue is that MGs song had a quite unique groove that was 'copied' without credit. Certainly don't understand how you could rule in favour of the estate based on the judge's criteria (and that the judge's criteria is straight out bullshit).
GTGIU was certainly the inspiration and influence behind the song though and I guess when you do that you run a risk that someone is going to ask for their share. Obviously it is the amount of money that BL earned that prompted the lawsuit. I don't like the implications but also think that if you are going to copy parts of someone's work it doesn't hurt to check with them first. In this case it is hard to see how you would feel you need to do that though.
Really interesting argument over whether someone 'owns' a bassline or riff though. You mentioned the Jam and their use in numerous songs of The Beatle's 'Taxman' bassline (as a baseline and a riff) is well known. It was taken as flattery rather than a monetary ripoff though.
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@crucial Well, hopefully there'll be a successful appeal. Would hate to think that re-using song and genre style elements was shut down. There'd be a lot less Led Zep songs etc if that was the case back then.
ps. A Town Called Malice was the Supremes comparison I was going for.
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@tim said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crucial Well, hopefully there'll be a successful appeal. Would hate to think that re-using song and genre style elements was shut down. There'd be a lot less Led Zep songs etc if that was the case back then.
ps. A Town Called Malice was the Supremes comparison I was going for.
Yeah, realised that. Bruce added one extra note into James Jamerson's brilliant line.
Wouldn't like to think of Berry Gordy collecting of something he paid a couple of bucks an hour for though.
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@tim said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crucial Well, hopefully there'll be a successful appeal. Would hate to think that re-using song and genre style elements was shut down. There'd be a lot less Led Zep songs etc if that was the case back then.
ps. A Town Called Malice was the Supremes comparison I was going for.
Stairway to Heaven for starters. They even toured with these guys before Stairway was released, and the opening sequence sounds so similar it's freaky. Someone is copying someone, I don't know how much needs to be similar to be considered plagiarism
Led Zeppelin Win in ‘Stairway to Heaven’ Trial
Led Zeppelin have won a lawsuit that alleged that they had plagiarized the music to "Stairway to Heaven" from Spirit's instrumental "Taurus."
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12017780
This is a crock of shit. The two songs are totally different, clearly the two judges that sided with the Gaye estate were deaf or just didn't listen to the music.
As for the videao, no need to thank me
A douche song sung by an even bigger douche (with another douche chipping in)
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Ferals be feralling
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12018198
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Ferals be feralling
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12018198
The original Judge who sentenced him should be sharing a cell with the piece of shit.
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@virgil How the fuck did that sack of shit get home detention?
On a side note, it seriously fucks me off when I see sentence discounts given for 'remorse'. Anyone can turn on the tears after the fact, and if they know it's probably going to reduce the sentence...ARGH. Bullshit.
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@virgil said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Ferals be feralling
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12018198
The original Judge who sentenced him should be sharing a cell with the piece of shit.
I'm thrilled he'll be getting extra protection in prison from all the hard fluffybunnies who bash kiddy fiddlers and abusers.
It's about time my taxpaying dollars went to a worthwhile cause. I'm stoked.
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Who wants to vomit in their breakfast..
Broadcasting Royalty?!?
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@virgil said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Who wants to vomit in their breakfast..
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Oh Hils you are sooo badass
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@virgil said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Who wants to vomit in their breakfast..
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Wait, people actually watch seven sharp?
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@mokey not to mention Judges state home detention is harder for some than going to prison...
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@mokey not to mention Judges state home detention is harder for some than going to prison...
You think it’s easy when you run out of Woodstock’s during a mean Xbox session and the mrs is at work so you can’t get any more?
Shame on you , you cold hearted bastard .
