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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @nzzp said in Super Rugby News:

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    Bulls prop Conraad van Vuuren has been suspended for 3 weeks. Will post the decision as soon as it's online.

    Good. Watched the second half at the weekend, and it was good fun. But holy moly, that hit was late, high and filthy. DMac caught a glancing blow as he fell under it... I don't know where the TMO came up with a Yellow. Modern game that's red all day.

    TMO convinced the ref there was no head contact. Ref must be fucked off, getting a black mark for believing his TMO and being made to look a fool by saying, he missed.

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    @crucial said in Super Rugby News:

    @nzzp said in Super Rugby News:

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    Bulls prop Conraad van Vuuren has been suspended for 3 weeks. Will post the decision as soon as it's online.

    Good. Watched the second half at the weekend, and it was good fun. But holy moly, that hit was late, high and filthy. DMac caught a glancing blow as he fell under it... I don't know where the TMO came up with a Yellow. Modern game that's red all day.

    TMO convinced the ref there was no head contact. Ref must be fucked off, getting a black mark for believing his TMO and being made to look a fool by saying, he missed.

    From memory that is not what the TMO said. The TMO told to the ref to watch how McKenzie was falling, not where the contact was. The ref watching it again then concluded that contact had not been made.

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      Players have moved about long before professionalism, think it is probably noticed more now?

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/102386064/money-ball-have-boots-will-travel--super-rugby-has-prompted-player-wanderlust

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        #3205

        There were no player academies and university scholarships in the amateur era so players only tended to move away for work and study (think of all the Hawke's Bay players that ended up at Otago in the 1980s and 1990s).

        That is why I am always interested in the representation in the NZ Schools teams because a lot have moved to other provinces when their name next appears at U19s etc.

        And as mentioned in the comments, Read would be playing for the Chiefs not the Blues. Kaino would too if he wasn't poached (another part of this issue).

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          There were no player academies and university scholarships in the amateur era so players only tended to move away for work and study (think of all the Hawke's Bay players that ended up at Otago in the 1980s and 1990s).

          That is why I am always interested in the representation in the NZ Schools teams because a lot have moved to other provinces when their name next appears at U19s etc.

          And as mentioned in the comments, Read would be playing for the Chiefs not the Blues. Kaino would too if he wasn't poached (another part of this issue).

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          @bovidae the 1999 Counties under 16 team was a strong team with John Afoa, Jerome Kaino Joe Rokocoko and Stephen Donald. Donald went to Wesley, the three others went to Auckland.

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            Rebels gave the Sharks a dusting 40 something to 20 something

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              Rebels gave the Sharks a dusting 40 something to 20 something

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              @taniwharugby 46 - 14

              It will be interesting to find out whether the Rebels, and Aussie SR teams in general, have really improved since they pulled the Western Force. Only next week will we see the first game between a NZ team (Canes) and an Aussie team (Rebels), and that's in Melbourne. We have to wait until 14 April until an Aussie team plays on NZ soil (Highlanders v Brumbies). The Rebels' first game in NZ will be against the Blues on Saturday, 2 June. I wonder whether they've made the draw like this on purpose?

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                Rebels Shipperley calls time on career

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                  FANS: Super rugby is too watered down, please drop two SR teams from the comp South Africa to shore up the quality in the remaining sides.

                  SARU: Cheetahs, Kings, go earn us money up north.

                  So what you are seeing is last year's (Dross) quality SR sides from SA in an otherwise more concentrated tournament.

                  /2c

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @taniwharugby 46 - 14

                    It will be interesting to find out whether the Rebels, and Aussie SR teams in general, have really improved since they pulled the Western Force. Only next week will we see the first game between a NZ team (Canes) and an Aussie team (Rebels), and that's in Melbourne. We have to wait until 14 April until an Aussie team plays on NZ soil (Highlanders v Brumbies). The Rebels' first game in NZ will be against the Blues on Saturday, 2 June. I wonder whether they've made the draw like this on purpose?

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                    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                    @taniwharugby 46 - 14

                    It will be interesting to find out whether the Rebels, and Aussie SR teams in general, have really improved since they pulled the Western Force. Only next week will we see the first game between a NZ team (Canes) and an Aussie team (Rebels), and that's in Melbourne. We have to wait until 14 April until an Aussie team plays on NZ soil (Highlanders v Brumbies). The Rebels' first game in NZ will be against the Blues on Saturday, 2 June. I wonder whether they've made the draw like this on purpose?

                    I think the Rebels will give the Hurricanes a run for their money next week. Phipps via Fox Sports this week was suggesting the draw is better this year with the Aussie teams not playing any NZ teams in the opening few weeks and allowing them to get their structures going before hitting a NZ side.

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                    • UniteU Unite

                      @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                      @taniwharugby 46 - 14

                      It will be interesting to find out whether the Rebels, and Aussie SR teams in general, have really improved since they pulled the Western Force. Only next week will we see the first game between a NZ team (Canes) and an Aussie team (Rebels), and that's in Melbourne. We have to wait until 14 April until an Aussie team plays on NZ soil (Highlanders v Brumbies). The Rebels' first game in NZ will be against the Blues on Saturday, 2 June. I wonder whether they've made the draw like this on purpose?

                      I think the Rebels will give the Hurricanes a run for their money next week. Phipps via Fox Sports this week was suggesting the draw is better this year with the Aussie teams not playing any NZ teams in the opening few weeks and allowing them to get their structures going before hitting a NZ side.

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                      @unite said in Super Rugby News:

                      @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                      @taniwharugby 46 - 14

                      It will be interesting to find out whether the Rebels, and Aussie SR teams in general, have really improved since they pulled the Western Force. Only next week will we see the first game between a NZ team (Canes) and an Aussie team (Rebels), and that's in Melbourne. We have to wait until 14 April until an Aussie team plays on NZ soil (Highlanders v Brumbies). The Rebels' first game in NZ will be against the Blues on Saturday, 2 June. I wonder whether they've made the draw like this on purpose?

                      I think the Rebels will give the Hurricanes a run for their money next week. Phipps via Fox Sports this week was suggesting the draw is better this year with the Aussie teams not playing any NZ teams in the opening few weeks and allowing them to get their structures going before hitting a NZ side.

                      Sound reasoning from Phipps, I'm sure that the NZ sides won't have exactly the same opportunity...

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                        Season over for the Blues - Scrafton out for the season with an ACL tear, and SBW out for six to eight weeks with a broken wrist.

                        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12019579

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Season over for the Blues - Scrafton out for the season with an ACL tear, and SBW out for six to eight weeks with a broken wrist.

                          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12019579

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                          @tim

                          The time-frame for Williams will probably see him enter the All Blacks' three-test June series against France on minimal game-time.
                          

                          IMO, the ABs should just go with another 12 -13 combo. SBW wasn't great for the ABs last year, and hasn't impressed for the Blues so far this season.

                          Crotty-ALB
                          Crotty-Goodhue
                          If Crotty can't play, Laumape-ALB or Laumape-Goodhue

                          For the Blues, both injuries are definitely bad news. Time for TJ Faiane to step up, I guess.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @tim

                            The time-frame for Williams will probably see him enter the All Blacks' three-test June series against France on minimal game-time.
                            

                            IMO, the ABs should just go with another 12 -13 combo. SBW wasn't great for the ABs last year, and hasn't impressed for the Blues so far this season.

                            Crotty-ALB
                            Crotty-Goodhue
                            If Crotty can't play, Laumape-ALB or Laumape-Goodhue

                            For the Blues, both injuries are definitely bad news. Time for TJ Faiane to step up, I guess.

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                            @stargazer or Rob Thomas time.

                            Faiane looks nothing special at Super level.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @stargazer or Rob Thomas time.

                              Faiane looks nothing special at Super level.

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                              @kiwimurph Do the Blues have more 2nd-fives to take over from SBW? Thomas can only dream of an AB jersey.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @stargazer or Rob Thomas time.

                                Faiane looks nothing special at Super level.

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                                @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

                                @stargazer or Rob Thomas time.

                                Faiane looks nothing special at Super level.

                                I wouldn't give up on Faiane. He keeps getting paired up with Moala who doesn't fit his style of play. Also had to play with a deep standing Gatland against the Chiefs.

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                                  Leger might get a chance. Not a bad player, but his error rate is bit high

                                  Collins to 12 would be my pick

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                                    Tana will probably pick Moala at 12...

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      Leger might get a chance. Not a bad player, but his error rate is bit high

                                      Collins to 12 would be my pick

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                                      #3220

                                      @duluth said in Super Rugby News:

                                      Leger might get a chance. Not a bad player, but his error rate is bit high

                                      Collins to 12 would be my pick

                                      It'll be Moala. Tana would've got reeled back in after he made two passes against the Stormers.

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                                        They have also lost grafting lock Scott Scrafton for the remainder of the season with a serious knee injury, to both his ACL and LCL.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/102564201/sonny-bill-williams-out-for-six-weeks-with-fractured-wrist

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                                          That's rough for Scrafton, it hasn't been long since he recovered from a shoulder injury that kept him out of most of the Mitre 10 Cup. He'll likely miss all of the Mitre 10 Cup this year as well.

                                          Time for the best Goodhue to step up.

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