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    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    @taniwharugby 46 - 14

    It will be interesting to find out whether the Rebels, and Aussie SR teams in general, have really improved since they pulled the Western Force. Only next week will we see the first game between a NZ team (Canes) and an Aussie team (Rebels), and that's in Melbourne. We have to wait until 14 April until an Aussie team plays on NZ soil (Highlanders v Brumbies). The Rebels' first game in NZ will be against the Blues on Saturday, 2 June. I wonder whether they've made the draw like this on purpose?

    I think the Rebels will give the Hurricanes a run for their money next week. Phipps via Fox Sports this week was suggesting the draw is better this year with the Aussie teams not playing any NZ teams in the opening few weeks and allowing them to get their structures going before hitting a NZ side.

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    @unite said in Super Rugby News:

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    @taniwharugby 46 - 14

    It will be interesting to find out whether the Rebels, and Aussie SR teams in general, have really improved since they pulled the Western Force. Only next week will we see the first game between a NZ team (Canes) and an Aussie team (Rebels), and that's in Melbourne. We have to wait until 14 April until an Aussie team plays on NZ soil (Highlanders v Brumbies). The Rebels' first game in NZ will be against the Blues on Saturday, 2 June. I wonder whether they've made the draw like this on purpose?

    I think the Rebels will give the Hurricanes a run for their money next week. Phipps via Fox Sports this week was suggesting the draw is better this year with the Aussie teams not playing any NZ teams in the opening few weeks and allowing them to get their structures going before hitting a NZ side.

    Sound reasoning from Phipps, I'm sure that the NZ sides won't have exactly the same opportunity...

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      Season over for the Blues - Scrafton out for the season with an ACL tear, and SBW out for six to eight weeks with a broken wrist.

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12019579

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        Season over for the Blues - Scrafton out for the season with an ACL tear, and SBW out for six to eight weeks with a broken wrist.

        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12019579

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        @tim

        The time-frame for Williams will probably see him enter the All Blacks' three-test June series against France on minimal game-time.
        

        IMO, the ABs should just go with another 12 -13 combo. SBW wasn't great for the ABs last year, and hasn't impressed for the Blues so far this season.

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        If Crotty can't play, Laumape-ALB or Laumape-Goodhue

        For the Blues, both injuries are definitely bad news. Time for TJ Faiane to step up, I guess.

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          @tim

          The time-frame for Williams will probably see him enter the All Blacks' three-test June series against France on minimal game-time.
          

          IMO, the ABs should just go with another 12 -13 combo. SBW wasn't great for the ABs last year, and hasn't impressed for the Blues so far this season.

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          If Crotty can't play, Laumape-ALB or Laumape-Goodhue

          For the Blues, both injuries are definitely bad news. Time for TJ Faiane to step up, I guess.

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          @stargazer or Rob Thomas time.

          Faiane looks nothing special at Super level.

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            @stargazer or Rob Thomas time.

            Faiane looks nothing special at Super level.

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            @kiwimurph Do the Blues have more 2nd-fives to take over from SBW? Thomas can only dream of an AB jersey.

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              @stargazer or Rob Thomas time.

              Faiane looks nothing special at Super level.

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              @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

              @stargazer or Rob Thomas time.

              Faiane looks nothing special at Super level.

              I wouldn't give up on Faiane. He keeps getting paired up with Moala who doesn't fit his style of play. Also had to play with a deep standing Gatland against the Chiefs.

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                Leger might get a chance. Not a bad player, but his error rate is bit high

                Collins to 12 would be my pick

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                  Tana will probably pick Moala at 12...

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                    Leger might get a chance. Not a bad player, but his error rate is bit high

                    Collins to 12 would be my pick

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                    @duluth said in Super Rugby News:

                    Leger might get a chance. Not a bad player, but his error rate is bit high

                    Collins to 12 would be my pick

                    It'll be Moala. Tana would've got reeled back in after he made two passes against the Stormers.

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                      They have also lost grafting lock Scott Scrafton for the remainder of the season with a serious knee injury, to both his ACL and LCL.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/102564201/sonny-bill-williams-out-for-six-weeks-with-fractured-wrist

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                        That's rough for Scrafton, it hasn't been long since he recovered from a shoulder injury that kept him out of most of the Mitre 10 Cup. He'll likely miss all of the Mitre 10 Cup this year as well.

                        Time for the best Goodhue to step up.

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                            Interesting result: the Jaguares have beaten the Lions 49 - 35. Haven't seen the game, because Sky had the wrong kick-off time in their tv guide, but it really seems that the Lions are weaker than last year.

                            The Lions and the Jaguares are the Crusaders' next two opponents.

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                              Interesting result: the Jaguares have beaten the Lions 49 - 35. Haven't seen the game, because Sky had the wrong kick-off time in their tv guide, but it really seems that the Lions are weaker than last year.

                              The Lions and the Jaguares are the Crusaders' next two opponents.

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                              @stargazer I picked the result, just not by that margin, in fact, the only margin I got close this week was the Crusaders - BUlls, I was 2 points out, rest have been way out.

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                                I'm watching Jaguares v Lions right now. I already noticed it the past few weeks; Boffelli is a seriously good winger.

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                                  Conclusion after watching the game: the Lions indeed aren't as good as last year. Malcolm Marx is a great player and the Lions driving maul is still working reasonably well because of him (although the Jaguares also don't know how to defend against one); their scrum was okay; but they didn't know how to create opportunities other than a driving maul. If they get a penalty, they'll kick it into the corner for a line-out drive. That's basically their game; not much creativity. They look slow.

                                  The Jaguares' discipline was good, so they weren't giving away easy points. They showed patience and that paid off. They created and took their opportunities. Their scrum isn't up to scratch though, and their defence is as leaky as that of the Lions.

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                                    Reds prop Taniela Tupou cited. I haven't seen any other reports of citings.

                                    Tupou is alleged to have contravened Law 9.13 A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously after collecting Stormers wing Craig Barry above the shoulders without using his arms.
                                    
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                                      And .... there is at least one other citing:

                                      Sharks flanker Jacques Vermeulen has been cited for alleged foul play during the Sharks' Super Rugby match against the Rebels in Melbourne. Vermeulen is alleged to have contravened Law 9.20 A player must not charge into a ruck.

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                                        Sounds like Ardie Savea is OK:

                                        They lost flanker Ardie Savea to a first-half rib injury, while centre Matt Proctor's sternum was iced up after the game.

                                        "He's got a bit of a tender rib or two. I don't think there's any cracks or breaks there, but he's a bit sore," Hurricanes coach Chris Boyd said of Savea.

                                        Proctor was described as sore too, ahead of Friday's trip to meet the Rebels in Melbourne.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/102564003/clinical-hurricanes-content-to-keep-accumulating-competition-points

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                                          Conclusion after watching the game: the Lions indeed aren't as good as last year. Malcolm Marx is a great player and the Lions driving maul is still working reasonably well because of him (although the Jaguares also don't know how to defend against one); their scrum was okay; but they didn't know how to create opportunities other than a driving maul. If they get a penalty, they'll kick it into the corner for a line-out drive. That's basically their game; not much creativity. They look slow.

                                          The Jaguares' discipline was good, so they weren't giving away easy points. They showed patience and that paid off. They created and took their opportunities. Their scrum isn't up to scratch though, and their defence is as leaky as that of the Lions.

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                                          @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                          Conclusion after watching the game: the Lions indeed aren't as good as last year.

                                          It is amazing what impact coaching can have....

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