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Blues 2018

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @nzzp said in Blues 2018:

    Gatland would bring:

    • Credibility
    • Standards
    • Coaching nous
    • Discipline

    What's not to like?

    Edit: Also, i suspect he doesn't jump into burning dumpsters like the Blues though...

    Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?

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    @nepia said in Blues 2018:

    Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?

    On a related point..

    How many friends does Gatland have at the NZRU? How many does Umaga have? I suspect thats more important than pesky rugby reasons

    Personally I would much rather have a competent disliked coach.

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @nepia said in Blues 2018:

      Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?

      On a related point..

      How many friends does Gatland have at the NZRU? How many does Umaga have? I suspect thats more important than pesky rugby reasons

      Personally I would much rather have a competent disliked coach.

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      Nepia
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      @duluth said in Blues 2018:

      @nepia said in Blues 2018:

      Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?

      On a related point..

      How many friends does Gatland have at the NZRU? How many does Umaga have? I suspect thats more important than pesky rugby reasons

      Personally I would much rather have a competent disliked coach.

      Who did you want, that would have applied, when Umaga was appointed?

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @duluth said in Blues 2018:

        @nepia said in Blues 2018:

        Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?

        On a related point..

        How many friends does Gatland have at the NZRU? How many does Umaga have? I suspect thats more important than pesky rugby reasons

        Personally I would much rather have a competent disliked coach.

        Who did you want, that would have applied, when Umaga was appointed?

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        @nepia

        Pivac

        But I was happy to judge Umaga after three years

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @nepia

          Pivac

          But I was happy to judge Umaga after three years

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          Nepia
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          @duluth said in Blues 2018:

          @nepia

          Pivac

          But I was happy to judge Umaga after three years

          Did Pivac apply, I can't remember that far back. Weird that he's never had a shot at the Blues though.

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            Bovidae
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            Yes, the coaching appointments can be political. I've heard a few stories about coaches missing out on positions based on the word of other connected coaches.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @duluth said in Blues 2018:

              @nepia

              Pivac

              But I was happy to judge Umaga after three years

              Did Pivac apply, I can't remember that far back. Weird that he's never had a shot at the Blues though.

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              @nepia said in Blues 2018:

              Did Pivac apply, I can't remember that far back. Weird that he's never had a shot at the Blues though.

              Was it advertised? I can't remember.. I think the board gave up on Matson/Kirwan when Umaga was interested

              Pivac applied a lot though. He doesn't have the right friends.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @nepia said in Blues 2018:

                Did Pivac apply, I can't remember that far back. Weird that he's never had a shot at the Blues though.

                Was it advertised? I can't remember.. I think the board gave up on Matson/Kirwan when Umaga was interested

                Pivac applied a lot though. He doesn't have the right friends.

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                African Monkey
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                @duluth It was always a mystery as to why Pivac never got an opportunity. Sums up our organisation when far inferior appointments have been made.

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                  Sigh. Scanned twitter to see if Tana had quit.

                  Nope.

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                    Sorry, I was unclear. I don't want Gatland for the ABs.

                    The Blues would be mental to not take him.

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                      Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.

                      You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.

                      He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!

                      On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.

                        You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.

                        He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!

                        On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.

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                        @chris-b said in Blues 2018:

                        Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.

                        You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.

                        He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!

                        On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.

                        Sound like Henry. Maybe we need another headmaster type.

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          @chris-b said in Blues 2018:

                          Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.

                          You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.

                          He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!

                          On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.

                          Sound like Henry. Maybe we need another headmaster type.

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                          Chris B.
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                          @kirwan

                          Similar type - pretty grumpy, but apparently a mentor of Wayne Smith in his early days.

                          Would be a change from celebrity coaches.... 🙂

                          Here's an article that lays out his "manifesto".

                          http://www.mako.nz/news/Mako$-stint-highlight-of-coach-keanes-career-so-far

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                            https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/993749026985000960

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                                KiwiMurph
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                                I wonder if Rieko has been given an exemption to the 2 week rest/stand down for ABs prior to the June series given the Blues fortunes/injury issues?

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12051851

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                                  Machpants
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                                  Nope I dint reckon blues just playing him for as long as they can. Chiefs have same amount of injuries and are still sending guys home from tour

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                                    Nope I dint reckon blues just playing him for as long as they can. Chiefs have same amount of injuries and are still sending guys home from tour

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                                    KiwiMurph
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                                    @machpants Not the same thing. Chiefs are sending their players home because there is one of these AB camps this weekend (I think this Chiefs-Sharks game is one of the only Super games that clashes with an AB camp - with the other camps/teams I think its about players missing Super training not Super games).

                                    I'm talking about the 2 games period that the ABs need to have - there's conflicting information on which ABs this applies to and whether this is before the June French series or can be done after.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @machpants Not the same thing. Chiefs are sending their players home because there is one of these AB camps this weekend (I think this Chiefs-Sharks game is one of the only Super games that clashes with an AB camp - with the other camps/teams I think its about players missing Super training not Super games).

                                      I'm talking about the 2 games period that the ABs need to have - there's conflicting information on which ABs this applies to and whether this is before the June French series or can be done after.

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                                      taniwharugby
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                                      @kiwimurph maybe the Blues have played him out of form he won't be selected so will get his rest then 🤣

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                                        Stargazer
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                                        https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/996267214188658689

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @machpants Not the same thing. Chiefs are sending their players home because there is one of these AB camps this weekend (I think this Chiefs-Sharks game is one of the only Super games that clashes with an AB camp - with the other camps/teams I think its about players missing Super training not Super games).

                                          I'm talking about the 2 games period that the ABs need to have - there's conflicting information on which ABs this applies to and whether this is before the June French series or can be done after.

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                                          Machpants
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                                          @kiwimurph Yeah I realise that but everything coming out of the ABs camp is that all ABs from last year must get two days off before French tests. It would be weird for the ABs to break that for someone who is playing every minute. Maybe they would be flexible if he was getting some bench time or early finish in a game. But the blues are thrashing the Ioanes, Akira isn't an AB so not covered, but Reiko? I reckon he'll end up with the last two games off. Even Ben Sabbatical Smith appears to be under the same ruling.

                                          Then again they might just say 'he's young, go with it!' and I'll be totally wrong

                                          Again.

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