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Blues 2018

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    Yes, the coaching appointments can be political. I've heard a few stories about coaches missing out on positions based on the word of other connected coaches.

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      @duluth said in Blues 2018:

      @nepia

      Pivac

      But I was happy to judge Umaga after three years

      Did Pivac apply, I can't remember that far back. Weird that he's never had a shot at the Blues though.

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      @nepia said in Blues 2018:

      Did Pivac apply, I can't remember that far back. Weird that he's never had a shot at the Blues though.

      Was it advertised? I can't remember.. I think the board gave up on Matson/Kirwan when Umaga was interested

      Pivac applied a lot though. He doesn't have the right friends.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @nepia said in Blues 2018:

        Did Pivac apply, I can't remember that far back. Weird that he's never had a shot at the Blues though.

        Was it advertised? I can't remember.. I think the board gave up on Matson/Kirwan when Umaga was interested

        Pivac applied a lot though. He doesn't have the right friends.

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        @duluth It was always a mystery as to why Pivac never got an opportunity. Sums up our organisation when far inferior appointments have been made.

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          Sigh. Scanned twitter to see if Tana had quit.

          Nope.

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          • Chester DrawsC Offline
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            Sorry, I was unclear. I don't want Gatland for the ABs.

            The Blues would be mental to not take him.

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            • Chris B.C Offline
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              #618

              Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.

              You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.

              He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!

              On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.

                You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.

                He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!

                On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.

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                @chris-b said in Blues 2018:

                Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.

                You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.

                He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!

                On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.

                Sound like Henry. Maybe we need another headmaster type.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @chris-b said in Blues 2018:

                  Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.

                  You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.

                  He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!

                  On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.

                  Sound like Henry. Maybe we need another headmaster type.

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                  #620

                  @kirwan

                  Similar type - pretty grumpy, but apparently a mentor of Wayne Smith in his early days.

                  Would be a change from celebrity coaches.... 🙂

                  Here's an article that lays out his "manifesto".

                  http://www.mako.nz/news/Mako$-stint-highlight-of-coach-keanes-career-so-far

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                    https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/993749026985000960

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                        I wonder if Rieko has been given an exemption to the 2 week rest/stand down for ABs prior to the June series given the Blues fortunes/injury issues?

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12051851

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                          Nope I dint reckon blues just playing him for as long as they can. Chiefs have same amount of injuries and are still sending guys home from tour

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                            Nope I dint reckon blues just playing him for as long as they can. Chiefs have same amount of injuries and are still sending guys home from tour

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                            @machpants Not the same thing. Chiefs are sending their players home because there is one of these AB camps this weekend (I think this Chiefs-Sharks game is one of the only Super games that clashes with an AB camp - with the other camps/teams I think its about players missing Super training not Super games).

                            I'm talking about the 2 games period that the ABs need to have - there's conflicting information on which ABs this applies to and whether this is before the June French series or can be done after.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @machpants Not the same thing. Chiefs are sending their players home because there is one of these AB camps this weekend (I think this Chiefs-Sharks game is one of the only Super games that clashes with an AB camp - with the other camps/teams I think its about players missing Super training not Super games).

                              I'm talking about the 2 games period that the ABs need to have - there's conflicting information on which ABs this applies to and whether this is before the June French series or can be done after.

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                              @kiwimurph maybe the Blues have played him out of form he won't be selected so will get his rest then 🤣

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                                https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/996267214188658689

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @machpants Not the same thing. Chiefs are sending their players home because there is one of these AB camps this weekend (I think this Chiefs-Sharks game is one of the only Super games that clashes with an AB camp - with the other camps/teams I think its about players missing Super training not Super games).

                                  I'm talking about the 2 games period that the ABs need to have - there's conflicting information on which ABs this applies to and whether this is before the June French series or can be done after.

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                                  @kiwimurph Yeah I realise that but everything coming out of the ABs camp is that all ABs from last year must get two days off before French tests. It would be weird for the ABs to break that for someone who is playing every minute. Maybe they would be flexible if he was getting some bench time or early finish in a game. But the blues are thrashing the Ioanes, Akira isn't an AB so not covered, but Reiko? I reckon he'll end up with the last two games off. Even Ben Sabbatical Smith appears to be under the same ruling.

                                  Then again they might just say 'he's young, go with it!' and I'll be totally wrong

                                  Again.

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    @kiwimurph Yeah I realise that but everything coming out of the ABs camp is that all ABs from last year must get two days off before French tests. It would be weird for the ABs to break that for someone who is playing every minute. Maybe they would be flexible if he was getting some bench time or early finish in a game. But the blues are thrashing the Ioanes, Akira isn't an AB so not covered, but Reiko? I reckon he'll end up with the last two games off. Even Ben Sabbatical Smith appears to be under the same ruling.

                                    Then again they might just say 'he's young, go with it!' and I'll be totally wrong

                                    Again.

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                                    @machpants The thing is the Blues only have 2 games left before the June French series. It doesn't sound like he is going to be rested this week so that just leaves 1 game at max he will miss prior to June (not 2). There is a bye in there for the Blues too so that would give him 2 weeks off but only 1 game. Guess we will wait and see.

                                    Good news re: Blake and Alex Hodgman re-signing. Blake is obviously very close to returning but Hodgman broke his arm in I think the the 3rd game so you would think he might not be too far off returning either?

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @machpants The thing is the Blues only have 2 games left before the June French series. It doesn't sound like he is going to be rested this week so that just leaves 1 game at max he will miss prior to June (not 2). There is a bye in there for the Blues too so that would give him 2 weeks off but only 1 game. Guess we will wait and see.

                                      Good news re: Blake and Alex Hodgman re-signing. Blake is obviously very close to returning but Hodgman broke his arm in I think the the 3rd game so you would think he might not be too far off returning either?

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                                      @kiwimurph I'd guess Tana has got him an exemption on the grounds that he's going to get weeks off in the play-offs.

                                      It would be counterproductive for him to not play another game of rugby now until the French tests.

                                      Not very fair on the other franchises, though - so I don't mind if anyone wants to take a swipe at Tana for mismanagement over this. 🙂

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                                        @tim said in Blues 2018:

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                                        New Zealand rugby player of the year!

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @machpants The thing is the Blues only have 2 games left before the June French series. It doesn't sound like he is going to be rested this week so that just leaves 1 game at max he will miss prior to June (not 2). There is a bye in there for the Blues too so that would give him 2 weeks off but only 1 game. Guess we will wait and see.

                                          Good news re: Blake and Alex Hodgman re-signing. Blake is obviously very close to returning but Hodgman broke his arm in I think the the 3rd game so you would think he might not be too far off returning either?

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                                          Tim
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                                          @kiwimurph said in Blues 2018:

                                          Hodgman

                                          Still wearing a cast:

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