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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I had to pop into the shops today and went through the toy section with my kids. The Star Wars area looked pretty ordinary when considering a new film is coming soon. What was unsurprising was the row of unsold Roses. Reminded me how farking lame the new characters were. Empire gave us Boba, Lando and Yoda. What did this abortion give us? Rose, Hondo and that locksmith gimp. Oh yeah and those stupid little creatures and white fox things. That is really shit. Beyond pitiful.
The new characters are varying degrees of shit.
The much maligned prequels on the other hand gave us Darth Maul, Qui Gonn, Mace Windu, Jango Fett, Count Dooku and General Grievous.
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@catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
So I've just sat and watched this with Ms Cato No1. This was an important issue for her as she is very close to giving up on Star Wars. She hated TFA and was not even luke-warm on Rogue One. This was the last chance saloon as far as she was concerned. However TLJ offered enough in her opinion to save Star Wars and she is now prepared to wait in anticipation for the next round (Not including Solo). Like daughter No1 I was quite happy with it on the whole and found the fleshing out of Rey and Kylo interesting and I liked that it was a bit darker, sort of in the vein as ESB in that respect.
I thought it was a shame that Snoke wasn't given enough of a story and also sorry to see the Admiral get his. Who's going to recognise any traps now? And the fact the code-breaker turned out to be a wrong 'un. I thought his character had something going for it.
Things that bugged me:-
Leia's Mary Poppins moment. Have I missed somewhere along the line that she knew she had powerful force abilities or did she just think "Fuck it, I'll give it a go"? Plus it was just a bit crap.Rose and Po both surviving not only a major crash but also a real slog back to friendly lines whilst injured - as has been alluded to earlier.
The crystal critters. Why? Just why? I understand they need something to show them all the escape route and to allow Rey to move the stones, but those things were just shite. And so were those stupid little birds.
The casino scene, in fact most of what went on on that planet seemed to be a giant waste of time and effort.
However, overall better than quite a few of the series.
With due respect Cato and I say this as someone who likes and admires you:
Get a fooking pair of glasses.
TLJ is an abortion of a film. Easily the worst of the Franchise and possibly the beginning of the end of Star Wars as the blue chip brand it has always been.
Well thank you. I think.
I was half expecting to come away with your view of TLJ after reading some of the "reviews" on here but I thought after watching it that the good outweighed the bad. Preferred it to TFA probably because it didn't have another bloody death star.
Yeah, I watched again the other day and on balance it is OK. I don't mind the overall direction of the story but it could have been done much better with a step back and big edit.
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@crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
So I've just sat and watched this with Ms Cato No1. This was an important issue for her as she is very close to giving up on Star Wars. She hated TFA and was not even luke-warm on Rogue One. This was the last chance saloon as far as she was concerned. However TLJ offered enough in her opinion to save Star Wars and she is now prepared to wait in anticipation for the next round (Not including Solo). Like daughter No1 I was quite happy with it on the whole and found the fleshing out of Rey and Kylo interesting and I liked that it was a bit darker, sort of in the vein as ESB in that respect.
I thought it was a shame that Snoke wasn't given enough of a story and also sorry to see the Admiral get his. Who's going to recognise any traps now? And the fact the code-breaker turned out to be a wrong 'un. I thought his character had something going for it.
Things that bugged me:-
Leia's Mary Poppins moment. Have I missed somewhere along the line that she knew she had powerful force abilities or did she just think "Fuck it, I'll give it a go"? Plus it was just a bit crap.Rose and Po both surviving not only a major crash but also a real slog back to friendly lines whilst injured - as has been alluded to earlier.
The crystal critters. Why? Just why? I understand they need something to show them all the escape route and to allow Rey to move the stones, but those things were just shite. And so were those stupid little birds.
The casino scene, in fact most of what went on on that planet seemed to be a giant waste of time and effort.
However, overall better than quite a few of the series.
With due respect Cato and I say this as someone who likes and admires you:
Get a fooking pair of glasses.
TLJ is an abortion of a film. Easily the worst of the Franchise and possibly the beginning of the end of Star Wars as the blue chip brand it has always been.
Well thank you. I think.
I was half expecting to come away with your view of TLJ after reading some of the "reviews" on here but I thought after watching it that the good outweighed the bad. Preferred it to TFA probably because it didn't have another bloody death star.
Yeah, I watched again the other day and on balance it is OK. I don't mind the overall direction of the story but it could have been done much better with a step back and big edit.
Yes. if I were to compare the two I would say TFA is a poor story told reasonably well, whereas TLJ is a good story told pretty averagely.
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after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
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@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Its a steaming pile of shit for a Star Wars flick but still ok by normal movie standards.
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@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
The bitterness is strong in this one.
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@catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
The bitterness is strong in this one.
He's right though....and he left heaps of stuff out. No mention of Holdo and DJ.
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@catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
The bitterness is strong in this one.
Very poor selection of word and massive deflection. I'm not bitter. I'm merely pointing out how shit the film is.
But let's focus on one thing. The Luke map. This is the premise of TFA. The plot line in itself is absurd, I mean why would he leave part of a map with old fart and part with R2? Is he a pirate and likes treasure hunts? But this ridiculous idea is destroyed in TLJ when we find out Luke never wanted to be found. Did the writers of the TLJ even take this into consideration? Did they even care? This is so damn weak. It's straight out lazy. That's not Star Wars, that's farking Transformers.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
The bitterness is strong in this one.
Very poor selection of word and massive deflection. I'm not bitter. I'm merely pointing out how shit the film is.
But let's focus on one thing. The Luke map. This is the premise of TFA. The plot line in itself is absurd, I mean why would he leave part of a map with old fart and part with R2? Is he a pirate and likes treasure hunts? But this ridiculous idea is destroyed in TLJ when we find out Luke never wanted to be found. Did the writers of the TLJ even take this into consideration? Did they even care? This is so damn weak. It's straight out lazy. That's not Star Wars, that's farking Transformers.
The 'It's Star Wars' argument is weak as well. That's all anyone on here can come up with when they're trying to say it's any good.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
The bitterness is strong in this one.
Very poor selection of word and massive deflection. I'm not bitter. I'm merely pointing out how shit the film is.
But let's focus on one thing. The Luke map. This is the premise of TFA. The plot line in itself is absurd, I mean why would he leave part of a map with old fart and part with R2? Is he a pirate and likes treasure hunts? But this ridiculous idea is destroyed in TLJ when we find out Luke never wanted to be found. Did the writers of the TLJ even take this into consideration? Did they even care? This is so damn weak. It's straight out lazy. That's not Star Wars, that's farking Transformers.
Sorry. I should have said “The bitterness is strong in this one-said in Darth Vader voice”. I can’t quite believe I’ve got tangled up in a geeky Star Wars argument. I think I’ll bugger off to the US politics thread and call for canonisation of Obama. Should cause fewer issues.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
The bitterness is strong in this one.
Very poor selection of word and massive deflection. I'm not bitter. I'm merely pointing out how shit the film is.
But let's focus on one thing. The Luke map. This is the premise of TFA. The plot line in itself is absurd, I mean why would he leave part of a map with old fart and part with R2? Is he a pirate and likes treasure hunts? But this ridiculous idea is destroyed in TLJ when we find out Luke never wanted to be found. Did the writers of the TLJ even take this into consideration? Did they even care? This is so damn weak. It's straight out lazy. That's not Star Wars, that's farking Transformers.
I think some of this type of mess is attributable to a lack of coordination and/or foresight across the SW franchise where film maker editing creates a problem that then needs to be back-filled.
Some is simply the over analysis by fans compared to the original trilogy.You have the SW Rebels animated show that finished it's storyline before R1 and ANH but had a scene set after those events which added new elements to the canon that are yet to be explained but may well mesh in and fill the gaps created by TFA. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the story of 'the old guy', the story of Rey's parents, the story of the rise of Snoke and the story of how Maz had Luke's lightsaber are all fleshed out.
As for the example above and 'the map', there could be an explanation in the offing through the various novels, comics, TV series etc, but yeah, if you only watch the movies the producers have not done a good job.
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@crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@catogrande said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
The bitterness is strong in this one.
Very poor selection of word and massive deflection. I'm not bitter. I'm merely pointing out how shit the film is.
But let's focus on one thing. The Luke map. This is the premise of TFA. The plot line in itself is absurd, I mean why would he leave part of a map with old fart and part with R2? Is he a pirate and likes treasure hunts? But this ridiculous idea is destroyed in TLJ when we find out Luke never wanted to be found. Did the writers of the TLJ even take this into consideration? Did they even care? This is so damn weak. It's straight out lazy. That's not Star Wars, that's farking Transformers.
I think some of this type of mess is attributable to a lack of coordination and/or foresight across the SW franchise where film maker editing creates a problem that then needs to be back-filled.
Some is simply the over analysis by fans compared to the original trilogy.You have the SW Rebels animated show that finished it's storyline before R1 and ANH but had a scene set after those events which added new elements to the canon that are yet to be explained but may well mesh in and fill the gaps created by TFA. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the story of 'the old guy', the story of Rey's parents, the story of the rise of Snoke and the story of how Maz had Luke's lightsaber are all fleshed out.
As for the example above and 'the map', there could be an explanation in the offing through the various novels, comics, TV series etc, but yeah, if you only watch the movies the producers have not done a good job.
It's completely unacceptable. If some tool with barely any spare time can point this shit out then those who are actually paid to create this stuff should be all over it. Lazy and disrespectful to the real fans and the brand.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
Did Luke leave a map? I'm not sure that's what happened.
We know that they had a map to his location, which needed extra information from the Empire archives. It seemed more like they knew where Luke had gone, but nobody knew where the planet was.
Seeing as Obi Wan and Yoda wiped records from the Jedi Temple in III, maybe they removed the location of the first Jedi Temple and how to get to the planet? Like the Emperor did with the Clone planet.
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@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
Did Luke leave a map? I'm not sure that's what happened.
We know that they had a map to his location, which needed extra information from the Empire archives. It seemed more like they knew where Luke had gone, but nobody knew where the planet was.
Seeing as Obi Wan and Yoda wiped records from the Jedi Temple in III, maybe they removed the location of the first Jedi Temple and how to get to the planet? Like the Emperor did with the Clone planet.
That's one interpretation, but is not mentioned at any stage. If that's the case then why did R2 have the missing piece? Why would he have just a piece and not the whole map?
I think you're giving the writers too much credit.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
Did Luke leave a map? I'm not sure that's what happened.
We know that they had a map to his location, which needed extra information from the Empire archives. It seemed more like they knew where Luke had gone, but nobody knew where the planet was.
Seeing as Obi Wan and Yoda wiped records from the Jedi Temple in III, maybe they removed the location of the first Jedi Temple and how to get to the planet? Like the Emperor did with the Clone planet.
That's one interpretation, but is not mentioned at any stage. If that's the case then why did R2 have the missing piece? Why would he have just a piece and not the whole map?
I think you're giving the writers too much credit.
They mention in TFA that R2 has the Empire’s Records from when he plugged into the Death Star computer.
This is all nerd backstory. Remember that these are supposed to be movies for 12 year olds based on old B-movie serials.
The correct answer to why they have the map is that the story needs them to. You can pick these sorts of holes in the original trilogy too.
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@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
after reading reviews on here I expected it to be the shittest film ever in the history of shit films...it wasn't, not by a long shot....it wasnt great, but it was watchable.
Only because it was Star Wars.
The visuals were great but that is a given for SW films. Otherwise it was terrible. Watch that Leah Mary Poppins scene if you don't think so. Or when Rose rams then kisses Finn. And that is just the tip of an enormous farking iceberg. Even bigger are the plot holes. So Luke exiles himself and not even a galactic emergency will bring him back. Yet he leaves a map (which is pretty much the entire farking plot of TFA). None of it makes any sense. It's like they have no outline of a story and are just making shit up as they go.
Rogue One was good because it actually felt like a SW film and you felt the director was a fan himself and respected the brand. No proper fan or anyone who cared about the fans or the integrity of the series would have served up this latest serving of shite.
Did Luke leave a map? I'm not sure that's what happened.
We know that they had a map to his location, which needed extra information from the Empire archives. It seemed more like they knew where Luke had gone, but nobody knew where the planet was.
Seeing as Obi Wan and Yoda wiped records from the Jedi Temple in III, maybe they removed the location of the first Jedi Temple and how to get to the planet? Like the Emperor did with the Clone planet.
That's one interpretation, but is not mentioned at any stage. If that's the case then why did R2 have the missing piece? Why would he have just a piece and not the whole map?
I think you're giving the writers too much credit.
They mention in TFA that R2 has the Empire’s Records from when he plugged into the Death Star computer.
This is all nerd backstory. Remember that these are supposed to be movies for 12 year olds based on old B-movie serials.
The correct answer to why they have the map is that the story needs them to. You can pick these sorts of holes in the original trilogy too.
That's an argument that's always trotted out and while true to some extent there's no way that the OT had anything like the clangers you see in the latest films and certainly not the sheer number. Even simple things like continuity are piss poor. For instance Phasma is literally standing right beside Finn and Rose for their execution but then ends up on the other side of the hangar. That's not even something you have to look carefully for, it's just one of many wtf moments in the film.
As for the whole "it's for 12 year olds" argument. Tbh I don't know who the fark SW are aiming at these days (certainty isn't young boys) , but if I accept that argument it's still no excuse for shithouse writing and poor plot development.
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Watching one of these Star Wars movies now.. not sure where to begin
The lead star is this whiny kid, the cgi is laughable. There was this escape pod which the bad guys could have blasted but they have to save their blasters?!? Wtf.. big ploy hole there.
Then they have this fucken wasted period at some stupid cantina, complete was of time. What was the point of that?The makers of this film have ruined my childhood er i mean adulthood.
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@virgil said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Watching one of these Star Wars movies now.. not sure where to begin
The lead star is this whiny kid, the cgi is laughable. There was this escape pod which the bad guys could have blasted but they have to save their blasters?!? Wtf.. big ploy hole there.
Then they have this fucken wasted period at some stupid cantina, complete was of time. What was the point of that?The makers of this film have ruined my childhood er i mean adulthood.
It was the 70s, the bar was set so much lower
