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All Blacks Squad for France

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  • TimT Tim

    Selecting Savea as a 3rd openside would be so fucking dumb.

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    @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    Selecting Savea as a 3rd openside would be so fucking dumb.

    In his squad Ardie would have to be the backup no.8.

    To me, there needs to be some balance in the loose forwards so that the players complement eachother.

    If Squire is available then putting Whitelock or Ioane at no.8 and Cane at 7 is the best option.

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      @bovidae There's nothing completely outlandish in Bidwell's squad, but there's a bit that seems unlikely.

      I've been wondering what they're going to do about guys on the long term injured list - especially Squire and Laulala. Hasn't been much news about when they're likely to emerge, but you'd think they'd have to be able to get at least one game under their belts to be picked for the French series.

      So JTA in for Nepo wouldn't surprise me.

      Frizzell is the one that I can't really see making it. Sure he's an impressive physical specimen, but he's only played in a handful of Super rugby games. With a question mark over Squire's fitness and form and Ardie as a midget option at number 8, I can't see it - that set of loose forwards looks too thin - especially on experience. Even in terms of "selection politics" it would make more sense to give the carrot to Whitelock, Ioane or even Taufua - overlooking all of those guys for Frizzell would be sending a pretty strong "fuck off" message.

      In the midfield, I'd pick Goodhue, but it won't surprise me if he misses out - ALB is more established in the squad than Jack.

      The rest of the backs look pretty right to me - they'll want a wing-fullback option if they're planning to use Ben Smith at fullback (and they probably are), so NMS over Lam. I haven't spent much time watching TTT, but he's clearly in the frame - I reckon it will be him or Bryn Hall.

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        A bench of Barrett and Savea would have the least physical impact since their decidedly underwhelming performances against the Lions.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @bovidae There's nothing completely outlandish in Bidwell's squad, but there's a bit that seems unlikely.

          I've been wondering what they're going to do about guys on the long term injured list - especially Squire and Laulala. Hasn't been much news about when they're likely to emerge, but you'd think they'd have to be able to get at least one game under their belts to be picked for the French series.

          So JTA in for Nepo wouldn't surprise me.

          Frizzell is the one that I can't really see making it. Sure he's an impressive physical specimen, but he's only played in a handful of Super rugby games. With a question mark over Squire's fitness and form and Ardie as a midget option at number 8, I can't see it - that set of loose forwards looks too thin - especially on experience. Even in terms of "selection politics" it would make more sense to give the carrot to Whitelock, Ioane or even Taufua - overlooking all of those guys for Frizzell would be sending a pretty strong "fuck off" message.

          In the midfield, I'd pick Goodhue, but it won't surprise me if he misses out - ALB is more established in the squad than Jack.

          The rest of the backs look pretty right to me - they'll want a wing-fullback option if they're planning to use Ben Smith at fullback (and they probably are), so NMS over Lam. I haven't spent much time watching TTT, but he's clearly in the frame - I reckon it will be him or Bryn Hall.

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          @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          I've been wondering what they're going to do about guys on the long term injured list - especially Squire and Laulala. Hasn't been much news about when they're likely to emerge, but you'd think they'd have to be able to get at least one game under their belts to be picked for the French series.

          So JTA in for Nepo wouldn't surprise me.

          Laulala could be back as early as next round vs NSW according to Ngatai (in his Stormers post-match comments). Of course, let's wait to see. The same for Squire.

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            Frizzell over Akira or Luke of the Whitelock would be nuts. I've watched ever Highlanders match this year and I still had to stop and think about who he's playing for.

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              @broughie said in All Blacks Squad for France:

              @cgrant Never really sold on Duffie and his defence is crap. He is a role player but not in the future of AB plans.

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              @mn5 Nadolo did that to a lot of players but I think we agree. How is the big man doing? He was a talent.

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                DMac covers both 10 and 15, which would allow four at back and Goodhue to be fitted in.

                All for talent getting a shot but Frizzell in instead of Ioane AND Whitelock seems unwise.

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                  Crotty concussed, again, so probably another midfield slot open

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                    Crockett's the bolter

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                    • WurzelW Wurzel

                      Crockett's the bolter

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                      @wurzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      Crockett's the bolter

                      Good that they pick a young up-and-coming player. πŸ˜‰

                      Rather him than Perry though (I hope).

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @wurzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                        Crockett's the bolter

                        Good that they pick a young up-and-coming player. πŸ˜‰

                        Rather him than Perry though (I hope).

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                        @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                        Good that they pick a young up-and-coming player. πŸ˜‰

                        I'm not sure 'up and coming' fits with a quick series against the Froggies. Whoever plays is unlikely to feature at the RWC next year - I guess they figure they'd grab Crockett again if needed ... o rjust abandon ship if it gets that bad again.

                        I guess I"m happy with that πŸ™‚

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                          Any live stream anywhere? FFS it's 2018!

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                            Live on Sky Ch54 I've just noticed.

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                              Thanks wasn't showing on the online Sky Guide

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                                Well, Bidwell gets it

                                Frizzell in
                                Akira out

                                JTA and Perry in

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                                  and a new cap for Taufua

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                                    Full squad

                                    Ben Smith, Liam Squire, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Jordan Taufua, Codie Taylor, Toomaga-Allen, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Luke Whitelock, Sam Whitelock (captain), Sonny Bill Williams.

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                                      Full squad

                                      Ben Smith, Liam Squire, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Jordan Taufua, Codie Taylor, Toomaga-Allen, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Luke Whitelock, Sam Whitelock (captain), Sonny Bill Williams.

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                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      Full squad

                                      Ben Smith, Liam Squire, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Jordan Taufua, Codie Taylor, Toomaga-Allen, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Luke Whitelock, Sam Whitelock (captain), Sonny Bill Williams.

                                      Tim Perry, Brodie Retallick, Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith
                                      Rieko Ioane, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Damian McKenzie, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Joe Moody, Richie Mo'unga, Waisake Naholo, TJ Perenara
                                      Beauden Barrett, Jordie Barrett, Scott Barrett, Sam Cane (vice captain), Ryan Crotty, Fifita, Owen Franks, Shannon Frizell, Jack Goodhue, Nathan Harris.,

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                                        Who were the two as standbys, Akira and ???

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                                          Who were the two as standbys, Akira and ???

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                                          @machpants Coltman

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