All Blacks Squad for France
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.
Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.
Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.
If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.
Pretty sure they'll start Luke Whitelock at No. 8. He played our previous test there.
@chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.
Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.
Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.
If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.
Pretty sure they'll start Luke Whitelock at No. 8. He played our previous test there.
Colour me underwhelmed
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As Selectors pointed out its work rate and energy levels for Akira. ABs need the forwards to work, clean out rucks, link etc so backs can finish which is probably why Akira not chosen...in saying that I would have chosen him over Frizell
this french test series is to see if some are up to it. Tafua its make or break, as with Frizell. I can see why Ardie has been picked as well. With Tafua and Whitelock they are starters only, Ardie can play 8 of the bench which is very important for makeup of team. I wld suggest if Read is back playing 80min Ardie might need to play well to keep out Todd as an openside specialist.@98blueandgold said in All Blacks Squad for France:
As Selectors pointed out its work rate and energy levels for Akira. ABs need the forwards to work, clean out rucks, link etc so backs can finish which is probably why Akira not chosen
Is "workrate and energy levels" a euphemism for masquerading on the wing ala Fifita?
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havent people been moaning about how boring and predictable our squad namings have been in recent years
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I don't watch enough of the teams to provide a knowledgable opinion.
But my hunch is they've got the man-management wrong here. I reckon now is the time for the carrot for Akira, see how he goes in an elite environment.
I have such a raging boner for the All Black lineout that Taufua's selection concerns me a bit. I'd be uncomfortable seeing him in the ABs in any other role than a Masoe-like role covering all 3 loosies off the bench. But I tip my hat to his dedication in reaching this awesome achievement, I can't say he hasn't deserved it.
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@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.
Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.
Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.
If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.
Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.
Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.
If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.
I don’t want to sound like a stuck record , the one bloke we couldn’t afford to lose was victor Vito , he should’ve been a priority to keep , couldn’t believe how he left with a minimum of fuss .
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.
Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.
Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.
If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.
I don’t want to sound like a stuck record , the one bloke we couldn’t afford to lose was victor Vito , he should’ve been a priority to keep , couldn’t believe how he left with a minimum of fuss .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.
Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.
Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.
If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.
I don’t want to sound like a stuck record , the one bloke we couldn’t afford to lose was victor Vito , he should’ve been a priority to keep , couldn’t believe how he left with a minimum of fuss .
Or Luatua. Both those guys would have slotted into this lineup very nicely , thank you very much.
Wiki tells me VV is 1.92, and Luatua is 1.94
for fun, Ardie is apparently 1.88 m. Doesn't say with or without hair
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Damn, I hope that Rieko doesn't get as pissed off with Akira's non selection as we do and decide to bugger off immediately after the RWC.
@nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:
Damn, I hope that Rieko doesn't get as pissed off with Akira's non selection as we do and decide to bugger off immediately after the RWC.
long way to go in the season yet. I suspect Akira is now being shown explicitly what training hard means - and asked if he wants to be an All Black. My fear is that people will be knocking on his door offering telephone unmbers to head north.
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I guess the selectors didnt watch the Highlanders game last night then. Frizell's bench impact involved losing the ball and missing tackles. Good talent for sure but also a poach which this regime has no problem with.
Workrate and energy levels issues? You can thank Tana for that. Akira has been played into the ground by Tana. At least this way he'll get some much deserved game time off in June.
I reckon NMS is a tad lucky. I'm a huge fan but I dont think hes the same player he was in 2015.
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Damn, I hope that Rieko doesn't get as pissed off with Akira's non selection as we do and decide to bugger off immediately after the RWC.
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The players not considered for selection due to injury were Asafo Aumua, Dane Coles, Kane Hames, Nepo Laulala, Atu Moli, Patrick Tuipulotu and Israel Dagg.
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@bovidae and Kieran read of course
@family-man Blame allblacks.com for that oversight.
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Wynne Gray with some cutting insight:
Rugby has changed immensely since the 1987 RWC, the game we thought was fast then is very different from the one we see now.
@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
Wynne Gray with some cutting insight:
Rugby has changed immensely since the 1987 RWC, the game we thought was fast then is very different from the one we see now.
Phoning it in from the Keith Quinn Rugby Retirement Village
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@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia Note that neither of the Ioane's have re-signed with the NZRU yet.
So we should pick Akira because he might throw a tantrum and leave if we don’t?
Not the type of guy I want in the ABs if that’s the case.
Was kind of hoping he didn’t get picked to see the meltdown on here. It hasn’t disappointed
Pretty shit defensive effort by Akira to let Bryn hall score last night, he’s had a few lapses like that this year
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@chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.
Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.
Now that perma-crocked Read can't be relied on, what's the plan at #8? If it's A Savea (who is a shit test player) then we're basically Australia.
If we lose either of our top locks we are fucked.
Pretty sure they'll start Luke Whitelock at No. 8. He played our previous test there.
Colour me underwhelmed
@mariner4life I agree. JTA and Perry are our next best props? We are thin. 2 good locks and one that can run but is underwhelminig in the physicality you need. Loose forwards? Cane and Fafita but the rest? Tuafua is not an international 8 so he is a 6 and not that imposing. Ardie is a 7 only. Akira, maybe MacDonald the Southerner can help out the Blues, and therefore your chances as an AB.
While our forwards excell in fitness I will be interested in the forward battle with the Boks who seem to be more competitive and physical this year based on their performances against the Kiwi sides. Their backs are playing with a bit more flair as well.
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As Selectors pointed out its work rate and energy levels for Akira. ABs need the forwards to work, clean out rucks, link etc so backs can finish which is probably why Akira not chosen...in saying that I would have chosen him over Frizell
this french test series is to see if some are up to it. Tafua its make or break, as with Frizell. I can see why Ardie has been picked as well. With Tafua and Whitelock they are starters only, Ardie can play 8 of the bench which is very important for makeup of team. I wld suggest if Read is back playing 80min Ardie might need to play well to keep out Todd as an openside specialist.@98blueandgold said in All Blacks Squad for France:
Ardie can play 8 of the bench which is very important for makeup of team.
This is the bit I don't get. Haven't seen anything to suggest Ardie is effective at the core roles of an 8, just seems convenient because his Super coaches have put him there a few times.
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@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia Note that neither of the Ioane's have re-signed with the NZRU yet.
So we should pick Akira because he might throw a tantrum and leave if we don’t?
Not the type of guy I want in the ABs if that’s the case.
Was kind of hoping he didn’t get picked to see the meltdown on here. It hasn’t disappointed
Pretty shit defensive effort by Akira to let Bryn hall score last night, he’s had a few lapses like that this year
@sammyc He's bound to after covering his shit team mates virtually all season. No-one's 100% perfect in their play. As has been said though, he's being made to work for it which isn't a terrible thing and I doubt he gonna leave NZ rugby altogether either.
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@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia Note that neither of the Ioane's have re-signed with the NZRU yet.
So we should pick Akira because he might throw a tantrum and leave if we don’t?
Not the type of guy I want in the ABs if that’s the case.
Was kind of hoping he didn’t get picked to see the meltdown on here. It hasn’t disappointed
Pretty shit defensive effort by Akira to let Bryn hall score last night, he’s had a few lapses like that this year
@sammyc said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia Note that neither of the Ioane's have re-signed with the NZRU yet.
So we should pick Akira because he might throw a tantrum and leave if we don’t?
Not the type of guy I want in the ABs if that’s the case.
Was kind of hoping he didn’t get picked to see the meltdown on here. It hasn’t disappointed
Pretty shit defensive effort by Akira to let Bryn hall score last night, he’s had a few lapses like that this year
Yawn, if you want to pretend that Akira hasn't been one of the best players this 'season' not just last night, and that Shannon Frizzell has then go for you life.
I thought you'd be more disappointed that the in form Matt Todd is omitted for the hopelessly out of form Savea TBH.
