Blues 2019
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Rugby Pass must be worried about losing subscribers - they've published two optimistic pieces today about the Blues' future.
The Blues Pero-future is here, and it's better than you think
Time for Blues to build on young foundation - Season Review
Of note:
One of the main reasons for the Blues’ woes simply has to be Umaga’s inconsistency with player selection. Sure, injuries to key figures Sonny Bill Williams and Augustine Pulu haven’t helped, but even when healthy it seems a completely new backline trots out for the Blues each week. While young star Rieko Ioane has appeared in 14 matches for the Blues this season, he hasn’t been able to play consistent minutes at any one position. This season Ioane has played with four different numbers on the back of his jersey. 11 – four times, 12 – six times, 13 – three times, and 14 – once. Umaga – through injury or otherwise – has used an astounding ten different midfield combinations this season, chopping and changing between seven different players. The Blues’ most common midfield partnership has only been used three times, and the longest standing partnership at any point in the season has only lasted two weeks. It’s tough to imagine how any team can gel or create chemistry with such high levels of uncertainty heading into each week. Training must be an absolute nightmare. -
Of course the 10 issue is well worn but the Blues have had midfield problems since 2012 following the departure of Ice and Payne in 2011.
I will say Nonu helped shore up the midfield in 2014 but aside from that it's been 7 straight seasons of midfield issues.
I think it also highlights Blues have had some terrible coaching/selecting during that period. Midfield is a hugely important cog in a backline and can be difficult to select.
What gives me some hope is Leon MacDonald coming on board. The best backline/attack coach the Blues have had in yonks. I'm hopeful he can sort it out.
Right now you've got SBW who has hardly played for the Blues in 2 years, Rieko who looks useful at 13 but is absolutely not a 12. Collins looks bad at 13 and has never been tried at 12. Leger looks ok (for a rookie) at 13 but has never been tried at 12. Faiane is all hype and no delivery. He tries hard but he's small, a poor defender and error prone, last week when he came on he threw an intercept with his first touch and then followed this up by conceding a penalty in the same movement. Probably why Tua has replaced him on the bench this week. Speaking of Tua of what little I have seen he doesn't look physical enough - needs to put on some beef. Smashing your hand whilst out on the chop isn't a great look either.
I'm glad Tele'a has signed for next year. I hope he can stay injury free and get some NPC gametime because he looks very useful and could be the future of the Blues midfield. Plummer can also play 12 which may come in handy.
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One of the big omissions in that Rugby Pass article is that two of the three hookers (Apisai, Moulds) from the regular squad are duff lineout throwers. Just not good enough at this level.
@tim parsons is not a better thrower than Moulds, in fact Moulds had one duff throw as did all the hookers in their last game, he's definitely better around the park in general play. Apisai was actually good at Wellington, he's been off this year, and hampered by injury.
I'd actually like to look at the stats for Moulds's throws because apart from a couple of over throws which can also be shit lifting he's only had one Not straight this year. -
@tim parsons is not a better thrower than Moulds, in fact Moulds had one duff throw as did all the hookers in their last game, he's definitely better around the park in general play. Apisai was actually good at Wellington, he's been off this year, and hampered by injury.
I'd actually like to look at the stats for Moulds's throws because apart from a couple of over throws which can also be shit lifting he's only had one Not straight this year.@northlandallday said in Blues 2019:
@tim parsons is not a better thrower than Moulds, in fact Moulds had one duff throw as did all the hookers in their last game, he's definitely better around the park in general play. Apisai was actually good at Wellington, he's been off this year, and hampered by injury.
I'd actually like to look at the stats for Moulds's throws because apart from a couple of over throws which can also be shit lifting he's only had one Not straight this year.He was mediocre at best for Wellington. Certainly displayed nothing that warranted a 2 year Super Rugby deal. I suppose mediocre is better than absolute rubbish which is what he's been for the Blues this year. Awful signing.
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@northlandallday said in Blues 2019:
@tim parsons is not a better thrower than Moulds, in fact Moulds had one duff throw as did all the hookers in their last game, he's definitely better around the park in general play. Apisai was actually good at Wellington, he's been off this year, and hampered by injury.
I'd actually like to look at the stats for Moulds's throws because apart from a couple of over throws which can also be shit lifting he's only had one Not straight this year.He was mediocre at best for Wellington. Certainly displayed nothing that warranted a 2 year Super Rugby deal. I suppose mediocre is better than absolute rubbish which is what he's been for the Blues this year. Awful signing.
@kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:
He was mediocre at best for Wellington. Certainly displayed nothing that warranted a 2 year Super Rugby deal. I suppose mediocre is better than absolute rubbish which is what he's been for the Blues this year. Awful signing.
I agree. There were hookers from the region who would have been a better selection (Eklund, Wright or Olsen)
One of the reasons they went for Apisai is because they believe he has leadership skills. I guess thats why he got two years. I expect he'll get even more game time next year
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Back/attack coach Leon, and Coventry as the forwards coach and Tana can talk to the press.
Need the new coaches to be the selectors as well though.
@kirwan said in Blues 2019:
Need the new coaches to be the selectors as well though.
Ioane at 12 would be like MacDonald at Centre in a knockout game.
oh.
wait.
Seriously though - those two should lift the coaching somewhat significantly. Maybe a few wise words from Ted, and we may win some derby games
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12087808
Yes yes yes yes. Coventry. Make this happen.
@kiwimurph FUCK YES.
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@tim said in Blues 2019:
Scrafton did his ACL and MCL this season. Good lord I hope he fully recovers.
He was a find when he showed up. Just need to hold these guys for a few years, keep them fit and get a decent coaching group around them.
Everyone inside the business seems to like Tana. Maybe he should be the 'hearts and minds' front man, and the actual coaching, selecting and team operation gets done by Leon, Tom and Ted, with help from others. Could keep everyone happy
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@tim said in Blues 2019:
Scrafton did his ACL and MCL this season. Good lord I hope he fully recovers.
He was a find when he showed up. Just need to hold these guys for a few years, keep them fit and get a decent coaching group around them.
Everyone inside the business seems to like Tana. Maybe he should be the 'hearts and minds' front man, and the actual coaching, selecting and team operation gets done by Leon, Tom and Ted, with help from others. Could keep everyone happy
@nzzp Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
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@nzzp Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
@taniwharugby It's become hugely obvious Blues need new coaching for their attacking structure and forwards play. To get two new coaches in with such successful pedigrees in each of these areas is a huge step in the right direction. Blues have had poor coaching teams for the last 4 seasons since Henry and Bryne left prior to Kirwan's last season.
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@nzzp Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
@taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:
Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
That was the plan this year. Umaga admitted he had short comings as a coach and stepped into more of a co-ordinater role (unlike previous years where he looked after attack or defence etc). But he fucked that up too.
As for Coventry - the turnaround at NH was spectacular. The sort of performance that should earn a SR head coach job. But he's not famous.
Hopefully he makes improvements.. however if they wanted to replicate the NH turnaround he should have been in charge of everything.But remember, the most important thing is not results. It's not hurting Umaga's feelings/wallet or forcing Redman to admit he made a mistake.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:
Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
That was the plan this year. Umaga admitted he had short comings as a coach and stepped into more of a co-ordinater role (unlike previous years where he looked after attack or defence etc). But he fucked that up too.
As for Coventry - the turnaround at NH was spectacular. The sort of performance that should earn a SR head coach job. But he's not famous.
Hopefully he makes improvements.. however if they wanted to replicate the NH turnaround he should have been in charge of everything.But remember, the most important thing is not results. It's not hurting Umaga's feelings/wallet or forcing Redman to admit he made a mistake.
@duluth said in Blues 2019:
plan this year. Umaga admitted he had short comings as a coach and stepped into more of a co-ordinater role (unlike previous years where he looked after attack or defence etc). But he fucked that up too.
As for Coventry - the turnaround at NH was spectacular. The sort of performance that should earn a SR head coach job. But he's not famous.
Hopefully he makes improvements.. however if they wanted to replicate the NH turnaround he should have been in charge of everything.
But remember, the most important thing is not results. It's not hurting Umaga's feelings/wallet or forcing Redman to admit he made a mistake.having worn an AB jersey is a huge help when applying for positions within NZR.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:
Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
That was the plan this year. Umaga admitted he had short comings as a coach and stepped into more of a co-ordinater role (unlike previous years where he looked after attack or defence etc). But he fucked that up too.
As for Coventry - the turnaround at NH was spectacular. The sort of performance that should earn a SR head coach job. But he's not famous.
Hopefully he makes improvements.. however if they wanted to replicate the NH turnaround he should have been in charge of everything.But remember, the most important thing is not results. It's not hurting Umaga's feelings/wallet or forcing Redman to admit he made a mistake.
@duluth said in Blues 2019:
@taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:
As for Coventry - the turnaround at NH was spectacular. The sort of performance that should earn a SR head coach job.
I initially read that as "Northern Hemisphere" and thought you were sarcastically referencing his time at London Irish!
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Saw this at G&GR:
my info is that there's a perception in NH that the Blues will look at an Auckland schools player before a NH M10 Cup player, they were defo miffed when Little went to Japan 'cos the Blues wouldn't give him the (mostly off-season) time he needed to get himself injury-free. Tevita Li's situation also gets mentioned from time to time.
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Saw this at G&GR:
my info is that there's a perception in NH that the Blues will look at an Auckland schools player before a NH M10 Cup player, they were defo miffed when Little went to Japan 'cos the Blues wouldn't give him the (mostly off-season) time he needed to get himself injury-free. Tevita Li's situation also gets mentioned from time to time.
@tim It doesn’t make much sense though. There’s very little Auckland influence at the Blues. Is it a perception about the Dev team? That side is coached by the NH coach.. the performance manager (doing shitty talent spotting) is from Waikato. For the full side, the head coach is from Wellington.. the Assistant coach is an ex NH coach
