Blues 2019
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Back/attack coach Leon, and Coventry as the forwards coach and Tana can talk to the press.
Need the new coaches to be the selectors as well though.
@kirwan said in Blues 2019:
Need the new coaches to be the selectors as well though.
Ioane at 12 would be like MacDonald at Centre in a knockout game.
oh.
wait.
Seriously though - those two should lift the coaching somewhat significantly. Maybe a few wise words from Ted, and we may win some derby games
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12087808
Yes yes yes yes. Coventry. Make this happen.
@kiwimurph FUCK YES.
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@tim said in Blues 2019:
Scrafton did his ACL and MCL this season. Good lord I hope he fully recovers.
He was a find when he showed up. Just need to hold these guys for a few years, keep them fit and get a decent coaching group around them.
Everyone inside the business seems to like Tana. Maybe he should be the 'hearts and minds' front man, and the actual coaching, selecting and team operation gets done by Leon, Tom and Ted, with help from others. Could keep everyone happy
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@tim said in Blues 2019:
Scrafton did his ACL and MCL this season. Good lord I hope he fully recovers.
He was a find when he showed up. Just need to hold these guys for a few years, keep them fit and get a decent coaching group around them.
Everyone inside the business seems to like Tana. Maybe he should be the 'hearts and minds' front man, and the actual coaching, selecting and team operation gets done by Leon, Tom and Ted, with help from others. Could keep everyone happy
@nzzp Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
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@nzzp Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
@taniwharugby It's become hugely obvious Blues need new coaching for their attacking structure and forwards play. To get two new coaches in with such successful pedigrees in each of these areas is a huge step in the right direction. Blues have had poor coaching teams for the last 4 seasons since Henry and Bryne left prior to Kirwan's last season.
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@nzzp Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
@taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:
Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
That was the plan this year. Umaga admitted he had short comings as a coach and stepped into more of a co-ordinater role (unlike previous years where he looked after attack or defence etc). But he fucked that up too.
As for Coventry - the turnaround at NH was spectacular. The sort of performance that should earn a SR head coach job. But he's not famous.
Hopefully he makes improvements.. however if they wanted to replicate the NH turnaround he should have been in charge of everything.But remember, the most important thing is not results. It's not hurting Umaga's feelings/wallet or forcing Redman to admit he made a mistake.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:
Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
That was the plan this year. Umaga admitted he had short comings as a coach and stepped into more of a co-ordinater role (unlike previous years where he looked after attack or defence etc). But he fucked that up too.
As for Coventry - the turnaround at NH was spectacular. The sort of performance that should earn a SR head coach job. But he's not famous.
Hopefully he makes improvements.. however if they wanted to replicate the NH turnaround he should have been in charge of everything.But remember, the most important thing is not results. It's not hurting Umaga's feelings/wallet or forcing Redman to admit he made a mistake.
@duluth said in Blues 2019:
plan this year. Umaga admitted he had short comings as a coach and stepped into more of a co-ordinater role (unlike previous years where he looked after attack or defence etc). But he fucked that up too.
As for Coventry - the turnaround at NH was spectacular. The sort of performance that should earn a SR head coach job. But he's not famous.
Hopefully he makes improvements.. however if they wanted to replicate the NH turnaround he should have been in charge of everything.
But remember, the most important thing is not results. It's not hurting Umaga's feelings/wallet or forcing Redman to admit he made a mistake.having worn an AB jersey is a huge help when applying for positions within NZR.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:
Tana's Mana will have taken a hit in the past however many years he has been bumbling along, but if he has a less hands on role within the Blues and more the 'face' of the Blues coaching team, it could work better for them.
That was the plan this year. Umaga admitted he had short comings as a coach and stepped into more of a co-ordinater role (unlike previous years where he looked after attack or defence etc). But he fucked that up too.
As for Coventry - the turnaround at NH was spectacular. The sort of performance that should earn a SR head coach job. But he's not famous.
Hopefully he makes improvements.. however if they wanted to replicate the NH turnaround he should have been in charge of everything.But remember, the most important thing is not results. It's not hurting Umaga's feelings/wallet or forcing Redman to admit he made a mistake.
@duluth said in Blues 2019:
@taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:
As for Coventry - the turnaround at NH was spectacular. The sort of performance that should earn a SR head coach job.
I initially read that as "Northern Hemisphere" and thought you were sarcastically referencing his time at London Irish!
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Saw this at G&GR:
my info is that there's a perception in NH that the Blues will look at an Auckland schools player before a NH M10 Cup player, they were defo miffed when Little went to Japan 'cos the Blues wouldn't give him the (mostly off-season) time he needed to get himself injury-free. Tevita Li's situation also gets mentioned from time to time.
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Saw this at G&GR:
my info is that there's a perception in NH that the Blues will look at an Auckland schools player before a NH M10 Cup player, they were defo miffed when Little went to Japan 'cos the Blues wouldn't give him the (mostly off-season) time he needed to get himself injury-free. Tevita Li's situation also gets mentioned from time to time.
@tim It doesnāt make much sense though. Thereās very little Auckland influence at the Blues. Is it a perception about the Dev team? That side is coached by the NH coach.. the performance manager (doing shitty talent spotting) is from Waikato. For the full side, the head coach is from Wellington.. the Assistant coach is an ex NH coach
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@tim It doesnāt make much sense though. Thereās very little Auckland influence at the Blues. Is it a perception about the Dev team? That side is coached by the NH coach.. the performance manager (doing shitty talent spotting) is from Waikato. For the full side, the head coach is from Wellington.. the Assistant coach is an ex NH coach
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And Tevita Li is rubbish.
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@tim It doesnāt make much sense though. Thereās very little Auckland influence at the Blues. Is it a perception about the Dev team? That side is coached by the NH coach.. the performance manager (doing shitty talent spotting) is from Waikato. For the full side, the head coach is from Wellington.. the Assistant coach is an ex NH coach
@duluth historically I think the statement has plenty of truth, back when Dalton had the reins of both BLues & ARU, but I think in recent years its been less of an issue (although still signing kids straight out of school is still going on)
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@duluth historically I think the statement has plenty of truth, back when Dalton had the reins of both BLues & ARU, but I think in recent years its been less of an issue (although still signing kids straight out of school is still going on)
@taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:
although still signing kids straight out of school is still going on
All sides do
As for Dalton he almost made the opposite mistake. This was in a stuff article last week:
In 2014 Bryan Williams (now Sir Bryan) then got a phone call from Andy Dalton, then the CEO of The Blues. "He told me," says Williams, "that he was really beating himself up over whether he should sign Rieko, who was then still at Auckland Grammar. The Blues had a policy that they didn't sign schoolkids, and he was reluctant to break it. I said to Andy, 'If you don't sign him and his brother you'll be regretting it for the rest of your life. You can build a team around him and Akira. They're from great rugby people, and they'll be dedicated and loyal.'" Not every star will have the good fortune to be personally known and recommended by an icon like Williams.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:
although still signing kids straight out of school is still going on
All sides do
As for Dalton he almost made the opposite mistake. This was in a stuff article last week:
In 2014 Bryan Williams (now Sir Bryan) then got a phone call from Andy Dalton, then the CEO of The Blues. "He told me," says Williams, "that he was really beating himself up over whether he should sign Rieko, who was then still at Auckland Grammar. The Blues had a policy that they didn't sign schoolkids, and he was reluctant to break it. I said to Andy, 'If you don't sign him and his brother you'll be regretting it for the rest of your life. You can build a team around him and Akira. They're from great rugby people, and they'll be dedicated and loyal.'" Not every star will have the good fortune to be personally known and recommended by an icon like Williams.
@duluth oh yeah I wasnt meaning it was exclusive to the Blues
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@tim It doesnāt make much sense though. Thereās very little Auckland influence at the Blues. Is it a perception about the Dev team? That side is coached by the NH coach.. the performance manager (doing shitty talent spotting) is from Waikato. For the full side, the head coach is from Wellington.. the Assistant coach is an ex NH coach
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Improving 22 exits has got to be a priority next year. We need another player on the field with a big boot. Nanai has distance, and with more practice should be able to do it. Duffie has no excuses. Unfortunately Collins doesn't have much distance.
Best hope might be signing Shaun Stevenson. He did play under MacDonald and Umaga in the 2016 NZ U20 team.
