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    @tim that is a major blow - both of their leading centres out. Strangely for Australia it's not a position they currently have great depth in.

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    Looking like a lot of All Blacks either out of form, under cooked or played lots of minutes at Super level. The first and second Bledisloes are going to be pretty ropey I reckon.

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    @unite At least Read's back. We need to find a six, and get Cane back into for though.

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    @unite said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    Looking like a lot of All Blacks either out of form, under cooked or played lots of minutes at Super level. The first and second Bledisloes are going to be pretty ropey I reckon.

    We wouldn’t miss a beat if we went with something like....

    1. Moody
    2. Taylor
    3. Franks
    4. Retallick
    5. Whitelock
    6. Squire
    7. Todd
    8. Read
    9. A. Smith
    10. B. Barrett
    11. Ioane
    12. Crotty
    13. Lienart-Brown
    14. B. Smith
    15. J. Barrett
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    @unite said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    Looking like a lot of All Blacks either out of form, under cooked or played lots of minutes at Super level. The first and second Bledisloes are going to be pretty ropey I reckon.

    How about that falling sky?

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    All Blacks selector Grant Fox calls for Damian McKenzie to make 'better choices'

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    @tim Strangely Aaron Smith not mentioned in there too...

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    Jul 24, 2018  /  Sport

    Wallabies well-placed ahead of first Bledisloe Test after Waratahs' success | Bret Harris

    Wallabies well-placed ahead of first Bledisloe Test after Waratahs' success | Bret Harris

    When Australian teams do well at Super Rugby level it has a knock-on effect on the national side

    well, I couldn't disagree more wtih this guy.

    Super rugby success is not corrleated with international success. Going deep into the playoffs just gets the Tahs another return trip to SA, which catches up later in the year.

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    Was just looking at the All Blacks website and the most recent 17 All Blacks.

    Liam Coltman
    Vaea Fifita
    Jordie Barrett
    Ngani Laumape
    David Havili
    Tim Perry
    Asafo Aumua
    Matt Duffie
    Jack Goodhue
    Akira Ioane
    Richie Mo'unga

    Atu Moli
    Mitch Drummond
    Dillon Hunt
    Karl Tu'inukuafe
    Shannon Frizell
    Jackson Hemepo

    Players for most positions, but far from a fearsome team?

    I've bolded those who I reckon might eventually become big AB players.

    Could perhaps add Aumua, Moli, Frizell and Big Karl, who we haven't seen enough of.

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    @tim said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    All Blacks selector Grant Fox calls for Damian McKenzie to make 'better choices'

    They must have tremendous faith that he'll stop making poor decisions, because all evidence to the contrary exists.

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    @act-crusader said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @unite said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    Looking like a lot of All Blacks either out of form, under cooked or played lots of minutes at Super level. The first and second Bledisloes are going to be pretty ropey I reckon.

    We wouldn’t miss a beat if we went with something like....

    1. Moody
    2. Taylor
    3. Franks
    4. Retallick
    5. Whitelock
    6. Squire
    7. Todd
    8. Read
    9. A. Smith
    10. B. Barrett
    11. Ioane
    12. Crotty
    13. Lienart-Brown
    14. B. Smith
    15. J. Barrett

    Earlier there were reports Moody was likely to miss the first couple of RC games, I see he may play this weekend though? Todd is off to Japan is he not?

    Not being funny, but when is the RC squad named, is it after the SR final or before?

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    @unite said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    Earlier there were reports Moody was likely to miss the first couple of RC games, I see he may play this weekend though? Todd is off to Japan is he not?

    Not being funny, but when is the RC squad named, is it after the SR final or before?

    They've said that Todd is still available for the Bledisloe tests, if needed.

    Last year, the squad was named on the Monday after the SR Final, so a few days before the Game of Three Halves. The players who were involved in the Final, didn't play in the Game of Three Halves.

    This year, the SR Final is on 4 August and the Game of Three Halves on Friday, 10 August. If they plan it the same as last year, the team will be named on Monday, 6 August.

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    @stargazer Far be it from me to question your dossiers 🙂 - but, this recent article from Knowler suggests Todd most likely isn't available - especially for the second Bled.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/105438425/move-to-japan-too-good-to-turn-down-says-all-blacks-flanker-matt-todd

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    From Fox Sports

    Wallabies to hold trial game ahead of first Bledisloe Cup Test
    
    THE Wallabies will hold a “mate against mate” trial game in Sydney on August 3 as coach Michael Cheika tries a fresh approach in a bid to break a now 16 year Bledisloe Cup drought.
    Australia has a poor recent record in the opening Bledisloe Test in Sydney and Wallabies hopefuls will now get a valuable hitout and opportunity to push their selection case in the trial match at Leichardt Oval.
    
    Waratahs players will not be involved given they are still alive in the Super Rugby finals.
    
    The trial teams are yet to be announced but it shapes as a “probables v possibles” type game with Cheika coaching a Wallabies squad and Australian women’s sevens mentor John Manenti guiding a Super Rugby selection.
    
    The opening Bledisloe Test is at ANZ Stadium on August 18.
    
    The Rebels, Brumbies and Reds all missed the Super Rugby playoffs and the Wallabies have held a training camp in Sydney this week.
    
    “We were keen to have more Super Rugby teams playing for longer, obviously, and if we look at the last two years we just want to keep the intensity of footy up,” Cheika said.
    
    “Spending five weeks on the sideline before a Bledisloe Test match is not what we want ideally.
    
    “We want guys to play footy.
    
    “It’s not just about the contact, because you can get all that in training.
    
    “But just the little things.
    
    “The pressure in front of a crowd, the referee telling you what to do, the dressing room build up, all those things.
    
    “The mental side of footy.”
    
    The game brings Australia into line with the All Blacks and their annual pre Bledisloe “game of three halves” hitout.
    
    It will kick off at 6.45pm AEST with free entry although gold coin donations will be funnelled into grassroots rugby.
    
    Australian men’s sevens coach Tim Walsh and Rebels assistant Kevin Foote will help guide Manenti’s side.
    
    The match will also be streamed on rugby.com.au.
    
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    From Fox Sports

    Wallabies playmaker Matt Toomua in line for Bledisloe Cup return and deal with Rebels

    Christy Doran
    July 27, 2018 3:56pm
    CHRISTY DORAN@christypdoran

    Matt Toomua is expected to sign with the Melbourne Rebels next week, putting him in the frame to play the opening Bledisloe Test against the All Blacks.

    THE stars are aligning for Leicester Tigers playmaker Matt Toomua to make a dream return for the Wallabies and run out against the All Blacks in the first Bledisloe Cup Test on August 18.
    Toomua joined the Tigers in the English Premiership in 2016 and after an injury plagued first season has enhanced his reputation as one of the most talented inside backs in the world playing alongside England duo George Ford and Manu Tuilagi.

    But the gifted playmaker is back in Australia and with next year’s World Cup on the horizon he is expected to finalise a two-and-a-half year deal with the Melbourne Rebels next week.

    It’s understood Toomua’s wife, Australian cricket star Ellyse Perry, will also continue her sparkling sporting career in Melbourne.

    By signing with the Rebels, the 28-year-old Toomua would be immediately eligible to add to his 33 Tests in the Wallabies’ Rugby Championship opener against New Zealand in Sydney, despite having another season left to run on his contract in England.

    Toomua is familiar with Rebels coach Dave Wessels, who was an assistant during his time in Canberra with the Brumbies.

    Toomua remains under contract with the Tigers until 2020 after signing an extension last November, but it’s understood he has a clause which would allow him to return to Australia in May following the 2018-19 European season.

    It remains unclear how heavily Toomua will feature for the Rebels next year.

    The Rebels’ final regular season match is on June 14 and Super Rugby rules require players to feature in three or more games to be eligible for the finals series.

    Toomua’s workload with Leicester will also be taken into consideration.

    The Wallabies are currently in camp in Sydney but Toomua is not allowed to train as the international window is closed.

    The only 2018 Wallabies Test sitting outside the international window is the third Bledisloe in Yokohama on October 27.

    That means the Wallabies would need to negotiate with the Tigers for his release, as well as fellow Leicester star Tatafu Polota-Nau.

    The impending return of Toomua is a major coup for Australian rugby — even if he doesn’t get selected for the opening Bledisloe.

    The former Brumbies fly-half/inside centre hasn’t played a Test since limping off injured against the All Blacks in Sydney in 2016.

    Wallabies coach Michael Cheika has a big hole at No 10 behind vice captain Bernard Foley.

    Kurtley Beale and Reece Hodge filled the role during the June series against Ireland, but the former is Cheika’s inside centre and the latter has been used off the bench to cover a number of positions given his excellent versatility.

    Young Rebels back Jack Maddocks and Reds flyhalf Hamish Stewart are seen as long term No 10 options, but both are coming off their first full Super Rugby seasons and neither have played a Test.

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    RE Toomua, you would think it would be a big ask to come straight back into the 23 without playing any Super games. At what point does the International window open and allow him to start training, a week before the the Test?

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    Geez I'm surprised he's only 28.

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    @bones said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    Geez I'm surprised he's only 28.

    Yeah he’s been around for some time. When I saw him play schoolboys he seemed a class above at that level. A pretty gifted player. The Brumbies picked him up straight out of school.

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    @act-crusader seems quite the contrast when you find out HBC is 27.

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    Couldn't find a better thread to post this.

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/32763/why-are-the-all-blacks-so-good-cnn-finds-out

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