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    Machpants
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    The article's title is a bit misleading. I thought 'oh feck, he's not going to be back for ages' but it's more wiill Coles go straight back to ABs or Welly Union games?

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12098966

    Forwards
    Hookers: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman and Nathan Harris.
    Props: Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, Karl Tu'inukuafe and Ofa Tuungafasi.
    Locks: Brodie Retallick and Patrick Tuipulotu.
    Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Jackson Hemopo, Akira Ioane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire and Luke Whitelock.

    Backs
    Halfbacks: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith and Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi.
    First five-eighths: Beauden Barrett and Damian McKenzie.
    Midfielders: Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown and Sonny Bill Williams.
    Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12098966&ref=rss

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    Machpants
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    A ridiculous number of loose forwards, and still more to come!

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    So 29 in the training squad and at least 9 Crusaders almost certain to come (maybe Goodhue is not certain) - means at least five of these guys miss out.

    Interesting to see Tuipulotu and Coles there and Nepo Laulala not.

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    @machpants said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    A ridiculous number of loose forwards, and still more to come!

    I've been wondering if Hansen is actually any good at picking loose forwards.

    Since he had the easy picks of McCaw, Read, Kaino, the additional ones have been pretty average and not really fired up.

    Perhaps his one achilles heel?

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    @nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @machpants said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    A ridiculous number of loose forwards, and still more to come!

    I've been wondering if Hansen is actually any good at picking loose forwards.

    Since he had the easy picks of McCaw, Read, Kaino, the additional ones have been pretty average and not really fired up.

    Perhaps his one achilles heel?

    Sam Cane just slapped you.

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    @mariner4life said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @machpants said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    A ridiculous number of loose forwards, and still more to come!

    I've been wondering if Hansen is actually any good at picking loose forwards.

    Since he had the easy picks of McCaw, Read, Kaino, the additional ones have been pretty average and not really fired up.

    Perhaps his one achilles heel?

    Sam Cane just slapped you.

    Liam Squire, Frizzell and Six Foot Ardie just rabbit punched him

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    @nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @mariner4life said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @machpants said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    A ridiculous number of loose forwards, and still more to come!

    I've been wondering if Hansen is actually any good at picking loose forwards.

    Since he had the easy picks of McCaw, Read, Kaino, the additional ones have been pretty average and not really fired up.

    Perhaps his one achilles heel?

    Sam Cane just slapped you.

    Liam Squire, Frizzell and Six Foot Ardie just rabbit punched him

    like he felt it from those fucking lightweights. Luke Whitelock was probably there too, but nobody noticed him.

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    @nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @mariner4life said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @machpants said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    A ridiculous number of loose forwards, and still more to come!

    I've been wondering if Hansen is actually any good at picking loose forwards.

    Since he had the easy picks of McCaw, Read, Kaino, the additional ones have been pretty average and not really fired up.

    Perhaps his one achilles heel?

    Sam Cane just slapped you.

    Liam Squire, Frizzell and Six Foot Ardie just rabbit punched him

    Aside from the Tongan, who are the guys you would have selected over the other two throughout their AB career (remembering that Ardie was actually pretty good early on in his sub role)?

    Then Tongan is that guy every coach seems to pick because he might have the next Kirwan on his hands and he'll be able to take the credit.

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    @nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @machpants said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    A ridiculous number of loose forwards, and still more to come!

    I've been wondering if Hansen is actually any good at picking loose forwards.

    Since he had the easy picks of McCaw, Read, Kaino, the additional ones have been pretty average and not really fired up.

    Perhaps his one achilles heel?

    The continued non-selection (injury replacement only) of 5’14’’ Matt Todd has been a major downfall

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    @act-crusader said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @machpants said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    A ridiculous number of loose forwards, and still more to come!

    I've been wondering if Hansen is actually any good at picking loose forwards.

    Since he had the easy picks of McCaw, Read, Kaino, the additional ones have been pretty average and not really fired up.

    Perhaps his one achilles heel?

    The continued non-selection (injury replacement only) of 5’14’’ Matt Todd has been a major downfall

    This. Matt Todd has been outstanding for some time, and doesn't get a look in

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    @nzzp said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    @machpants said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    A ridiculous number of loose forwards, and still more to come!

    I've been wondering if Hansen is actually any good at picking loose forwards.

    Since he had the easy picks of McCaw, Read, Kaino, the additional ones have been pretty average and not really fired up.

    Perhaps his one achilles heel?

    I'm beginning to think we just aren't producing good loose forwards.

    Which is almost blasphemy for a NZer with any appreciation of All Black history.

    Producing a good 6 should be the easiest position to fill in rugby. He's the guy who gets subbed off if there is yellow.

    We've currently got:
    1 definite test class 8 (but crocked)
    2 definite test class 7s
    0 definite test class 6s

    Can't even blame an exodus of talent. Only Vito I would class as a definite test class 8/6. Even that was only on his form the last year in NZ after flattering to deceive for much of hist test career.

    Lots of almost there's or potentially test class. But there's a big gaping hole at the moment.

    NZ should ooze potential test 6s. Who after a few years can graduate to test 8s.

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    @nzzp tbf, Hansen actually picked McCaw out very early on though...

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    KiwiMurph
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    Laulala has to have more surgery and Coles is set to play Mitre 10 Cup

    alt text

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    cgrant
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    @rapido said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    Can't even blame an exodus of talent. Only Vito I would class as a definite test class 8/6. Even that was only on his form the last year in NZ after flattering to deceive for much of hist test career.

    Luatua ?

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
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    They've been playing excerpts of what sounded like a Hansen interview conference on this training squad on Radiosport.

    Hansen announcing Nepo's news - he has to have a bone graft and might be back for the EOYT if all goes well.

    Coles will probably be picked in the squad, but will come back via the M10 Cup and might be available for the last couple of games of TRC.

    SBW won't make the first two games of TRC, but is expected to be available after that.

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    cgrant
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    So no Alaimalo, no Ben Lam but with Akira Ioane.
    Is the presence of TTT means Bryn Hall won't be selected ?

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    @cgrant said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    So no Alaimalo, no Ben Lam but with Akira Ioane.
    Is the presence of TTT means Bryn Hall won't be selected ?

    Why would Bryn Hall BE selected?

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @cgrant said in 2018 Rugby Championship:

    Is the presence of TTT means Bryn Hall won't be selected ?

    Not necessarily, but it would be much more of a pointer if TTT wasn't there.

    You'd have to say that Hall would be a bit of a bolter and would surely only be picked if TTT had been found significantly wanting in camp.

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