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Bledisloe II

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
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  • F Frank

    Hansen didn't know who to choose between ALB and Laumape, so he watched 1.50 of this video featuring the two. And just like that...........

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    Tries 1 & 3 he should have drawn and passed.

    Shit tackling saw him score

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @broughie If you are looking for evidence just watch a replay of the Hurricanes vs Chiefs quarter final this year. Laumape blew Ngatai and ALB off the park and shut down everything they threw at him. He is far from one dimensional and your comment probably suggests you haven't watched any Hurricanes games this year. There was a reason he was named Canes player of the year - he has been brilliant and probably deserves an opportunity more than ALB.

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      @canes4life Hard to compare super rugby and combinations. Laumape also had Barret on the inside of him. That being said I acknowledge that he is a direct runner and don’t have anything against the man. I don’t see the comparisons to Nonu that some suggest. And ALB was pretty dam good last week. Laumape will also be playing as an AB and will be on the winning team which will often mask weakness that may be exposed with better competition.

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        Tries 1 & 3 he should have drawn and passed.

        Shit tackling saw him score

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        @mikethesnow said in Bledisloe II:

        Tries 1 & 3 he should have drawn and passed.

        Shit tackling saw him score

        Yep. Just like the most famous RWC try ever. Should have passed to Oz. Instead we have an iconic moment.

        To quote Keith Quinn: "Lomu! ... Oh! Oh!".

        There is something to be said for doing things differently sometimes.

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          @hooroo said in Bledisloe II:

          @rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:

          @no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:

          @mikethesnow said in Bledisloe II:

          @no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:

          Wallabies would be better to start Pocock and have Hooper on the bench to up the anti in the final 20. Like Ardie I don't think he's big/physical enough but could be effective against tired legs.

          Looked to me that Hooper was more effective in taking the ball forward than Pocock and similar in defence.

          If both are in the 23 then Pocock really has to start as I can't see him making much of an impact from the bench.

          Both players are vastly overrated.

          Pocock's running game is an absolute joke. He'd be great in NFL with just one specifically defined role, but in rugby you should have both attacking and defending skills, particularly if you're essentially an open side flanker.

          Do you mean running game with ball in hand? Because Ritchie was pretty average with ball in hand as well.

          On the first bolded bit - the modern standard for taking the ball forward was led by Thierry Dusautoir, French captain; Sam Warburton of Wales; Chris Robshaw, England; Irishmen Peter O'Mahony and Sean O'Brien; Schalk Burger; and your very own back three, from Kaino and Messam onward to Sam Cane. Our bloke cannot get near that level, nor can the other, so they have one of 'em wear No 8 - work that out! These fellas I name are/were also a bit useful in the line out because they are inches taller.

          For the second bolded piece: Sir Richie spent his last four or five years running more often, in combinations with Kieran Read off the scrum and freelancing solo, aiming at selected opponents and gaps, thundering down on them using his size, scoring the odd try and giving the last pass a lot - not bad for "pretty average with ball in hand". But you were talking about a bloke named "Ritchie". :winking_face:

          Ooops - that was a near thing! I just went back to see who typed that only to find Hooroo, a man of much higher standing in these parts than myself, a mere furriner. I near ended up ground out as berley for next time y'all go fishing for more of that tasty New Zealand schnapper!
          78-=78-=8-0000000-

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          • Mick Gold Coast QLDM Mick Gold Coast QLD

            @hooroo said in Bledisloe II:

            @rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:

            @no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:

            @mikethesnow said in Bledisloe II:

            @no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:

            Wallabies would be better to start Pocock and have Hooper on the bench to up the anti in the final 20. Like Ardie I don't think he's big/physical enough but could be effective against tired legs.

            Looked to me that Hooper was more effective in taking the ball forward than Pocock and similar in defence.

            If both are in the 23 then Pocock really has to start as I can't see him making much of an impact from the bench.

            Both players are vastly overrated.

            Pocock's running game is an absolute joke. He'd be great in NFL with just one specifically defined role, but in rugby you should have both attacking and defending skills, particularly if you're essentially an open side flanker.

            Do you mean running game with ball in hand? Because Ritchie was pretty average with ball in hand as well.

            On the first bolded bit - the modern standard for taking the ball forward was led by Thierry Dusautoir, French captain; Sam Warburton of Wales; Chris Robshaw, England; Irishmen Peter O'Mahony and Sean O'Brien; Schalk Burger; and your very own back three, from Kaino and Messam onward to Sam Cane. Our bloke cannot get near that level, nor can the other, so they have one of 'em wear No 8 - work that out! These fellas I name are/were also a bit useful in the line out because they are inches taller.

            For the second bolded piece: Sir Richie spent his last four or five years running more often, in combinations with Kieran Read off the scrum and freelancing solo, aiming at selected opponents and gaps, thundering down on them using his size, scoring the odd try and giving the last pass a lot - not bad for "pretty average with ball in hand". But you were talking about a bloke named "Ritchie". :winking_face:

            Ooops - that was a near thing! I just went back to see who typed that only to find Hooroo, a man of much higher standing in these parts than myself, a mere furriner. I near ended up ground out as berley for next time y'all go fishing for more of that tasty New Zealand schnapper!
            78-=78-=8-0000000-

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            @mick-gold-coast-qld I stopped reading at Chris Robshaw.

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            • Mick Gold Coast QLDM Mick Gold Coast QLD

              @hooroo said in Bledisloe II:

              @rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:

              @no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:

              @mikethesnow said in Bledisloe II:

              @no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:

              Wallabies would be better to start Pocock and have Hooper on the bench to up the anti in the final 20. Like Ardie I don't think he's big/physical enough but could be effective against tired legs.

              Looked to me that Hooper was more effective in taking the ball forward than Pocock and similar in defence.

              If both are in the 23 then Pocock really has to start as I can't see him making much of an impact from the bench.

              Both players are vastly overrated.

              Pocock's running game is an absolute joke. He'd be great in NFL with just one specifically defined role, but in rugby you should have both attacking and defending skills, particularly if you're essentially an open side flanker.

              Do you mean running game with ball in hand? Because Ritchie was pretty average with ball in hand as well.

              On the first bolded bit - the modern standard for taking the ball forward was led by Thierry Dusautoir, French captain; Sam Warburton of Wales; Chris Robshaw, England; Irishmen Peter O'Mahony and Sean O'Brien; Schalk Burger; and your very own back three, from Kaino and Messam onward to Sam Cane. Our bloke cannot get near that level, nor can the other, so they have one of 'em wear No 8 - work that out! These fellas I name are/were also a bit useful in the line out because they are inches taller.

              For the second bolded piece: Sir Richie spent his last four or five years running more often, in combinations with Kieran Read off the scrum and freelancing solo, aiming at selected opponents and gaps, thundering down on them using his size, scoring the odd try and giving the last pass a lot - not bad for "pretty average with ball in hand". But you were talking about a bloke named "Ritchie". :winking_face:

              Ooops - that was a near thing! I just went back to see who typed that only to find Hooroo, a man of much higher standing in these parts than myself, a mere furriner. I near ended up ground out as berley for next time y'all go fishing for more of that tasty New Zealand schnapper!
              78-=78-=8-0000000-

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              @mick-gold-coast-qld said in Bledisloe II:

              For the second bolded piece: Sir Richie spent his last four or five years running more often,

              the GOAT didn't really have weaknesses, but fair to say that his running game wasn't a massive strength. To be honest, by the end of his career, I think he just did everything pretty well, but did it all the damn time, all over the paddock, all game. Just incredible.

              By comparison, I'd classify Pocock's running game as a consistent weakness. It's amazing, that a guy with such apparent balance and strength just can't seem to get through contact well or find open spaces (1 run at the weekend excepted). This has been noticeable for a while.

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                Richie also used to be a good support runner ,

                Due to his non stop running , if someone would make a break he would often bob up in support , receive a pass and move it on quickly to a more dangerous runner

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                • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                  There was a period that Richie dropped more ball than usual it was around that 05-06 period when we were playing a lot flatter in attack and we would have runners standing a lot closer to the defensive line. A number of our forwards, even Jerry took a bit of time to adjust.

                  In that 08-11 period he was a real go to guy with ball in hand. Carried far more than earlier in his career and we even liked to use him out wide.

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    There was a period that Richie dropped more ball than usual it was around that 05-06 period when we were playing a lot flatter in attack and we would have runners standing a lot closer to the defensive line. A number of our forwards, even Jerry took a bit of time to adjust.

                    In that 08-11 period he was a real go to guy with ball in hand. Carried far more than earlier in his career and we even liked to use him out wide.

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                    @act-crusader haha yep, there was that period where he used to be good for at least one or two knock ons a game

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                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12112666

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                        "Yeah fix that rugby team despite the massive systemic challenges we've created, or we'll appoint... uh... Richard Graham?!!"

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                          Theres a fat bald old niggly bastard coaching in the Sydney boonies who can't be much worse than the other contenders.

                          Apparently he talks a big power game.

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                          • NTAN NTA

                            "Yeah fix that rugby team despite the massive systemic challenges we've created, or we'll appoint... uh... Richard Graham?!!"

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                            @nta said in Bledisloe II:

                            "Yeah fix that rugby team despite the massive systemic challenges we've created, or we'll appoint... uh... Richard Graham?!!"

                            There's not many coaches without a contact

                            This guy would be fun

                            alt text

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @nta said in Bledisloe II:

                              "Yeah fix that rugby team despite the massive systemic challenges we've created, or we'll appoint... uh... Richard Graham?!!"

                              There's not many coaches without a contact

                              This guy would be fun

                              alt text

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                              @duluth funny man 🙂

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                                Theres a fat bald old niggly bastard coaching in the Sydney boonies who can't be much worse than the other contenders.

                                Apparently he talks a big power game.

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                                @dogmeat said in Bledisloe II:

                                Theres a fat bald old niggly bastard coaching in the Sydney boonies who can't be much worse than the other contenders.

                                Apparently he talks a big power game.

                                if you're referring to me: I'm no longer a coach, but a club administrator pursuing a refereeing career.

                                Therefore I'm the right man to fix both the hideous state of Rugby Australia's pathway system, AND World Rugby's convoluted Laws.

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                                  Big Owen is $9.00 to score a try, $3 more than his propping partner, Moody, with Whitelock next 'least likely' on $5

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    Big Owen is $9.00 to score a try, $3 more than his propping partner, Moody, with Whitelock next 'least likely' on $5

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                                    @taniwharugby sportsbet here have Australia at $11 head to head.

                                    EDIT: I assume Owen's $9 is in Kiwi dollars, and with ours in Aussie dollars it means Franks is almost 50% more likely to score a try, than the Wallabies are to win 🤔

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      @taniwharugby sportsbet here have Australia at $11 head to head.

                                      EDIT: I assume Owen's $9 is in Kiwi dollars, and with ours in Aussie dollars it means Franks is almost 50% more likely to score a try, than the Wallabies are to win 🤔

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                                      @nta Kiwi dollars are the only ones I have

                                      our TAB have Aussie at $9.50 H2H (NZ at $1.04)

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @nta Kiwi dollars are the only ones I have

                                        our TAB have Aussie at $9.50 H2H (NZ at $1.04)

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:

                                        @nta Kiwi dollars are the only ones I have

                                        our TAB have Aussie at $9.50 H2H (NZ at $1.04)

                                        Fucking pessimists - they're worse than you lot on here!

                                        Kiwis $1.05 on sportsbet. Easy money.

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:

                                          @nta Kiwi dollars are the only ones I have

                                          our TAB have Aussie at $9.50 H2H (NZ at $1.04)

                                          Fucking pessimists - they're worse than you lot on here!

                                          Kiwis $1.05 on sportsbet. Easy money.

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                                          @nta said in Bledisloe II:

                                          @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:

                                          @nta Kiwi dollars are the only ones I have

                                          our TAB have Aussie at $9.50 H2H (NZ at $1.04)

                                          Fucking pessimists - they're worse than you lot on here!

                                          Kiwis $1.05 on sportsbet. Easy money.

                                          we're Winx!

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