Bledisloe II
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Tries 1 & 3 he should have drawn and passed.
Shit tackling saw him score
@mikethesnow said in Bledisloe II:
Tries 1 & 3 he should have drawn and passed.
Shit tackling saw him score
Yep. Just like the most famous RWC try ever. Should have passed to Oz. Instead we have an iconic moment.
To quote Keith Quinn: "Lomu! ... Oh! Oh!".
There is something to be said for doing things differently sometimes.
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@hooroo said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:
@mikethesnow said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:
Wallabies would be better to start Pocock and have Hooper on the bench to up the anti in the final 20. Like Ardie I don't think he's big/physical enough but could be effective against tired legs.
Looked to me that Hooper was more effective in taking the ball forward than Pocock and similar in defence.
If both are in the 23 then Pocock really has to start as I can't see him making much of an impact from the bench.
Both players are vastly overrated.
Pocock's running game is an absolute joke. He'd be great in NFL with just one specifically defined role, but in rugby you should have both attacking and defending skills, particularly if you're essentially an open side flanker.
Do you mean running game with ball in hand? Because Ritchie was pretty average with ball in hand as well.
On the first bolded bit - the modern standard for taking the ball forward was led by Thierry Dusautoir, French captain; Sam Warburton of Wales; Chris Robshaw, England; Irishmen Peter O'Mahony and Sean O'Brien; Schalk Burger; and your very own back three, from Kaino and Messam onward to Sam Cane. Our bloke cannot get near that level, nor can the other, so they have one of 'em wear No 8 - work that out! These fellas I name are/were also a bit useful in the line out because they are inches taller.
For the second bolded piece: Sir Richie spent his last four or five years running more often, in combinations with Kieran Read off the scrum and freelancing solo, aiming at selected opponents and gaps, thundering down on them using his size, scoring the odd try and giving the last pass a lot - not bad for "pretty average with ball in hand".
But you were talking about a bloke named "Ritchie".:winking_face:Ooops - that was a near thing! I just went back to see who typed that only to find Hooroo, a man of much higher standing in these parts than myself, a mere furriner. I near ended up ground out as berley for next time y'all go fishing for more of that tasty New Zealand schnapper!
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@hooroo said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:
@mikethesnow said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:
Wallabies would be better to start Pocock and have Hooper on the bench to up the anti in the final 20. Like Ardie I don't think he's big/physical enough but could be effective against tired legs.
Looked to me that Hooper was more effective in taking the ball forward than Pocock and similar in defence.
If both are in the 23 then Pocock really has to start as I can't see him making much of an impact from the bench.
Both players are vastly overrated.
Pocock's running game is an absolute joke. He'd be great in NFL with just one specifically defined role, but in rugby you should have both attacking and defending skills, particularly if you're essentially an open side flanker.
Do you mean running game with ball in hand? Because Ritchie was pretty average with ball in hand as well.
On the first bolded bit - the modern standard for taking the ball forward was led by Thierry Dusautoir, French captain; Sam Warburton of Wales; Chris Robshaw, England; Irishmen Peter O'Mahony and Sean O'Brien; Schalk Burger; and your very own back three, from Kaino and Messam onward to Sam Cane. Our bloke cannot get near that level, nor can the other, so they have one of 'em wear No 8 - work that out! These fellas I name are/were also a bit useful in the line out because they are inches taller.
For the second bolded piece: Sir Richie spent his last four or five years running more often, in combinations with Kieran Read off the scrum and freelancing solo, aiming at selected opponents and gaps, thundering down on them using his size, scoring the odd try and giving the last pass a lot - not bad for "pretty average with ball in hand".
But you were talking about a bloke named "Ritchie".:winking_face:Ooops - that was a near thing! I just went back to see who typed that only to find Hooroo, a man of much higher standing in these parts than myself, a mere furriner. I near ended up ground out as berley for next time y'all go fishing for more of that tasty New Zealand schnapper!
78-=78-=8-0000000-@mick-gold-coast-qld I stopped reading at Chris Robshaw.
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@hooroo said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:
@mikethesnow said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:
Wallabies would be better to start Pocock and have Hooper on the bench to up the anti in the final 20. Like Ardie I don't think he's big/physical enough but could be effective against tired legs.
Looked to me that Hooper was more effective in taking the ball forward than Pocock and similar in defence.
If both are in the 23 then Pocock really has to start as I can't see him making much of an impact from the bench.
Both players are vastly overrated.
Pocock's running game is an absolute joke. He'd be great in NFL with just one specifically defined role, but in rugby you should have both attacking and defending skills, particularly if you're essentially an open side flanker.
Do you mean running game with ball in hand? Because Ritchie was pretty average with ball in hand as well.
On the first bolded bit - the modern standard for taking the ball forward was led by Thierry Dusautoir, French captain; Sam Warburton of Wales; Chris Robshaw, England; Irishmen Peter O'Mahony and Sean O'Brien; Schalk Burger; and your very own back three, from Kaino and Messam onward to Sam Cane. Our bloke cannot get near that level, nor can the other, so they have one of 'em wear No 8 - work that out! These fellas I name are/were also a bit useful in the line out because they are inches taller.
For the second bolded piece: Sir Richie spent his last four or five years running more often, in combinations with Kieran Read off the scrum and freelancing solo, aiming at selected opponents and gaps, thundering down on them using his size, scoring the odd try and giving the last pass a lot - not bad for "pretty average with ball in hand".
But you were talking about a bloke named "Ritchie".:winking_face:Ooops - that was a near thing! I just went back to see who typed that only to find Hooroo, a man of much higher standing in these parts than myself, a mere furriner. I near ended up ground out as berley for next time y'all go fishing for more of that tasty New Zealand schnapper!
78-=78-=8-0000000-@mick-gold-coast-qld said in Bledisloe II:
For the second bolded piece: Sir Richie spent his last four or five years running more often,
the GOAT didn't really have weaknesses, but fair to say that his running game wasn't a massive strength. To be honest, by the end of his career, I think he just did everything pretty well, but did it all the damn time, all over the paddock, all game. Just incredible.
By comparison, I'd classify Pocock's running game as a consistent weakness. It's amazing, that a guy with such apparent balance and strength just can't seem to get through contact well or find open spaces (1 run at the weekend excepted). This has been noticeable for a while.
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There was a period that Richie dropped more ball than usual it was around that 05-06 period when we were playing a lot flatter in attack and we would have runners standing a lot closer to the defensive line. A number of our forwards, even Jerry took a bit of time to adjust.
In that 08-11 period he was a real go to guy with ball in hand. Carried far more than earlier in his career and we even liked to use him out wide.
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There was a period that Richie dropped more ball than usual it was around that 05-06 period when we were playing a lot flatter in attack and we would have runners standing a lot closer to the defensive line. A number of our forwards, even Jerry took a bit of time to adjust.
In that 08-11 period he was a real go to guy with ball in hand. Carried far more than earlier in his career and we even liked to use him out wide.
@act-crusader haha yep, there was that period where he used to be good for at least one or two knock ons a game
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"Yeah fix that rugby team despite the massive systemic challenges we've created, or we'll appoint... uh... Richard Graham?!!"
@nta said in Bledisloe II:
"Yeah fix that rugby team despite the massive systemic challenges we've created, or we'll appoint... uh... Richard Graham?!!"
There's not many coaches without a contact
This guy would be fun
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@nta said in Bledisloe II:
"Yeah fix that rugby team despite the massive systemic challenges we've created, or we'll appoint... uh... Richard Graham?!!"
There's not many coaches without a contact
This guy would be fun
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Theres a fat bald old niggly bastard coaching in the Sydney boonies who can't be much worse than the other contenders.
Apparently he talks a big power game.
@dogmeat said in Bledisloe II:
Theres a fat bald old niggly bastard coaching in the Sydney boonies who can't be much worse than the other contenders.
Apparently he talks a big power game.
if you're referring to me: I'm no longer a coach, but a club administrator pursuing a refereeing career.
Therefore I'm the right man to fix both the hideous state of Rugby Australia's pathway system, AND World Rugby's convoluted Laws.
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Big Owen is $9.00 to score a try, $3 more than his propping partner, Moody, with Whitelock next 'least likely' on $5
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Big Owen is $9.00 to score a try, $3 more than his propping partner, Moody, with Whitelock next 'least likely' on $5
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@taniwharugby sportsbet here have Australia at $11 head to head.
EDIT: I assume Owen's $9 is in Kiwi dollars, and with ours in Aussie dollars it means Franks is almost 50% more likely to score a try, than the Wallabies are to win
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@nta Kiwi dollars are the only ones I have
our TAB have Aussie at $9.50 H2H (NZ at $1.04)
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
@nta Kiwi dollars are the only ones I have
our TAB have Aussie at $9.50 H2H (NZ at $1.04)
Fucking pessimists - they're worse than you lot on here!
Kiwis $1.05 on sportsbet. Easy money.
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
@nta Kiwi dollars are the only ones I have
our TAB have Aussie at $9.50 H2H (NZ at $1.04)
Fucking pessimists - they're worse than you lot on here!
Kiwis $1.05 on sportsbet. Easy money.
@nta said in Bledisloe II:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
@nta Kiwi dollars are the only ones I have
our TAB have Aussie at $9.50 H2H (NZ at $1.04)
Fucking pessimists - they're worse than you lot on here!
Kiwis $1.05 on sportsbet. Easy money.
we're Winx!
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
@nta Kiwi dollars are the only ones I have
our TAB have Aussie at $9.50 H2H (NZ at $1.04)
Fucking pessimists - they're worse than you lot on here!
Kiwis $1.05 on sportsbet. Easy money.
@nta easy money only if you have a fuckton to throw on it....think I heard someone put a hundred K on the ABs early in the week...
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@nta said in Bledisloe II:
"Yeah fix that rugby team despite the massive systemic challenges we've created, or we'll appoint... uh... Richard Graham?!!"
There's not many coaches without a contact
This guy would be fun
