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All Blacks v Springboks

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    The steady decline of Springboks rugby in recent years. We often talk about the cyclical nature of sport - well, they have been trending one way.

    South Africa vs everyone since 2013
    New Zealand: played eight, lost seven, won one
    Australia: played eight, lost four, won two
    Argentina: played 11, lost three, won eight (prior to 2014 SA lost to Argentina only once)
    Wales: played seven, lost four, won three (prior to 2014 SA lost to Wales only once)
    Ireland: played five, lost three, won two
    England: played five, lost two, won three
    Scotland: played two, won two
    Italy: lost one, won two
    France played four, won four
    Japan played one, lost one – SA had never lost to Japan before

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    @taniwharugby Those are some seriously sobering stats for Bok fans! I knew it was bad, but I'd not seen it laid out that clearly.

    It would be worse, but the French have been poor for a few years, giving them at least one country they can beat reliably.

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    • SapetyviS Sapetyvi

      @taniwharugby I don't think so, a joint can easily get swollen enough without major damage. Think of an ankle sprain, it might look very bad the next morning and then be fine a week later.

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      @sapetyvi hopefully the case, add in that he tried to play on gives hope...just such a shame that a player in some form fast becoming a great has been injured half the year and could be out for a time again.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        Seems odd it is 2 full work days and he has not had a scan yet...can't get an appointment or waiting for the ACC number...

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        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        Seems odd it is 2 full work days and he has not had a scan yet...can't get an appointment or waiting for the ACC number...

        I though the same bloody thing!

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          I don't know TBH, I just know that scans sometimes have to be left until the effected area has settled, whether that means BBBR has a major, no idea.

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          @machpants said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          I don't know TBH, I just know that scans sometimes have to be left until the effected area has settled, whether that means BBBR has a major, no idea.

          Rotator cuff injuries are tricky. Last year Rieko thought he had one, but amazingly recovered. Everyone's RC gets a bit shagged over time (by 60) if they live an active life, but it doesn't need to be 100% to play high level sport. Pat Rafter went years with a dodgy RC, electing to do daily rubber band exercises rather than get it repaired surgically (six months out).

          Main thing with BBBR is that it is correctly assessed. If out till EOYT, fine so long as then 90%. Or surgery now, to be back for Super Rugby. But most definitely not rushed back quickly/too soon and reinjured requiring surgery which could have been avoided.

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            @machpants said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            I don't know TBH, I just know that scans sometimes have to be left until the effected area has settled, whether that means BBBR has a major, no idea.

            Rotator cuff injuries are tricky. Last year Rieko thought he had one, but amazingly recovered. Everyone's RC gets a bit shagged over time (by 60) if they live an active life, but it doesn't need to be 100% to play high level sport. Pat Rafter went years with a dodgy RC, electing to do daily rubber band exercises rather than get it repaired surgically (six months out).

            Main thing with BBBR is that it is correctly assessed. If out till EOYT, fine so long as then 90%. Or surgery now, to be back for Super Rugby. But most definitely not rushed back quickly/too soon and reinjured requiring surgery which could have been avoided.

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            @pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @machpants said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            I don't know TBH, I just know that scans sometimes have to be left until the effected area has settled, whether that means BBBR has a major, no idea.

            Rotator cuff injuries are tricky. Last year Rieko thought he had one, but amazingly recovered. Everyone's RC gets a bit shagged over time (by 60) if they live an active life, but it doesn't need to be 100% to play high level sport. Pat Rafter went years with a dodgy RC, electing to do daily rubber band exercises rather than get it repaired surgically (six months out).

            Main thing with BBBR is that it is correctly assessed. If out till EOYT, fine so long as then 90%. Or surgery now, to be back for Super Rugby. But most definitely not rushed back quickly/too soon and reinjured requiring surgery which could have been avoided.

            I went to a lunch a few years ago and Rafter was there. He said the amount of shoulder massaging he got each day to help him manage his RC/shoulder issues was ridiculous

            I think with Squire, Read, Whitelock and S. Barrett our lineout options are fine. Even if we lost Whitelock early and brought in either Paddy or Hemp, I think our lineout will function okay.

            The Irish game showed that Retallick (and Whitelock) are the key cogs to our work in the tight. Good time for others to step it up which I think they will.

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              When's the team named?

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                @machpants said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                I don't know TBH, I just know that scans sometimes have to be left until the effected area has settled, whether that means BBBR has a major, no idea.

                Rotator cuff injuries are tricky. Last year Rieko thought he had one, but amazingly recovered. Everyone's RC gets a bit shagged over time (by 60) if they live an active life, but it doesn't need to be 100% to play high level sport. Pat Rafter went years with a dodgy RC, electing to do daily rubber band exercises rather than get it repaired surgically (six months out).

                Main thing with BBBR is that it is correctly assessed. If out till EOYT, fine so long as then 90%. Or surgery now, to be back for Super Rugby. But most definitely not rushed back quickly/too soon and reinjured requiring surgery which could have been avoided.

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                @pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                @machpants said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                I don't know TBH, I just know that scans sometimes have to be left until the effected area has settled, whether that means BBBR has a major, no idea.

                Rotator cuff injuries are tricky. Last year Rieko thought he had one, but amazingly recovered. Everyone's RC gets a bit shagged over time (by 60) if they live an active life, but it doesn't need to be 100% to play high level sport. Pat Rafter went years with a dodgy RC, electing to do daily rubber band exercises rather than get it repaired surgically (six months out).

                Main thing with BBBR is that it is correctly assessed. If out till EOYT, fine so long as then 90%. Or surgery now, to be back for Super Rugby. But most definitely not rushed back quickly/too soon and reinjured requiring surgery which could have been avoided.

                I tore a RC muscle a few years back ,

                Still gives me problems now

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @jk not only that, but he was slower than @MN5

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                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                  @jk not only that, but he was slower than @MN5

                  Mentally or physically?

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                    @jk not only that, but he was slower than @MN5

                    Mentally or physically?

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                    @jk Yes

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                    • P pakman

                      When's the team named?

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                      @pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                      When's the team named?

                      Already named

                      J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Barrett, S. Whitelock, L. Whitelock, M. Todd, K. Read...

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                        When's the team named?

                        Already named

                        J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Barrett, S. Whitelock, L. Whitelock, M. Todd, K. Read...

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                        @act-crusader Is J. Taufua still injured?

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                          @ACT-Crusader you get a like not only for your dad joke but the way you have persistently repeated the same dad joke over and over and over. Well played, your family must think you are an absolute riot.

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            @ACT-Crusader you get a like not only for your dad joke but the way you have persistently repeated the same dad joke over and over and over. Well played, your family must think you are an absolute riot.

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                            @no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @ACT-Crusader you get a like not only for your dad joke but the way you have persistently repeated the same dad joke over and over and over. Well played, your family must think you are an absolute riot.

                            I’m here all week, month and year.....

                            Plenty more where those come from, wait till I get to the backline that’s a real hoot.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @act-crusader Is J. Taufua still injured?

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                                @chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                @act-crusader Is J. Taufua still injured?

                                Yep. Had to settle for a non-Crusader cantab...

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @act-crusader Is J. Taufua still injured?

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                                  @chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                  @act-crusader Is J. Taufua still injured?

                                  Too brown.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @act-crusader Is J. Taufua still injured?

                                    Too brown.

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                                    @crucial said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @act-crusader Is J. Taufua still injured?

                                    Too brown.

                                    Met our quota with Codie Taylor

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      When's the team named?

                                      Already named

                                      J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Barrett, S. Whitelock, L. Whitelock, M. Todd, K. Read...

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                                      @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      When's the team named?

                                      Already named

                                      J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Barrett, S. Whitelock, L. Whitelock, M. Todd, K. Read...

                                      Moody is injured ... T. Perry ...

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                                        @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                        When's the team named?

                                        Already named

                                        J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Barrett, S. Whitelock, L. Whitelock, M. Todd, K. Read...

                                        Moody is injured ... T. Perry ...

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                                        @booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                        @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                        When's the team named?

                                        Already named

                                        J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Barrett, S. Whitelock, L. Whitelock, M. Todd, K. Read...

                                        Moody is injured ... T. Perry ...

                                        You must be an accountant or an actuary?!

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