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All Blacks v Springboks

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    I assume Vermeulen isn't in the tour party?

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    @bovidae He was never in the 2018 Springboks squad due to contractual issues with his Japanese club. I thought they had sorted it, but apparently not (SARU don't mention him at all). Last weekend, he was still in Japan.

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

      @nepia Pearce off, you said he barely performs at super level, which is a load of shit. As I said, he's often very good, plus has been good for the ABs. Or are you going to make stuff up and say he's also poor for the ABs?

      If you've got a problem with him being selected, who's your selection?

      I don't have an alternative selection, as I said the gap is just big between the top two and the rest. I hope he plays better than Harris has been.

      FFS, disagreeing with your fluffing of him isn't making things up. He's played two tests for the ABs and less than 30 minutes in total, hardly enough to make a judgement.

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      @nepia you said you'd be happy except Coltman has been selected. So you'd rather they didn't drop Harris, or they selected someone else?

      You also said he barely performs at super level, which was utter bollocks.

      And now I'm fluffing by calling you on bullshit? Yuh huh.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @nepia you said you'd be happy except Coltman has been selected. So you'd rather they didn't drop Harris, or they selected someone else?

        You also said he barely performs at super level, which was utter bollocks.

        And now I'm fluffing by calling you on bullshit? Yuh huh.

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        @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        @nepia you said you'd be happy except Coltman has been selected. So you'd rather they didn't drop Harris, or they selected someone else?

        You also said he barely performs at super level, which was utter bollocks.

        And now I'm fluffing by calling you on bullshit? Yuh huh.

        No, the two of them are even - basically I'm not happy either way and I get to piss of BoP and Coltman fans in the process.

        He's not a stand out at Super level, his performances don't scream 'pick me' for the ABs. You may think different but that's just your opinion and it differs from mine.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @nepia you said you'd be happy except Coltman has been selected. So you'd rather they didn't drop Harris, or they selected someone else?

          You also said he barely performs at super level, which was utter bollocks.

          And now I'm fluffing by calling you on bullshit? Yuh huh.

          No, the two of them are even - basically I'm not happy either way and I get to piss of BoP and Coltman fans in the process.

          He's not a stand out at Super level, his performances don't scream 'pick me' for the ABs. You may think different but that's just your opinion and it differs from mine.

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          @nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

          Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

            Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

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            @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            @nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

            Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

            I'll have to be very specific with my language next time.

            Agreed on Harris, he's quite a good wing for the Chiefs.

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            • boobooB booboo

              @nzzp said in All Blacks v Springboks:

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks:

              I know they have protocols and will have access to good medical advice, but I'd of been tempted to give Crotty and Cane the rest of TRC off.

              Respectfully, this is classic Fern/Internet/Media naval gazing. I'm not having a pop at you - aimless speculation is what we're here for - but I'm OK with their call.

              it's kind of: I know they have all the medical records and specialists giving us advice, but I think they are WRONG! It's a small step to THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU VACCINATE! WAKE UP SHEEPLE! YOUR GOVERNMENT IS LYING TO YOU!

              There's a joke about boats but I can't think of it ...

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              @booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks v Springboks:

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks:

              I know they have protocols and will have access to good medical advice, but I'd of been tempted to give Crotty and Cane the rest of TRC off.

              Respectfully, this is classic Fern/Internet/Media naval gazing. I'm not having a pop at you - aimless speculation is what we're here for - but I'm OK with their call.

              it's kind of: I know they have all the medical records and specialists giving us advice, but I think they are WRONG! It's a small step to THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU VACCINATE! WAKE UP SHEEPLE! YOUR GOVERNMENT IS LYING TO YOU!

              There's a joke about boats but I can't think of it ...

              More likely to be about sailors seamen

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              • BonesB Bones

                @nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

                Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

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                @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                @nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

                Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

                Touching on that.....I genuinely think NMS has had a more dramatic fall than Rokokoko/Cullen.....thoughts on this? They went from being freaks to being merely ok. He's taken a much bigger tumble from a lower height.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                  @nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

                  Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

                  Touching on that.....I genuinely think NMS has had a more dramatic fall than Rokokoko/Cullen.....thoughts on this? They went from being freaks to being merely ok. He's taken a much bigger tumble from a lower height.

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                  @mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                  @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                  @nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

                  Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

                  Touching on that.....I genuinely think NMS has had a more dramatic fall than Rokokoko/Cullen.....thoughts on this? They went from being freaks to being merely ok. He's taken a much bigger tumble from a lower height.

                  ... and managed to get picked for the ABs! Mind you, so did Savea for a logn time, and he'd be up there in terms of loss of form.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                    @nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

                    Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

                    Touching on that.....I genuinely think NMS has had a more dramatic fall than Rokokoko/Cullen.....thoughts on this? They went from being freaks to being merely ok. He's taken a much bigger tumble from a lower height.

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                    @mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                    @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                    @nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

                    Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

                    Touching on that.....I genuinely think NMS has had a more dramatic fall than Rokokoko/Cullen.....thoughts on this? They went from being freaks to being merely ok. He's taken a much bigger tumble from a lower height.

                    How many games has he actually played in the last 3 years? I would put this down to injuries wrecking a career rather than a form falling off a cliff.

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                      He also had one of the most meteoric rises too. He had one awesome Super campaign that elevated him into the ABs. I actually think that Andre Taylor was better in his break out Super season and it didn't carry him into the ABs.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        Interestingly, given the discussion?bitch fest below, i just got an email from Rugby News (fuck knows why, i haven't had a subscription in 10 years?) and they are talking about a Drederick Tatum Ian Jones article about the 5 players we need fit for the World Cup next year.

                        One of the first names that popped in to my head was Taylor, and given the preview, he appears to be one of them.

                        If it was my article
                        Retallic
                        Read
                        Taylor
                        A Smith
                        Cane/Whitelock

                        They are the only guys i can think of that don't really have adequate replacements

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                        @mariner4life
                        Moody
                        Taylor
                        Franks
                        Whitelock
                        Read

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          He also had one of the most meteoric rises too. He had one awesome Super campaign that elevated him into the ABs. I actually think that Andre Taylor was better in his break out Super season and it didn't carry him into the ABs.

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                          @nepia disagree. Taylor was a hungus. NMS was something special in 2015.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @nepia disagree. Taylor was a hungus. NMS was something special in 2015.

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                            @kiwimurph said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @nepia disagree. Taylor was a hungus. NMS was something special in 2015.

                            I liked Taylor but he didn’t have that skill execution that NMS has shown. Taylor and Masaga were awesome at Super level but they rarely passed the nut.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                              @nepia barely performing as opposed to screaming pick me are quite opposite ends of the spectrum I'd say.

                              Slightly different note, as Harris can't throw in, he can just take NMS spot on the wing.

                              I'll have to be very specific with my language next time.

                              Agreed on Harris, he's quite a good wing for the Chiefs.

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                              @nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                              Agreed on Harris, he's quite a good wing for the Chiefs.

                              Except he makes Kata look like Conrad Smith with his passing.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @nepia disagree. Taylor was a hungus. NMS was something special in 2015.

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                                @kiwimurph said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                @nepia disagree. Taylor was a hungus. NMS was something special in 2015.

                                Hey, I'm the chief hungus assigner in this place! :pouting_face:

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @mariner4life
                                  Moody
                                  Taylor
                                  Franks
                                  Whitelock
                                  Read

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                                  @act-crusader good when you canput a new twist on an old joke

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @nepia Yes, ex CBHS captain.

                                    Agree, there is the opportunity to find a good young 3rd hooker.

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                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @nepia Yes, ex CBHS captain.

                                    Agree, there is the opportunity to find a good young 3rd hooker.

                                    Asafo Aumua, I hope.

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                                      Can NMS play hooker , whats his lineout throwing like ?

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                                        Some useless pregame stats for starting 15.

                                        Franks, Whitelock, Read, Smithx2 (462) have more caps than the entire SA starting 15(426).

                                        NZ forward pack (454), SA (191)

                                        NZ has 7x 50+ tests. SA have 1

                                        NZ has 3x 100+ tests, SA have 0

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                                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                          Can NMS play hooker , whats his lineout throwing like ?

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                          Can NMS play hooker , whats his lineout throwing like ?

                                          wouldn't work, we like our hookers to be quite quick

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