All Blacks v Springboks
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@hooroo said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
No it doesn't mean you jump two places it means you get two points.
Righto. Another win for Argie could see them usurp France which would be amusing.
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Righto. Another win for Argie could see them usurp France which would be amusing.
if Argie managed ot beat us in a fortnight, and SA beat Aus, Argies would jump above Aus too
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Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Can confirm.
I read it on the Oracle of all good things news, Stuff.co.nz
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
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@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
WOW!!! I know they are trucking along poorly but 15 from 36!
Imagine if that was the AB's record over the same period. There would be a coup!!!
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@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
To be fair, I would actually rather look forward to a test v Aussie where I was a bit nervous about the result
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
This would be their lowest since the official rankings then. Scotland got to 5th last year which was their highest ranking but woulda been higher in 91 when they finished 4th in the WC.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Jordie to kick long range. Sorted.
yea, relying on JB composure, what could possibly go wrong?
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Jordie to kick long range. Sorted.
yea, relying on JB composure, what could possibly go wrong?
It was Jordie's composure against the Lions that got him the jumper in the first place. He shat the bed in that SA test - I reckon his feet should be firmly planted on the ground again now - so hopefully he goes back to doing the basics.
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@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
This would be their lowest since the official rankings then. Scotland got to 5th last year which was their highest ranking but woulda been higher in 91 when they finished 4th in the WC.
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
This would be their lowest since the official rankings then. Scotland got to 5th last year which was their highest ranking but woulda been higher in 91 when they finished 4th in the WC.
Whereabouts are you getting rankings prior to 2003 from?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.It's the reason we've played a Bledisloe fixture every year for almost forty years, to raise their standard and interest. I reckon it's got to the point that's no longer helpful.
Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
The problem is the pole smokers (Possum Head etc.) have largely moved on as great as it is to see them (ARU) get their comeuppance. The worry is what does this mean for the continuation of our revenue; Super and the Championship?
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@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Jordie to kick long range. Sorted.
yea, relying on JB composure, what could possibly go wrong?
It was Jordie's composure against the Lions that got him the jumper in the first place. He shat the bed in that SA test - I reckon his feet should be firmly planted on the ground again now - so hopefully he goes back to doing the basics.
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Jordie to kick long range. Sorted.
yea, relying on JB composure, what could possibly go wrong?
It was Jordie's composure against the Lions that got him the jumper in the first place. He shat the bed in that SA test - I reckon his feet should be firmly planted on the ground again now - so hopefully he goes back to doing the basics.
Is that correct? I don't recall him being super composed in that match (but he played well) and wouldn't his more recent play in 2018 have got him the jumper (he's played in 4 tests in 2018)?
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
This would be their lowest since the official rankings then. Scotland got to 5th last year which was their highest ranking but woulda been higher in 91 when they finished 4th in the WC.
Whereabouts are you getting rankings prior to 2003 from?
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
This would be their lowest since the official rankings then. Scotland got to 5th last year which was their highest ranking but woulda been higher in 91 when they finished 4th in the WC.
Whereabouts are you getting rankings prior to 2003 from?
My arse
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Jordie to kick long range. Sorted.
yea, relying on JB composure, what could possibly go wrong?
It was Jordie's composure against the Lions that got him the jumper in the first place. He shat the bed in that SA test - I reckon his feet should be firmly planted on the ground again now - so hopefully he goes back to doing the basics.
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Jordie to kick long range. Sorted.
yea, relying on JB composure, what could possibly go wrong?
It was Jordie's composure against the Lions that got him the jumper in the first place. He shat the bed in that SA test - I reckon his feet should be firmly planted on the ground again now - so hopefully he goes back to doing the basics.
If that quick throw had bounced the right way Reiko was probably down the other end scoring a try, but yeah blind Freddie could see there were 2 or 3 springboks there ready to pounce and it was very high risk.
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@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.It's the reason we've played a Bledisloe fixture every year for almost forty years, to raise their standard and interest. I reckon it's got to the point that's no longer helpful.
Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
The problem is the pole smokers (Possum Head etc.) have largely moved on as great as it is to see them (ARU) get their comeuppance. The worry is what does this mean for the continuation of our revenue; Super and the Championship?
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.It's the reason we've played a Bledisloe fixture every year for almost forty years, to raise their standard and interest. I reckon it's got to the point that's no longer helpful.
Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
The problem is the pole smokers (Possum Head etc.) have largely moved on as great as it is to see them (ARU) get their comeuppance. The worry is what does this mean for the continuation of our revenue; Super and the Championship?
Maybe this is pretty much their level and they should accept the early 2000s were an aberration and work from there? For most of their history about from blips in the early 90s and 2000s they’ve been decidedly average and competing with the afl and nrl hasn’t helped.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Were there irb rankings back in the 70s?
They were absolutely dogshit in the 70s , in his book Kirky questioned the value of bothering to play them as a warm up to a tour because they were so awful.Are we supposed to be magnanimous about their slide or is it cool to get into some schadenfreude ?
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
Stephen Larkham I reckon
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Jordie to kick long range. Sorted.
yea, relying on JB composure, what could possibly go wrong?
It was Jordie's composure against the Lions that got him the jumper in the first place. He shat the bed in that SA test - I reckon his feet should be firmly planted on the ground again now - so hopefully he goes back to doing the basics.
Is that correct? I don't recall him being super composed in that match (but he played well) and wouldn't his more recent play in 2018 have got him the jumper (he's played in 4 tests in 2018)?
@nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Jordie to kick long range. Sorted.
yea, relying on JB composure, what could possibly go wrong?
It was Jordie's composure against the Lions that got him the jumper in the first place. He shat the bed in that SA test - I reckon his feet should be firmly planted on the ground again now - so hopefully he goes back to doing the basics.
Is that correct? I don't recall him being super composed in that match (but he played well) and wouldn't his more recent play in 2018 have got him the jumper (he's played in 4 tests in 2018)?
Well it's pretty subjective but my recollection was that he was amazingly composed given his age and the pressure cooker environment of the deciding test. Looked made for test footy. I do wonder if his continued selection led to a bit of over-confidence, hence throwing that ball, so hoping that brings him down to earth.
Worth remembering he scored a pretty awesome try, beautiful line while taking the ball behind him without losing any pace. Some costly brain farts but it wasn't the worst performance ever.
ALB has come away pretty unscathed given he cost us 14 points himself while creating 0 so I'll chuck his name out there again...
