Interesting reads
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I sympathise with them fatties though, i fucking love food. and beer. and wine.
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@mariner4life said in Interesting reads:
I sympathise with them fatties though, i fucking love food. and beer. and wine.
That's it, we all love that stuff also laying around watching movies, playing video games etc. The amount of times I've had a larger person say I've got it so easy with 'good genes'..well those genes don't get me to the gym 5 days a week and make me watch what I eat.
Far be it for me to judge the journalistic integrity of the Huffpo..but that seems like a huge load of bollocks. The anecdotal evidence of morbidly obese people who eat healthy and are active..well I call BS. I've known people to claim the same crap but when you dig a little deeper their 'regular' exercise is 'last week on the exercycle..had to miss this week as I had way too much work on..or too hungover' and their healthy eating is salads for lunch all week but anything goes on weekends or any night I work late.
Articles like this serve to push the idea that people are not responsible for their own lives. There is an absolute wealth of information out there on nutrition and weight loss but many simply just want to take shortcuts and avoid exercise at all costs hence the dumb-as-all-hell crash diets.
Staying healthy is damn hard and it isn't just a project with a start and end date, it is a lifestyle commitment.
There is a lot of talk about 'fat shaming' well what about shaming friends, loved ones and medical professionals for actually caring that you may be eating yourself to death?
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It references that song I believe, my mate had a job that involved wearing earmuffs most of the day . He used to sing it while everyone was getting their overalls etc on so that his co workers would have it stuck in their head all day.
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jegga said:
@rembrandt for you to judge the journalistic integrity of the huff post wouldn’t they have to have some to judge in the first place?
Well I was being a little more tactful than my initial impulse
"Ah the Huffpo, almost as much journalistic integrity as my regular as clockwork 11am daily dump"
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But again, some of the comments on this thread go to the issue of the debate - just saying 'have some discipline and put down the donut' doesn't work.
There is now a large body of evidence (pardon the pun) that diets don't really work. Or not the way we are currently doing them. It's incredibly unlikely that you will lose weight and keep it off for a long period of time.
Yes, willpower plays a role, but there are other genetic and biological factors at play too.
There has been billions of dollars spent on advertising and education about the benefits of healthy lifestyles. And yet this fact remains:
Since 1980, the obesity rate has doubled in 73 countries and increased in 113 others. And in all that time, no nation has reduced its obesity rate. Not one.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that fat people need to be lauded, or celebrated, or that they shouldn't try and lose weight and live a healthier lifestyle.
It's a problem for Government, but also the medical profession, the food industry, the diet industry and many more.
But there needs to be an acceptance that our current approach to the issue isn't really working, from top to tail.
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At no time in our history has food been as available, as cheap and as calorie dense.
The reason diets don't work is because people don't stick to them. They see them as temporary. I dieted. I lost weight. Now I'll go back to eating the way I did before I dieted. And they blame the diet for not working.
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barbarian said:
Since 1980, the obesity rate has doubled in 73 countries and increased in 113 others. And in all that time, no nation has reduced its obesity rate. Not one.
I'd argue that at no other point in recent history have people been encouraged as much as they are now to place the responsibility of their own lives on others.
Obesity is the unanticipated consequence of the overwhelming success of capitalism..still this is at the expense of starvation so on balance probably a better situation to contend with.
We could of course continue the ideological trajectory of placing responsibility of our lives to the state, that too would bring down the obesity rate for sure.
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barbarian said:
But again, some of the comments on this thread go to the issue of the debate - just saying 'have some discipline and put down the donut' doesn't work.
There is now a large body of evidence (pardon the pun) that diets don't really work. Or not the way we are currently doing them. It's incredibly unlikely that you will lose weight and keep it off for a long period of time.
Yes, willpower plays a role, but there are other genetic and biological factors at play too.
There has been billions of dollars spent on advertising and education about the benefits of healthy lifestyles. And yet this fact remains:
Since 1980, the obesity rate has doubled in 73 countries and increased in 113 others. And in all that time, no nation has reduced its obesity rate. Not one.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that fat people need to be lauded, or celebrated, or that they shouldn't try and lose weight and live a healthier lifestyle.
It's a problem for Government, but also the medical profession, the food industry, the diet industry and many more.
But there needs to be an acceptance that our current approach to the issue isn't really working, from top to tail.
I see what you're trying to do here and normalising obesity isn't necessarily going to help the amount of front rowers available for your super rugby teams.
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mariner4life said:
I sympathise with them fatties though, i fucking love food. and beer. and wine.
I agree, we shouldn't be too harsh on them, they've already got enough on their plate.
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taniwharugby said:
Like you say, it's like smokers, until they really want to do it, they are wasting everyones time.
mariner4life said:
I sympathise with them fatties though, i fucking love food. and beer. and wine.
I 'm quoting both of these as I think they both are on the mark.
Morbidly obese people have the same issues as alcoholics, drug addicts etc. It's a mental illness.
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If, like me, you have spent too much money at Ticketmaster and similar ticket sellers over the years, this is worth reading. I know that in NZ companies like viagogo have had plenty of scrutiny for ripping fans off but what about the ticket agents themselves? Many have suspected this was happening with the introduction of Ticketmaster resale so if in North American why not here?
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@Bovidae I went to get tickets to Bruno Mars when he came to Auckland about an hour after they became available. Found they were completely sold out, but there were already heaps of tickets available on "resale" for 2 or 3 times the price. It's complete bullshit and Ticketek/Ticketmaster do fuck all to stop people scamming the system. That they would be aiding the scammers is entirely believable seeing as they take a cut on the resales.
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No Quarter said:
@Bovidae I went to get tickets to Bruno Mars when he came to Auckland about an hour after they became available. Found they were completely sold out, but there were already heaps of tickets available on "resale" for 2 or 3 times the price. It's complete bullshit and Ticketek/Ticketmaster do fuck all to stop people scamming the system. That they would be aiding the scammers is entirely believable seeing as they take a cut on the resales.
Sites like Trademe don't help either. I'm sure, if they wanted to reduce the problem, they could
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@no-quarter If you have a spare 40 mins watch the video in the article. They give some interesting insights about the industry and answer questions.
In NZ, even presales don't give you access to the best seats.
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@jegga Thanks. Trip down memory lane for me, the amazing war story aside.
Have flown in and around most of the places mentioned. Even had a mate with bullet holes in his twin otter and his crewman hit after being in Buka. Bougainville independence stuff and the PNG government had just sent in a load of mercenaries which upset the "freedom fighters" who shot at aircraft.
Dobodura would be Girua now I think and the Japanese major air base was Rabaul of course, which was buried back in '94 along with my suitcase (never trust a volcano).You might like this Jeg:
Just flying, not war, but a part of history now. The author is also a mate of mine and I thought it was good read (I am biased).
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Snowy said:
@jegga Thanks. Trip down memory lane for me, the amazing war story aside.
Have flown in and around most of the places mentioned. Even had a mate with bullet holes in his twin otter and his crewman hit after being in Buka. Bougainville independence stuff and the PNG government had just sent in a load of mercenaries which upset the "freedom fighters" who shot at aircraft.
Dobodura would be Girua now I think and the Japanese major air base was Rabaul of course, which was buried back in '94 along with my suitcase (never trust a volcano).You might like this Jeg:
Just flying, not war, but a part of history now. The author is also a mate of mine and I thought it was good read (I am biased).
Cheers. That looks good , I might recommend that to a mate too . He lived there for a couple of years in the early 70s when his dad tried to set up a cassowary farm .
He told me that the local bush pilots were still flying a JU52 . The French and Spanish made some post war knock off versions of their own so it could even have been one of those ? Either way a cool bit of aviation history.
How long were you in PNG for ?