European Club Rugby
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@billy-tell said in NH club rugby:
Proper red card that one
Bastareaud was initially handed a six-week suspension for the incident which was increased by one-week due to his disciplinary record, but because of the extenuating circumstances (recognition of guilt, conduct before and during the hearing, and expression of remorse), the penalty was reduced by 2 weeks. The ban means the 29-year-old will miss Toulon's next five fixtures and will be available for France's November tests against South Africa, Argentina, and Fiji. Bastareaud's chequered disciplinary record includes a suspension for using homophobic slurs against Benetton's Sebastian Negri in a Champions Cup game at the start of the year. -
So let me get this correct; he has a poor disciplinary record so he ends up with a week less than the original suspension?
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wow, look, it's 7 weeks until France's first test
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@antipodean But he said sorry!
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@antipodean Without his bad disciplinary record, he would probably have his suspension reduced by 50% to 3 weeks, as they do in all cases where they can tick off the whole list of mitigating factors. In his case, there was an aggravating factor (his bad record), so he got a week more, before taking a few mitigating factors into account (the reduction of 2 weeks). So in fact, he got 2 weeks more than he would have got without his bad disciplinary record.
This decision is also consistent with similar decisions, for example, the suspension handed out to Chance Peni after his high tackle on Israel Dagg in the Brumbies v Crusaders game.
I have no problem with this procedure, as it enhances consistency. I do, however, question the mid-range entry point of 6 weeks. What do players have to do before they apply the high-end entry point of 10 weeks?
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The whole point of having low, mid and high entry points negates mitigating issues. The idea you "show remorse" and get a reduction is a joke.
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I have the rugby channel free for 3 months (I also think the normal sky channels are showing the European clubs comps now rather than them all being ghetoised on the rugby channel).
Anyway, the last few weeks this is the first time I have watched French club rugby (I just mysky the highlights show).
I found myself fast forwarding through this half hour highlights show last time as it's just really dull rugby. Pick and go tries, maul tries.
Also the teams all have bland kits that I can't remember who's playing who, boring Cell-C Sharks/Western Force look-a-likes.Conversely. I find the English Premiership show really good, and the tries & action last week were great, and the show was slick. And I can tell a Northampton/Leicester/Quins or Gloucester etc instantly just by their kits.
Zach Mercer looked excellent in the little highlights I saw last round. I remember seeing him in the JWC a few years ago and thinking he looked the wrong size and shape for an English No8. But he's bulked up a bit and was a beast and also skillful (he scored a great stepping try)
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@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
The whole point of having low, mid and high entry points negates mitigating issues. The idea you "show remorse" and get a reduction is a joke.
the only way that could be shown to be applicable is if we had players coming out and saying "nah, i think that guy is a fuckwit, so i whacked him. Fuck that guy".
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I see the Cheetahs held Ulster to a 39 all draw overnight. That's a remarkable improvement by the Cheetahs who now take their record to played 4, lost 3 drawn 1. Points for = 77 points against = 175. It still leaves them in last place mind you. What is surprising is that Ulster were leading their Pro 14 Division and had to rely on an injury time Henry Speight try (which was converted) to avoid the ultimate indignity!
Needless to day but the Kings have a very similar record going into the fourth round with three straight losses.
Looks like nothing much has changed for both teams.
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Higgins said:
I see the Cheetahs held Ulster to a 39 all draw overnight. That's a remarkable improvement by the Cheetahs who now take their record to played 4, lost 3 drawn 1. Points for = 77 points against = 175. It still leaves them in last place mind you. What is surprising is that Ulster were leading their Pro 14 Division and had to rely on an injury time Henry Speight try (which was converted) to avoid the ultimate indignity!
Needless to day but the Kings have a very similar record going into the fourth round with three straight losses.
Looks like nothing much has changed for both teams.
Last season, Cheetahs performed well given their starting point and made the playoff finals. Whilst their squad is split across playing in Currie Cup and PRO14 then they’ll be at a disadvantage. SARU have said they’re going to change timing along with the planned Cull & Draft Strategy.
Kings were poor last season and looked like they would continue where they left off this season. However, Davids has been getting improvements each week and yesterday they pulled off a deserved home victory 38-28 over Glasgow whose forwards were mainly second starters but a first starting backline. Small steps but heading in the right direction.
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VIDEO: Player’s giant brother confronts Julian Savea - france
A giant fan - said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou - invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.
A giant fan – said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou – invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.
Savea was yellow carded and the brother was taken away by security, although he seemed to be going fairly mental as he left.
Why not let him stay and fight Savea?
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taniwharugby said:
VIDEO: Player’s giant brother confronts Julian Savea - france
A giant fan - said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou - invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.
A giant fan – said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou – invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.
Savea was yellow carded and the brother was taken away by security, although he seemed to be going fairly mental as he left.
Why not let him stay and fight Savea?
French club rugby ca be quite confrontational.
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taniwharugby said:
VIDEO: Player’s giant brother confronts Julian Savea - france
A giant fan - said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou - invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.
A giant fan – said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou – invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.
Savea was yellow carded and the brother was taken away by security, although he seemed to be going fairly mental as he left.
Why not let him stay and fight Savea?
Fat boy vs trained athlete.
That's an easy ban for the authorities.
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I went to a game recently (Section Paloise vs Stade Francais). It was just as bad in real life.
Slow. Lots of bad kicking. Obvious backline plays.
And players who had been better than that in the Southern Hemisphere (Slade, B Stanley, Mogg) were no better.
It's worse than 1st XVs in NZ in terms of style of play.
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The 10 minute period I watched, they just kept dropping the ball.
Maybe it's confirmation bias. As I've said earlier in the thread, I've never watched Top 14 until this season. I was expecting it to be slow from what I've read over the years. But I'm prepared to accept that if the league and occasion has passion and tradition etc as it can still make for good viewing. Even so, I'm surprised how dull the stuff I've seen so far has been.
And as for tradition, the match I watched yesterday - the reason I kept watching for a bit was to work out which team the "Tou" was that was getting spanked. (Toulon or Toulouse). I couldn't hear any commentary because open plan living is a fucking stupid idea. And "Tou" were wearing all grey with shit loads of adds. I eventually worked out it was Toulouse when they showed a close up of the coach and I could see an ST bade rather than an RCT badge on his polo.
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