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  • HigginsH Offline
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    #1169

    I see the Cheetahs held Ulster to a 39 all draw overnight. That's a remarkable improvement by the Cheetahs who now take their record to played 4, lost 3 drawn 1. Points for = 77 points against = 175. It still leaves them in last place mind you. What is surprising is that Ulster were leading their Pro 14 Division and had to rely on an injury time Henry Speight try (which was converted) to avoid the ultimate indignity!

    Needless to day but the Kings have a very similar record going into the fourth round with three straight losses.

    Looks like nothing much has changed for both teams.

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    • HigginsH Higgins

      I see the Cheetahs held Ulster to a 39 all draw overnight. That's a remarkable improvement by the Cheetahs who now take their record to played 4, lost 3 drawn 1. Points for = 77 points against = 175. It still leaves them in last place mind you. What is surprising is that Ulster were leading their Pro 14 Division and had to rely on an injury time Henry Speight try (which was converted) to avoid the ultimate indignity!

      Needless to day but the Kings have a very similar record going into the fourth round with three straight losses.

      Looks like nothing much has changed for both teams.

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      Higgins said:

      I see the Cheetahs held Ulster to a 39 all draw overnight. That's a remarkable improvement by the Cheetahs who now take their record to played 4, lost 3 drawn 1. Points for = 77 points against = 175. It still leaves them in last place mind you. What is surprising is that Ulster were leading their Pro 14 Division and had to rely on an injury time Henry Speight try (which was converted) to avoid the ultimate indignity!

      Needless to day but the Kings have a very similar record going into the fourth round with three straight losses.

      Looks like nothing much has changed for both teams.

      Last season, Cheetahs performed well given their starting point and made the playoff finals. Whilst their squad is split across playing in Currie Cup and PRO14 then they’ll be at a disadvantage. SARU have said they’re going to change timing along with the planned Cull & Draft Strategy.

      Kings were poor last season and looked like they would continue where they left off this season. However, Davids has been getting improvements each week and yesterday they pulled off a deserved home victory 38-28 over Glasgow whose forwards were mainly second starters but a first starting backline. Small steps but heading in the right direction.

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        #1171

        https://rugby365.com/countries/france/video-players-giant-brother-confronts-julian-savea/

        A giant fan – said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou – invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.

        Savea was yellow carded and the brother was taken away by security, although he seemed to be going fairly mental as he left.

        Why not let him stay and fight Savea?

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          https://rugby365.com/countries/france/video-players-giant-brother-confronts-julian-savea/

          A giant fan – said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou – invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.

          Savea was yellow carded and the brother was taken away by security, although he seemed to be going fairly mental as he left.

          Why not let him stay and fight Savea?

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          Catogrande
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          #1172

          taniwharugby said:

          https://rugby365.com/countries/france/video-players-giant-brother-confronts-julian-savea/

          A giant fan – said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou – invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.

          Savea was yellow carded and the brother was taken away by security, although he seemed to be going fairly mental as he left.

          Why not let him stay and fight Savea?

          French club rugby ca be quite confrontational.

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          • mikedogzM Offline
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            #1173

            I remember back in the 90's Ian Jones got punched by a relation of Junior Paramore after the game.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              https://rugby365.com/countries/france/video-players-giant-brother-confronts-julian-savea/

              A giant fan – said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou – invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.

              Savea was yellow carded and the brother was taken away by security, although he seemed to be going fairly mental as he left.

              Why not let him stay and fight Savea?

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              #1174

              taniwharugby said:

              https://rugby365.com/countries/france/video-players-giant-brother-confronts-julian-savea/

              A giant fan – said to be the brother of Stade Francais player Sekou Malacou – invaded the pitch in the apparent attempt to get at Julian Savea.

              Savea was yellow carded and the brother was taken away by security, although he seemed to be going fairly mental as he left.

              Why not let him stay and fight Savea?

              Fat boy vs trained athlete. 😄

              That's an easy ban for the authorities.

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                #1175

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/107344127/Kiwi-Ben-Botica-wins-French-Top-14-player-of-the-year-award

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                  #1176

                  I'm watching a replay the on rugby channel at the moment, for the last 10 minutes. Top 14. Montpellier v Toulouse

                  This is some of the shittest rugby I've ever seen in my life.

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    I'm watching a replay the on rugby channel at the moment, for the last 10 minutes. Top 14. Montpellier v Toulouse

                    This is some of the shittest rugby I've ever seen in my life.

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                    #1177

                    @rapido I did that with Clermont and Bordeaux yesterday, couldn't believe it. Passing to blokes standing still and never offloading in tackles were among the highlights.

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                      #1178

                      Yip its shit and they wonder why the national team is not a force of running rugby.

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                        #1179

                        I went to a game recently (Section Paloise vs Stade Francais). It was just as bad in real life.

                        Slow. Lots of bad kicking. Obvious backline plays.

                        And players who had been better than that in the Southern Hemisphere (Slade, B Stanley, Mogg) were no better.

                        It's worse than 1st XVs in NZ in terms of style of play.

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                          #1180

                          The 10 minute period I watched, they just kept dropping the ball.

                          Maybe it's confirmation bias. As I've said earlier in the thread, I've never watched Top 14 until this season. I was expecting it to be slow from what I've read over the years. But I'm prepared to accept that if the league and occasion has passion and tradition etc as it can still make for good viewing. Even so, I'm surprised how dull the stuff I've seen so far has been.

                          And as for tradition, the match I watched yesterday - the reason I kept watching for a bit was to work out which team the "Tou" was that was getting spanked. (Toulon or Toulouse). I couldn't hear any commentary because open plan living is a fucking stupid idea. And "Tou" were wearing all grey with shit loads of adds. I eventually worked out it was Toulouse when they showed a close up of the coach and I could see an ST bade rather than an RCT badge on his polo.

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                          • HigginsH Offline
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                            #1181

                            Hardly surprising that it is like that given most of the overseas players are ones that have finished international rugby through "old age" or guys that were not going to progress any higher than the level they were playing at. Prime example Jamie MacIntosh still playing professionally when the was not even wanted at Mitre10 level by Southland

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                              #1182

                              A big performance from Lima Sopoaga for Wasps yesterday:

                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45640906

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                                A big performance from Lima Sopoaga for Wasps yesterday:

                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45640906

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                                #1183

                                @sparky they chose a really odd headline.

                                Lima Sopoaga kicks Wasps to narrow 23-22 win at Newcastle

                                He kicked 1/3 on conversions and 2 penalties while missing at least one.

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                                  taniwharugby
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1184

                                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/107496411/rugby-set-to-adopt-global-12team-test-championship-with-plans-for-a-second-division

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                                    @sparky they chose a really odd headline.

                                    Lima Sopoaga kicks Wasps to narrow 23-22 win at Newcastle

                                    He kicked 1/3 on conversions and 2 penalties while missing at least one.

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                                    #1185

                                    @bones Lima Sopoaga set up Josh Bassett and Marcus Watson for their tries and hit the winning penalty from 45m. He was the match-winner for Wasps.

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                                      wrote on last edited by Rapido
                                      #1186

                                      My struggles with the Top 14 highlights show continues.

                                      While still having to concentrate much more than expected to work out which team is which.

                                      I also have to second guess who the players are due to garbled pronunciations. Charles Nigger-tie had an impressive game this week.

                                      I genuinely don't know if some of these Polynesian guys scoring all these tries are players I've surprisingly never heard of, maybe French Polynesians, or ex-hurricanes with slightly shaggier hair and a new name.

                                      I'm not sure who the target audience is for this show.

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                                        Rapido
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                                        #1187

                                        Worcester were either going to go bust or get sold this year. Sold it is..

                                        They now have a new owner: http://warriors.co.uk/2018/10/01/worcester-warriors-announce-new-ownership/

                                        May be a speculative play for some of that Private Equity money if EPR sell 50% of their easy money for a quick upfront fix. I just don't see Worcester as being viable going forward without a dramatic change.

                                        A reminder on their Finances.

                                        2017 Finances:
                                        Turnover £10.8m
                                        Borrowings/investment by owner: Loans £26m
                                        Wage bill £11m (101% of turnover)
                                        Loss before tax £8m

                                        They tried to sell a year ago for £26m, which was basically the amount of their debt at the time.

                                        Sep 18, 2017: Worcester Warriors' owner ready to sell club for £26.7m | The Times.

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                                          #1188

                                          Chickens coming home to roost

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