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  • CrucialC Crucial

    Any wonder this sport has a credibility problem?

    If you don’t want to look like thugs and scum maybe stop behaving like thugs and scum.?

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    @crucial What credibility problem? Who says? The product speaks for itself doesn't it? You either like it not, no?

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    • SiamS Siam

      That reaction by Khabib et al. was pretty fucken bad in terms of a massive Fuck You to the conventions and authority of professional fighting.

      This was pure rage and disrespect, no showboating at all, raw narcissism.

      UFC will have to react strongly.

      If it were me, I'd ban him and team for 2 years, soak up the overreaction with a straight face, reduce the ban to one year in 6 months, ensure Conor gets 60 million and start up the rumour mill for a PPV rematch at ban's end.

      Either way those nasty Russian boys need a decent example set as a deterrent for the future

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      @siam said in UFC:

      That reaction by Khabib et al. was pretty fucken bad in terms of a massive Fuck You to the conventions and authority of professional fighting.

      This was pure rage and disrespect, no showboating at all, raw narcissism.

      Which is EXACTLY why people watch UFC.

      UFC will have to react strongly.

      In order to maintain licenses etc, yes they will.

      If it were me, I'd ban him and team for 2 years, soak up the overreaction with a straight face, reduce the ban to one year in 6 months, ensure Conor gets 60 million and start up the rumour mill for a PPV rematch at ban's end.

      60 mill to Conor? For what exactly? Getting his arse kicked?

      Khabib, rightly, can claim the higher purse for the rematch. He owned him.

      Either way those nasty Russian boys need a decent example set as a deterrent for the future

      For licenses, yes. However, I think this reaction is pretty much so perfect marketing for UFC.

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        #396

        The sanction will be decided by the Nevada state athletic commission, not the UFC

        Although the UFC could do something on top of it

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          Any wonder this sport has a credibility problem?

          If you don’t want to look like thugs and scum maybe stop behaving like thugs and scum.?

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          @crucial said in UFC:

          Any wonder this sport has a credibility problem?

          If you don’t want to look like thugs and scum maybe stop behaving like thugs and scum.?

          There's more illegal incidents in a weekends rugby, than there has been in the entire UFC history (outside drug testing, of course).

          UFC is incredibly violent, but for the most part the product is pretty well policed.

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            #398

            By credibility, I mean credibility outside of fans.
            I get asked often 'why don't you like it?' and can easily point the finger at this shit as a reason.

            I totally get that it is a calculated audience and what turns some off turns others on.

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            • MajorPomM MajorPom

              @siam said in UFC:

              That reaction by Khabib et al. was pretty fucken bad in terms of a massive Fuck You to the conventions and authority of professional fighting.

              This was pure rage and disrespect, no showboating at all, raw narcissism.

              Which is EXACTLY why people watch UFC.

              UFC will have to react strongly.

              In order to maintain licenses etc, yes they will.

              If it were me, I'd ban him and team for 2 years, soak up the overreaction with a straight face, reduce the ban to one year in 6 months, ensure Conor gets 60 million and start up the rumour mill for a PPV rematch at ban's end.

              60 mill to Conor? For what exactly? Getting his arse kicked?

              Khabib, rightly, can claim the higher purse for the rematch. He owned him.

              Either way those nasty Russian boys need a decent example set as a deterrent for the future

              For licenses, yes. However, I think this reaction is pretty much so perfect marketing for UFC.

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              @majorrage conor got 50 mil for this one, another 10 to make sure he fronts, if he doesn't then the whole rematch pay day flies. Anyway, that was my fantasy manager projection 😁

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                By credibility, I mean credibility outside of fans.
                I get asked often 'why don't you like it?' and can easily point the finger at this shit as a reason.

                I totally get that it is a calculated audience and what turns some off turns others on.

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                Siam
                wrote on last edited by
                #400

                @crucial said in UFC:

                By credibility, I mean credibility outside of fans.
                I get asked often 'why don't you like it?' and can easily point the finger at this shit as a reason.

                I totally get that it is a calculated audience and what turns some off turns others on.

                Oh come on 80 year old Ethel from Takapuna, you waded in and referenced the entire sport as "thugs and scum" and now you speak for a billion non fans who all agree there is a credibility problem with the sport!?

                Just admit your first comment was meant for Stuff comments 😁 (you don't like the sport and tried to validate your opinion with a "credibility" red herring πŸ˜‰)

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                • SiamS Siam

                  @crucial said in UFC:

                  By credibility, I mean credibility outside of fans.
                  I get asked often 'why don't you like it?' and can easily point the finger at this shit as a reason.

                  I totally get that it is a calculated audience and what turns some off turns others on.

                  Oh come on 80 year old Ethel from Takapuna, you waded in and referenced the entire sport as "thugs and scum" and now you speak for a billion non fans who all agree there is a credibility problem with the sport!?

                  Just admit your first comment was meant for Stuff comments 😁 (you don't like the sport and tried to validate your opinion with a "credibility" red herring πŸ˜‰)

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                  Crucial
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                  #401

                  @siam said in UFC:

                  @crucial said in UFC:

                  By credibility, I mean credibility outside of fans.
                  I get asked often 'why don't you like it?' and can easily point the finger at this shit as a reason.

                  I totally get that it is a calculated audience and what turns some off turns others on.

                  Oh come on 80 year old Ethel from Takapuna, you waded in and referenced the entire sport as "thugs and scum" and now you speak for a billion non fans who all agree there is a credibility problem with the sport!?

                  Just admit your first comment was meant for Stuff comments 😁 (you don't like the sport and tried to validate your opinion with a "credibility" red herring πŸ˜‰)

                  Absolutely. I just think it's a thugs game and incidents like this back up my thoughts.
                  Anyone that tries to argue any credibility as a sport will get this thrown back at them and not just by me.

                  If not excusing a 'sport' that revels in this bullshit makes me a 70 year old woman then fine.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @siam said in UFC:

                    @crucial said in UFC:

                    By credibility, I mean credibility outside of fans.
                    I get asked often 'why don't you like it?' and can easily point the finger at this shit as a reason.

                    I totally get that it is a calculated audience and what turns some off turns others on.

                    Oh come on 80 year old Ethel from Takapuna, you waded in and referenced the entire sport as "thugs and scum" and now you speak for a billion non fans who all agree there is a credibility problem with the sport!?

                    Just admit your first comment was meant for Stuff comments 😁 (you don't like the sport and tried to validate your opinion with a "credibility" red herring πŸ˜‰)

                    Absolutely. I just think it's a thugs game and incidents like this back up my thoughts.
                    Anyone that tries to argue any credibility as a sport will get this thrown back at them and not just by me.

                    If not excusing a 'sport' that revels in this bullshit makes me a 70 year old woman then fine.

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                    @crucial so boxing is a thugs sport too?

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @siam said in UFC:

                      @crucial said in UFC:

                      By credibility, I mean credibility outside of fans.
                      I get asked often 'why don't you like it?' and can easily point the finger at this shit as a reason.

                      I totally get that it is a calculated audience and what turns some off turns others on.

                      Oh come on 80 year old Ethel from Takapuna, you waded in and referenced the entire sport as "thugs and scum" and now you speak for a billion non fans who all agree there is a credibility problem with the sport!?

                      Just admit your first comment was meant for Stuff comments 😁 (you don't like the sport and tried to validate your opinion with a "credibility" red herring πŸ˜‰)

                      Absolutely. I just think it's a thugs game and incidents like this back up my thoughts.
                      Anyone that tries to argue any credibility as a sport will get this thrown back at them and not just by me.

                      If not excusing a 'sport' that revels in this bullshit makes me a 70 year old woman then fine.

                      SiamS Offline
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                      Siam
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #403

                      @crucial said in UFC:

                      @siam said in UFC:

                      @crucial said in UFC:

                      By credibility, I mean credibility outside of fans.
                      I get asked often 'why don't you like it?' and can easily point the finger at this shit as a reason.

                      I totally get that it is a calculated audience and what turns some off turns others on.

                      Oh come on 80 year old Ethel from Takapuna, you waded in and referenced the entire sport as "thugs and scum" and now you speak for a billion non fans who all agree there is a credibility problem with the sport!?

                      Just admit your first comment was meant for Stuff comments 😁 (you don't like the sport and tried to validate your opinion with a "credibility" red herring πŸ˜‰)

                      Absolutely. I just think it's a thugs game and incidents like this back up my thoughts.
                      Anyone that tries to argue any credibility as a sport will get this thrown back at them and not just by me.

                      If not excusing a 'sport' that revels in this bullshit makes me a 70 year old woman then fine.

                      Player and crowd brawls after the contest indicates a sport with no credibility?

                      Club rugby's fucked then...πŸ˜€

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        Lewis gets a KO with 11secs left in the fight. Was getting his arse kicked up until until then

                        Great post fight interview as usual

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                        @duluth said in UFC:

                        Lewis gets a KO with 11secs left in the fight. Was getting his arse kicked up until until then

                        Great post fight interview as usual

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                        • SiamS Siam

                          @majorrage conor got 50 mil for this one, another 10 to make sure he fronts, if he doesn't then the whole rematch pay day flies. Anyway, that was my fantasy manager projection 😁

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                          @siam said in UFC:

                          @majorrage conor got 50 mil for this one, another 10 to make sure he fronts, if he doesn't then the whole rematch pay day flies. Anyway, that was my fantasy manager projection 😁

                          50??? It's been published as 3.

                          There ain't anywhere near the money in UFC that there is in boxing.

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                            KN did his press conference and apologised. He explained why he lost it - the goading from MacGregor about his family, religion, country - he said it was too much.

                            But he did admit he was in the wrong to do what he did. Maybe a bit manufactured in try and appease the issues he's going to face, but it did come across as sincere.

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                            • MajorPomM MajorPom

                              @siam said in UFC:

                              @majorrage conor got 50 mil for this one, another 10 to make sure he fronts, if he doesn't then the whole rematch pay day flies. Anyway, that was my fantasy manager projection 😁

                              50??? It's been published as 3.

                              There ain't anywhere near the money in UFC that there is in boxing.

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                              @majorrage said in UFC:

                              50??? It's been published as 3.

                              The 3 doesn’t include the ppv cut and other payments

                              50 was thrown around if there were huge ppv numbers (3.5mill, more likely 2mill people). So it’ll be way less than a Mayweather fight but around the same ball park as a Joshua payday

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                              • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                KN did his press conference and apologised. He explained why he lost it - the goading from MacGregor about his family, religion, country - he said it was too much.

                                But he did admit he was in the wrong to do what he did. Maybe a bit manufactured in try and appease the issues he's going to face, but it did come across as sincere.

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                                Rancid Schnitzel
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                                @majorrage said in UFC:

                                KN did his press conference and apologised. He explained why he lost it - the goading from MacGregor about his family, religion, country - he said it was too much.

                                But he did admit he was in the wrong to do what he did. Maybe a bit manufactured in try and appease the issues he's going to face, but it did come across as sincere.

                                He won the fight. That should have been enough for him. Hope he doesn't get paid and faces a long ban.

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                                  Silliest comeback from Khabib today about how McGregor "insulted his religion, insulted his country and insulted his father..." And yet he jumped out of the ring to attack someone else when the person who did all the insulting was right there in the ring with him.

                                  I totally get the hate but Khabib looks like a class A clown, along with Conor(that sneaky off camera punch is just as bad as what Khabib did).

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                                    Silliest comeback from Khabib today about how McGregor "insulted his religion, insulted his country and insulted his father..." And yet he jumped out of the ring to attack someone else when the person who did all the insulting was right there in the ring with him.

                                    I totally get the hate but Khabib looks like a class A clown, along with Conor(that sneaky off camera punch is just as bad as what Khabib did).

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                                    @raznomore said in UFC:

                                    Silliest comeback from Khabib today about how McGregor "insulted his religion, insulted his country and insulted his father..." And yet he jumped out of the ring to attack someone else when the person who did all the insulting was right there in the ring with him.

                                    I totally get the hate but Khabib looks like a class A clown, along with Conor(that sneaky off camera punch is just as bad as what Khabib did).

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      Co-main event was incredible. Both fighters causing damage, covered in blood. Ferguson with freakish cardio

                                      Shame we didn’t get a third round. Pettis broke his hand and didn’t come out after round two

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                                      @duluth this was the fight of the night for me. Pettis got the cuts etc but it was a close fight and I would have loved to have seen the 3rd. I think Pettis is an amazing fighter and I hope he gets a rematch. Ferguson is ninja.

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                                        They used the footage of Conor and his gang attacking his bus as part of the promo ,

                                        You got to wonder how much this incident is going to help them promote the next fight ,

                                        Coincidence ?

                                        not saying it was set up ,because i dont know,

                                        but if they fight again , they will get a bigger audience because of it .

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                                          Great night. Wild night.

                                          1 for 3 in EARLY PRELIMS
                                          Great KO from Martin
                                          Great finish from Lenz
                                          Fair play to Kunitskaya. Dominated

                                          2 for 4 in PRELIMS
                                          Big upset win for Holtzman
                                          Ladd fought like a lad. Wow.
                                          Turner has some silky skills, but Luque is nails
                                          Deserved win for Formiga. Pettis disappointing.

                                          2 for 5 in MAIN CARD
                                          Watterson v Herrig. Awful

                                          Volkov a very skillful tactician and if he'd pressed he would have finished Lewis inside two rounds. Paid the price for dithering.
                                          Derrick Lewis Leg End (see above)
                                          'My balls is hot' πŸ™‚

                                          Hats off to Reyes. Masterclass.

                                          Great comeback from Ferguson. Epic fight. Pettis poor bastard.

                                          Whoever Ferguson fghts next it will be a cracker.

                                          Wrote this about the title fight

                                          Conor McGregor
                                          Too quick, too powerful, too smart

                                          Got the manner, but not the man.
                                          Fair play to Khabib. His striking improved more than McG's grappling.
                                          Too good, too accurate.

                                          Bonkers finish.

                                          Who knows what will happen next?

                                          If there is a rematch it could go the way of the Diaz fights with McG working his opponent out.

                                          But at this stage Ferguson deserves next go.

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