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Nepia

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Well he is British, so who knows....although he did just say he enjoyed it, that doesnt mean he thought it was 'real'or not.
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Ah, I think I just misread the "it's the business line" - I took it literally.

Nepia

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It's the MILF version that gets you hot isn't it?
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She is by far my least favourite, I hate fringes/bangs whatever you want to call them.
 
Is anyone watching The Red Road? I was all prepared for it to be really shit due to some bad reviews but it has been ok. It has Martin Henderson and Jason Momoa in it and they're both pretty good.
 
The characterisation is a bit off at times, especially with Henderson's character and his family. The story line is a bit iffy.
 
But I think it is a watchable show that suffers because it's on Sundance and therefore is supposed to be "important". So it's not great but not as bad as the reviews I read make out.

Crucial

Got around to watching True Detective on the weekend. Probably some pros and cons in 'binge watching' this. You dont get as much time to think over or absorb some of the plot devices which is both good and bad.
That reviewer linked to earlier in the thread really has the wrong end of the stick with regards to the female characters (apart from acknowledging a nice rack). The show was always going to be male focused as the relationship between the two leads was a key to the story.I thought the female characters, while in lesser parts, actually got to show situations from their point of view.
 
[spoiler]The perplexing thing about this show is not knowing whether some of the loose ends were deliberately there for the viewer to latch onto and theorise about (red herrings) or were avenues they were exploring but didn't play out. 
A lot of emphasis was put on the daughter. The book drawings when she was young, the symbolism with the crown, the voiceover saying 'the answers are sometimes under your nose', the whole drawn out thing about underage sex. Was this there as padding or to deliberately lead us down a dead end road? 
As for the Tuttles, I don't have an issue with that not being wound up. Some endings aren't perfect. 
I guess some peoples disappointment was that it looked like it may have been playing toward a big reveal or twist that everyone was trying to guess but in the end was just normal case solving.[/spoiler]

jegga

Crucial I think the kids drawings etc were the only thing that kept Harrellson motivated to help his partner , well that's my theory

dK

On the DK watch list at the moment 
GoT - a bit meh at the moment, but good stuff is coming, so I need to stick with it 
Mad Men - last series, the redemption of Don? Who knows, will plug on with it 
Fargo - loved the movie and this has started off well. Billy Bob plays a good bad guy 
Crimson Field - BBC WW1 drama, set around a military hospital. Interesting so far. Oh and has Charlie Chaplins grand daughter for eye candy, recently seen with an arrow through the heart in GoT red wedding

NTA

Vikings is chugging along without setting the world on fire at the moment. Still enjoying it but not as much as I was. Probably due to a lack of rack.
 
Still the battles are reasonably accurate, without the bigger ones having come along yet. Its all skirmish level really.

Rancid Schnitzel

3rd episode of Silicone Valley. Not a keeper this one. In fact it can be labelled as pretty shit . Doubt I'll continue watching.
Mad Men has gone on too long. Really should have ended 2 seasons ago.
GoT has been ok. That brother raping sister scene was pretty farked up. Not sure why they felt the need to put that in. Actually quite a bit of unnecessary stuff this season. The Stannis scenes in particular are a waste of time. Some epic battles coming up though.

taniwharugby

the whole thing with Oberon as well, like Renley, I thought it was more alluded to thier sexuality in the books rather than out of the closet so to speak, so what does it add by making it that way? It isn't like they lack for content and need to fill in gaps...
 
The scene with Jamie and Cersei, that (or a scene very similar) happened in the book didnt it, but was just after he returned to Kings Landing IIRC??
 
Well into S3 of Grimm, and after a slow start, is going good

gollum

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the whole thing with Oberon as well, like Renley, I thought it was more alluded to thier sexuality in the books rather than out of the closet so to speak, so what does it add by making it that way? It isn't like they lack for content and need to fill in gaps...
 
The scene with Jamie and Cersei, that (or a scene very similar) happened in the book didnt it, but was just after he returned to Kings Landing IIRC??
 
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In the book she is up for it. Same deal as with Dany & the Dothraki king dude, in the books he asks her if its ok & she says yes.
 
In the TV both cases its rape. I suppose the deal was that the books make it look a bit "no means yes", as it starts as no but then becomes yes. Which is a slightly non PC to throw out on TV. They would have a got a HUGE amount of shit if in both cases (as in the books) what starts as rape becomes consensual. You can see the script meeting with HBOs legal & advertising guys
 
"so Jamie rapes Cersci?"
"well, it starts that way, but then she likes it & enthusiastically joins in, sort of No! No! oooooh! yes! - just like when that 30 year old dude did 14 year old Dany in episode 1!"
"yeah... we are not tossing that message out on prime time TV"

Rancid Schnitzel

If I recall correctly, in the book she was willing but was on her rags while he nailed here. That's not really something to show on TV.
 
Taxiway: Absolutely. There was also that scene at the wedding with Brienne that was a total waste of time. With such limited time available due to the absurd scope of the series, why waste time on that kind of shite.

taniwharugby

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="425115" data-time="1398341107">If I recall correctly, in the book she was willing but was on her rags while he nailed her</blockquote>
 
Ah yes, that is the scene I recall...

Nepia

I've just been catching up on the latest episodes of Game of Thrones and Mad Men.
 
Game of Thrones has been good, I still get annoyed with the jumping around ... but realise that's what they have to do to tell the story. Weddings hah?
 
Mad Men: Apparently viewership is down for Mad Men and some critics are turning against it. I've never been a regular Mad Men viewer in that I thought most of the first 3 seasons were average but have found it brilliant since then. These new episodes have been great. I laughed harder in the second episode throughout than during most comedy's. 
 
[spoiler] I'm not sure if I believe that Don would have taken that deal. It's way too stringent and seems as just a way for the firm to fire him and relieve him of his shares. If I was Don I would have said f*#k you, keep paying me to sit on my arse or buy me out and end the non compete. [/spoiler]

Crucial

There's a lot of talk around the interweb about how the GoT series is diverging from the books. Most are just plot devices due to the compressed nature but it appears they may have spoilered the books
 
[spoiler]In the credits originally supplied to broadcasters they introduced a new character well ahead of the same point in the books... 
See this But where things get really interesting is in the (now-changed) HBO synopsis of the episode. 
â€œA White Walker claims the baby and rides to a city of ice,â€ the synopsis read. â€œThe child is presented at an altar, where the Nightâ€s King greets the infant and lays a finger on its cheek. The babyâ€s eyes turn White Walker blue.â€ 
The synopsis has been changed to read â€œwhere a White Walker greets the infant and lays a finger on its cheek.â€ The mention of the Nightâ€s King is gone, but not before the text was spread on reddit and across the internet. 
The significance of the Nightâ€s King is pretty huge. Long the subject of various Game of Thrones theories, the Nightâ€s King is a legend told to Bran Stark by Old Nan at Winterfell. Hereâ€s the summary of the legendary figure from A Wiki of Ice and Fire: 
According to legend, the Nightâ€s King lived during the Age of Heroes, not long after the Wall was complete. He was a fearless warrior, who was named the thirteenth Lord Commander of the Nightâ€s Watch. Later he fell in love with a woman â€œwith skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue starsâ€, he chased her and loved her though â€œher skin was cold as iceâ€, and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well.[1] (Her description matches that of the Others.) 
He brought her back to the Nightfort and after the unholy union, he declared himself king and her his queen, and ruled the Nightfort as his own castle for thirteen years. During the dark years of his reign, horrific atrocities were committed, of which tales are still told in the North. It was not until his own brother, the King in the North, and Joramun, the King-Beyond-the-Wall, joined forces that the Nightâ€s King was brought down and the Nightâ€s Watch freed. After his fall, when it was discovered that he had been sacrificing to the Others (possibly in similar way to Craster), all records of him were destroyed and his very name was forbidden. It is likely this led the lords of the North to forbid the Nightâ€s Watch to construct walls at their keeps, ensuring the keeps would always be accessible from the south. 
What was once just a legend appears to be true, and now we have a direct link between the White Walkers and the Starks of Winterfell. The ancestor of Bran Stark and Jon Snow was a Lord Commander of the Nightâ€s Watch, transformed into a White Walker, and was eventually driven into the north via an alliance between wildlings, crows, and the King in the North. 
Now the Nightâ€s King is back, and heâ€s been transforming human babies into Walkers, just like he was transformed by his queen long ago. Heâ€s even seen wearing black, similar to the Nightâ€s Watch. Itâ€s pretty fascinating, and something that certainly hasnâ€t been revealed in the books. Itâ€s also probably canon, since itâ€s unlikely theyâ€d change (or add) something so major to the show that isnâ€t true in the books (regardless of all the smaller plot tinkering going on.)[/spoiler]

taniwharugby

The books kinda jump like that though....just in more detail.
 
Chapter 1 - Ned
Chapter 2 - Tyrion
Chapter 3 - Bran
Chapter 4 - Ned
 
you get the picture....
 
I'm still deciding if I liked the White Walker part we saw....guess it depends where they go with it (assume they have Martin's White Walker movie in mind here )

Nepia

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The books kinda jump like that though....just in more detail.
 
Chapter 1 - Ned
Chapter 2 - Tyrion
Chapter 3 - Bran
Chapter 4 - Ned
 
you get the picture....
 
I'm still deciding if I liked the White Walker part we saw....guess it depends where they go with it (assume they have Martin's White Walker movie in mind here )
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As I like Game of Thrones for the drama and politics, and not the fantasy, I don't particularly like it. No dragons, white walkers or Bran the animal would be my preference ... I'm shit out of luck though.

Rancid Schnitzel

As an avid fan of the books I don't really care about white walkers and shit like that. Im much more interested in the wars further south. What was cool about this episode was that it contained stuff that wasnt in the books and that makes it far more interesting.

Crucial

Orphan Black 2
 
Anyone else started? I found Ep 1 to be a bit of a mess trying to set up the plotlines but it all makes sense again in a great Ep2.
 
Good to see the cop (Art) back in a bigger way. He adds a touch of real world to the weird happenings.

taniwharugby

nah I've not started OB yet, but picked up the first ep of Vikings last night, was decent enough opening ep.

Nepia

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Orphan Black 2
 
Anyone else started? I found Ep 1 to be a bit of a mess trying to set up the plotlines but it all makes sense again in a great Ep2.
 
Good to see the cop (Art) back in a bigger way. He adds a touch of real world to the weird happenings. 
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That's good to know, I was a bit underwhelmed. But then again, I think I needed to rewatch the last ep of s1 again as I was a bit lost ... memory isn't what it used to be.

Crucial

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That's good to know, I was a bit underwhelmed. But then again, I think I needed to rewatch the last ep of s1 again as I was a bit lost ... memory isn't what it used to be.
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I think that was my mistake too.

The Silver Fern

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