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the whole thing with Oberon as well, like Renley, I thought it was more alluded to thier sexuality in the books rather than out of the closet so to speak, so what does it add by making it that way? It isn't like they lack for content and need to fill in gaps...
 
The scene with Jamie and Cersei, that (or a scene very similar) happened in the book didnt it, but was just after he returned to Kings Landing IIRC??
 
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In the book she is up for it. Same deal as with Dany & the Dothraki king dude, in the books he asks her if its ok & she says yes.
 
In the TV both cases its rape. I suppose the deal was that the books make it look a bit "no means yes", as it starts as no but then becomes yes. Which is a slightly non PC to throw out on TV. They would have a got a HUGE amount of shit if in both cases (as in the books) what starts as rape becomes consensual. You can see the script meeting with HBOs legal & advertising guys
 
"so Jamie rapes Cersci?"
"well, it starts that way, but then she likes it & enthusiastically joins in, sort of No! No! oooooh! yes! - just like when that 30 year old dude did 14 year old Dany in episode 1!"
"yeah... we are not tossing that message out on prime time TV"

Rancid Schnitzel

If I recall correctly, in the book she was willing but was on her rags while he nailed here. That's not really something to show on TV.
 
Taxiway: Absolutely. There was also that scene at the wedding with Brienne that was a total waste of time. With such limited time available due to the absurd scope of the series, why waste time on that kind of shite.

taniwharugby

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="425115" data-time="1398341107">If I recall correctly, in the book she was willing but was on her rags while he nailed her</blockquote>
 
Ah yes, that is the scene I recall...

Nepia

I've just been catching up on the latest episodes of Game of Thrones and Mad Men.
 
Game of Thrones has been good, I still get annoyed with the jumping around ... but realise that's what they have to do to tell the story. Weddings hah?
 
Mad Men: Apparently viewership is down for Mad Men and some critics are turning against it. I've never been a regular Mad Men viewer in that I thought most of the first 3 seasons were average but have found it brilliant since then. These new episodes have been great. I laughed harder in the second episode throughout than during most comedy's. 
 
[spoiler] I'm not sure if I believe that Don would have taken that deal. It's way too stringent and seems as just a way for the firm to fire him and relieve him of his shares. If I was Don I would have said f*#k you, keep paying me to sit on my arse or buy me out and end the non compete. [/spoiler]

Crucial

There's a lot of talk around the interweb about how the GoT series is diverging from the books. Most are just plot devices due to the compressed nature but it appears they may have spoilered the books
 
[spoiler]In the credits originally supplied to broadcasters they introduced a new character well ahead of the same point in the books... 
See this But where things get really interesting is in the (now-changed) HBO synopsis of the episode. 
â€œA White Walker claims the baby and rides to a city of ice,â€ the synopsis read. â€œThe child is presented at an altar, where the Nightâ€s King greets the infant and lays a finger on its cheek. The babyâ€s eyes turn White Walker blue.â€ 
The synopsis has been changed to read â€œwhere a White Walker greets the infant and lays a finger on its cheek.â€ The mention of the Nightâ€s King is gone, but not before the text was spread on reddit and across the internet. 
The significance of the Nightâ€s King is pretty huge. Long the subject of various Game of Thrones theories, the Nightâ€s King is a legend told to Bran Stark by Old Nan at Winterfell. Hereâ€s the summary of the legendary figure from A Wiki of Ice and Fire: 
According to legend, the Nightâ€s King lived during the Age of Heroes, not long after the Wall was complete. He was a fearless warrior, who was named the thirteenth Lord Commander of the Nightâ€s Watch. Later he fell in love with a woman â€œwith skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue starsâ€, he chased her and loved her though â€œher skin was cold as iceâ€, and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well.[1] (Her description matches that of the Others.) 
He brought her back to the Nightfort and after the unholy union, he declared himself king and her his queen, and ruled the Nightfort as his own castle for thirteen years. During the dark years of his reign, horrific atrocities were committed, of which tales are still told in the North. It was not until his own brother, the King in the North, and Joramun, the King-Beyond-the-Wall, joined forces that the Nightâ€s King was brought down and the Nightâ€s Watch freed. After his fall, when it was discovered that he had been sacrificing to the Others (possibly in similar way to Craster), all records of him were destroyed and his very name was forbidden. It is likely this led the lords of the North to forbid the Nightâ€s Watch to construct walls at their keeps, ensuring the keeps would always be accessible from the south. 
What was once just a legend appears to be true, and now we have a direct link between the White Walkers and the Starks of Winterfell. The ancestor of Bran Stark and Jon Snow was a Lord Commander of the Nightâ€s Watch, transformed into a White Walker, and was eventually driven into the north via an alliance between wildlings, crows, and the King in the North. 
Now the Nightâ€s King is back, and heâ€s been transforming human babies into Walkers, just like he was transformed by his queen long ago. Heâ€s even seen wearing black, similar to the Nightâ€s Watch. Itâ€s pretty fascinating, and something that certainly hasnâ€t been revealed in the books. Itâ€s also probably canon, since itâ€s unlikely theyâ€d change (or add) something so major to the show that isnâ€t true in the books (regardless of all the smaller plot tinkering going on.)[/spoiler]

taniwharugby

The books kinda jump like that though....just in more detail.
 
Chapter 1 - Ned
Chapter 2 - Tyrion
Chapter 3 - Bran
Chapter 4 - Ned
 
you get the picture....
 
I'm still deciding if I liked the White Walker part we saw....guess it depends where they go with it (assume they have Martin's White Walker movie in mind here )

Nepia

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The books kinda jump like that though....just in more detail.
 
Chapter 1 - Ned
Chapter 2 - Tyrion
Chapter 3 - Bran
Chapter 4 - Ned
 
you get the picture....
 
I'm still deciding if I liked the White Walker part we saw....guess it depends where they go with it (assume they have Martin's White Walker movie in mind here )
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As I like Game of Thrones for the drama and politics, and not the fantasy, I don't particularly like it. No dragons, white walkers or Bran the animal would be my preference ... I'm shit out of luck though.

Rancid Schnitzel

As an avid fan of the books I don't really care about white walkers and shit like that. Im much more interested in the wars further south. What was cool about this episode was that it contained stuff that wasnt in the books and that makes it far more interesting.

Crucial

Orphan Black 2
 
Anyone else started? I found Ep 1 to be a bit of a mess trying to set up the plotlines but it all makes sense again in a great Ep2.
 
Good to see the cop (Art) back in a bigger way. He adds a touch of real world to the weird happenings.

taniwharugby

nah I've not started OB yet, but picked up the first ep of Vikings last night, was decent enough opening ep.

Nepia

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Orphan Black 2
 
Anyone else started? I found Ep 1 to be a bit of a mess trying to set up the plotlines but it all makes sense again in a great Ep2.
 
Good to see the cop (Art) back in a bigger way. He adds a touch of real world to the weird happenings. 
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That's good to know, I was a bit underwhelmed. But then again, I think I needed to rewatch the last ep of s1 again as I was a bit lost ... memory isn't what it used to be.

Crucial

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That's good to know, I was a bit underwhelmed. But then again, I think I needed to rewatch the last ep of s1 again as I was a bit lost ... memory isn't what it used to be.
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I think that was my mistake too.

taniwharugby

anyone still watching Arrow or Revolution??
 
By fark if the scheduling of these programmes isnt p!ssing me off something chronic!
 
2 weeks on, a week off, couple of weeks on, another week off...

Crucial

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anyone still watching Arrow or Revolution??
 
By fark if the scheduling of these programmes isnt p!ssing me off something chronic!
 
2 weeks on, a week off, couple of weeks on, another week off...
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Gave up on Revolution quite a while back but have kept going on Arrow. Big game changer last week and the last few eps of the season should be a cracker.
 
Best thing is that we may finally get rid of the island flashbacks. They annoy the shit out of me (mainly from the bad wigs)
 
I'm interested to see where they go with Roy's character. I assume that StarLabs will come up with an antidote to the Mirakuru but whether it has full effect on Roy will remain to be seen.

taniwharugby

I am so over Thea, whiny little bearch!
 
But yeah certainly looks like setting up for a good last few eps...Assume they all react differently to the Mirakuru, given Roy is simply an angry person that cant control it, Slade has had years to sort his out, yet his army all seemed pretty controlled too.
 
There is also that nerdy dude who is still I a Coma, who must surely come out with powers...Not sure why Oliver is (was) with Sarah when he coulda had Laurel or Felicity!
 
Revolution has gone down a bit IMO, although the lack of continuity (has a good ep then 2 week break) is probably part of the problem, as I was really getting into it!

Crucial

The" nerdy dude in a coma" is the Flash. They used Arrow to set up the backstory for the new Flash series. Arrow producers have said they have looked at introducing Flash in Arrow but have decided it won't be done until the standalone series.

taniwharugby

ah ok, haven't looked at any of the forums/comic stuff, aside from looking at Slade...although 2 different sites didn't really tie in a great deal, so I am not sure if the series will take that route.
 
Stink they wont use the Flash though, Ollie could use some help right now (not to mention why did they bother introducing him?)

Crucial

To set up the offshoot series. This is the DC franchise doing what Marvel have done. Will be interesting to see if they run two separate (TV and Movie) environments with intertwining elements. The movie side has Batman and Superman and about to add Wonder Woman. There is a JLA movie in the works though and in theory should include both Arrow and Flash.

taniwharugby

makes sense...Not sure if I will watch Flash though, never really been a fan....

Nepia

I'm still watching Revolution but like you TR I think the scheduling has stuffed it completely. I thought this season was going great up until a few episodes ago.
 
I have about 10 unwatched episodes of Arrow. I put it in my light entertainment box and Agents of Shield took that spot on my viewing roster in the past couple of months. I assume I'll get back into it but it wasn't holding my interest at the time ... even with the Maori villain.
 
I'm still really enjoying The Americans.

The Silver Fern

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