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AB EOYT 2018

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    I'm happy with the main squad, especially because Matt Todd is in it. IMO he's the best back-up for Cane, despite Ardie's good performance against SA.

    Out of the main squad are:

    Not picked:
    Tim Perry, Laumape, Coltman, NMS, who are all in the wider squad

    Unavailable:
    Cane, Frizell, Taufua

    Of the newbies in the wider squad, I agree with all except O’Neill and Cameron, although I'm disappointed for Weber, who has been in good form for Hawke's Bay. Agree that Hunt is much better than Cameron. I don't understand these selections at all.

    About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

    IMO, Papali'i is taking the spot that would otherwise have gone to Akira; not Evans. Evans is a completely different player and much more versatile than Akira, which makes him an excellent bench player. Evans absolutely deserves his call-up.

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    @stargazer Papali'i is going as a 7. Evans is going as an 6/8 (who can cover 7 at a pinch). Evans has taken Akira's spot.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked for Evans and it's great we have another Magpie AB in the mix.

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      Finally something to post about aye fullas.

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      @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

      Finally something to post about aye fullas.

      Are we looking into a Foster future here?

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        I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

        As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

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        • CyclopsC Cyclops

          I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

          As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

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          @cyclops is Frizell Maori?

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          • CyclopsC Cyclops

            I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

            As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

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            @cyclops said in AB EOYT 2018:

            I laughed out loud when I read the squad, especially the add on 19. Most left field squad since 2003?

            As a die hard Canterbury fan I can't understand how Cameron makes it. Never mind Frizzel getting Isacc Rossed, and Akira getting Hika Ellioted. I assume Frizzell, Akira, Weber and Hemopo (and maybe a few others) are going to be playing for the Māori which makes sense for the fringe guys that might only have been the plus 19 or a couple of bench opportunities but not for Akira. I'd love a candid assessment of why not from Hansen. Is this a conspiracy to perform poorly and improve the case for government funding?

            It would certainly stop the character assassination fantasy stories that get posted here about him.

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              Any video of the press conference? I've only found the short 2min video

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              • S Steven Harris

                @stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:

                About Akira, I can only guess, but there just must be something we don't know of why he isn't picked. Maybe they have given him a list of work-ons, and he hasn't delivered on those points. Or there's a character issue we don't know of.

                Getting in at 4pm in the Morning at a recent training when the head coach was informed and was waiting for you to arrive probably does not help your cause..Akira is a talent no question,but until you get your shit together in and around off field and training ethic,you don’t catch too many breaks let me give you the tip..!

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                @steven-harris is the sauce for this legit? Would really suck if it was his own behaviour sinking his chances. Or maybe he was on a bender after finding out he didn't make the cut.

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                  Frizzell has a should injury, apparently.

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                    Brett Cameron is a real head-scratcher.

                    He's the 4th best 10 in the country? I fucking doubt it.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @cyclops is Frizell Maori?

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                      @taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @cyclops is Frizell Maori?

                      I would assume not, then I'd have to start calling him the Tongan-Maori. Hmmm, I wonder if they've discovered he's not actually eligible for us yet?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Brett Cameron is a real head-scratcher.

                        He's the 4th best 10 in the country? I fucking doubt it.

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                        @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        Brett Cameron is a real head-scratcher.

                        He's the 4th best 10 in the country? I fucking doubt it.

                        I'd rate him 4th out of the starting 10's in the NPC semis

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                          I assume that these players will miss out on the semi or final games of the NPC?

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                            The fixture against Japan shouldn't have Test status. None of the expected debutants should be able to call themselves All Blacks after that fixture.

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                              Suprised like a lot of others that they didn't introduce another lock to the Japanese leg. Would have liked to have seen Strange/Walker-Leawere play against Japan but never mind.

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                                Nigel Yalden is on Radio Sport now talking about the squad.

                                https://www.radiosport.co.nz/

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                                  Has Nathan Harris been dropped?

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                                    I guess I've probably heard of Reuben O'Neill, but I can't recall it. However, I knew they needed another loosehead and was struggling to think who it would be. I'd gone for Hodgman, but I think he must be injured.

                                    Brett Cameron is the other one that surprises the hell out of me. I would have gone with Black, Hunt, Gatland and Perofeta ahead of him. And, I suspect he'll be sitting on the bench. (Actually, on second thoughts probably not - they need to have three first fives in Japan in case of a late injury).

                                    Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.

                                    Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett

                                    Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor

                                    Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      I guess I've probably heard of Reuben O'Neill, but I can't recall it. However, I knew they needed another loosehead and was struggling to think who it would be. I'd gone for Hodgman, but I think he must be injured.

                                      Brett Cameron is the other one that surprises the hell out of me. I would have gone with Black, Hunt, Gatland and Perofeta ahead of him. And, I suspect he'll be sitting on the bench. (Actually, on second thoughts probably not - they need to have three first fives in Japan in case of a late injury).

                                      Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.

                                      Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett

                                      Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor

                                      Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili

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                                      @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                      I'd gone for Hodgman, but I think he must be injured.

                                      Hasn't been selected by Canterbury for a couple of weeks, I think?

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        I guess I've probably heard of Reuben O'Neill, but I can't recall it. However, I knew they needed another loosehead and was struggling to think who it would be. I'd gone for Hodgman, but I think he must be injured.

                                        Brett Cameron is the other one that surprises the hell out of me. I would have gone with Black, Hunt, Gatland and Perofeta ahead of him. And, I suspect he'll be sitting on the bench. (Actually, on second thoughts probably not - they need to have three first fives in Japan in case of a late injury).

                                        Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.

                                        Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett

                                        Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor

                                        Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili

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                                        @chris-b Oh damn, I completely missed that Havili made the squad too.

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                                          Goodhue has glandular fever, and won't tour Japan.

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