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AB EOYT 2018

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  • BonesB Bones

    @kirwan said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

    Jesus, every hour Akira gets more and more legendary as the most amazing player in the world ever. Poor old Gibson, so easily forgotten.

    Perfectly valid to want to see what he could with an AB forward pack in front of him. The same chance that Whitelock, Frizzel, Fifita, Squire, Savea and now bloody Evans have had.

    I agree wholeheartedly. However, that's not what my post was aimed at - the hype being built up around a player that occasionally looks very good at super level is ridiculous. This is blowing the Ngatai nonsense clean outta the water.

    Edit: The coaches have different plans for him - at least they have plans. As I said earlier, I really won't be surprised if they break him out for the RWC, when no bugger has had a chance to have a good look at him and see how he's being used.

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    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @kirwan said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

    Jesus, every hour Akira gets more and more legendary as the most amazing player in the world ever. Poor old Gibson, so easily forgotten.

    Perfectly valid to want to see what he could with an AB forward pack in front of him. The same chance that Whitelock, Frizzel, Fifita, Squire, Savea and now bloody Evans have had.

    I agree wholeheartedly. However, that's not what my post was aimed at - the hype being built up around a player that occasionally looks very good at super level is ridiculous. This is blowing the Ngatai nonsense clean outta the water.

    Edit: The coaches have different plans for him - at least they have plans. As I said earlier, I really won't be surprised if they break him out for the RWC, when no bugger has had a chance to have a good look at him and see how he's being used.

    I've not seen anybody say anything other than they want to see him in the squad, so they can see what he can do. Or that he's better than the other plodders they are picking, which he's already proven for a few years now at Super level.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

      @kirwan said in AB EOYT 2018:

      @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

      Jesus, every hour Akira gets more and more legendary as the most amazing player in the world ever. Poor old Gibson, so easily forgotten.

      Perfectly valid to want to see what he could with an AB forward pack in front of him. The same chance that Whitelock, Frizzel, Fifita, Squire, Savea and now bloody Evans have had.

      I agree wholeheartedly. However, that's not what my post was aimed at - the hype being built up around a player that occasionally looks very good at super level is ridiculous. This is blowing the Ngatai nonsense clean outta the water.

      Edit: The coaches have different plans for him - at least they have plans. As I said earlier, I really won't be surprised if they break him out for the RWC, when no bugger has had a chance to have a good look at him and see how he's being used.

      I've not seen anybody say anything other than they want to see him in the squad, so they can see what he can do. Or that he's better than the other plodders they are picking, which he's already proven for a few years now at Super level.

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      @kirwan What? There has been a lot more than that said!

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      • BonesB Bones

        @kirwan What? There has been a lot more than that said!

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        @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

        @kirwan What? There has been a lot more than that said!

        Not really, most posts fall in the two camps I posted. Better than dross like Whitelock, or give him the same chance as their project players.

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          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-omission-akira-ioane-snapped-up-by-nz-maori

          The chance to pick Ioane came as a surprise to head coach Clayton McMillan, who jumped at the chance to use the ball-carrying eight.
          
          β€œWe didn’t really anticipate Akira being involved with us and he’s going to be a significant boost for our team,” McMillan said at the announcement of the squad.
          
          β€œWe’re all well aware of his strengths and we’ll welcome him into our fold with open arms.
          
          β€œHe’s been a part of the All Blacks environment for the last 12-18 months.
          
          β€œWe make a few assumptions fairly early on, on who might be available to us and we obviously got that one wrong.”
          
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            Why wouldn't the Māori coach have an inside word about which players would be probably available to him?

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              Why wouldn't the Māori coach have an inside word about which players would be probably available to him?

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              @antipodean Apparently they generally do:

              β€œIt had its challenges, but the All Blacks management and coaching staff have been extremely open around who might become available to us, post the Japan commitments,” he said.

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              • TimT Tim

                @antipodean Apparently they generally do:

                β€œIt had its challenges, but the All Blacks management and coaching staff have been extremely open around who might become available to us, post the Japan commitments,” he said.

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                @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @antipodean Apparently they generally do:

                β€œIt had its challenges, but the All Blacks management and coaching staff have been extremely open around who might become available to us, post the Japan commitments,” he said.

                So it's a non-story.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                  @act-crusader ...the dropping of Cully. The whole Mitch era really.

                  Henry over Deans in 2008.

                  The Hammettuer thread - you did great service at keeping that one going and going.

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                  @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                  @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                  @act-crusader ...the dropping of Cully. The whole Mitch era really.

                  Henry over Deans in 2008.

                  The Hammettuer thread - you did great service at keeping that one going and going.

                  I don't like to see wrong-headed thinking prevail! πŸ™‚

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @antipodean Apparently they generally do:

                    β€œIt had its challenges, but the All Blacks management and coaching staff have been extremely open around who might become available to us, post the Japan commitments,” he said.

                    So it's a non-story.

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                    @antipodean The thing is that they normally do know who's available, but with Ioane they didn't, and were surprised that he was.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @act-crusader ...the dropping of Cully. The whole Mitch era really.

                      Henry over Deans in 2008.

                      The Hammettuer thread - you did great service at keeping that one going and going.

                      I don't like to see wrong-headed thinking prevail! πŸ™‚

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                      @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @act-crusader ...the dropping of Cully. The whole Mitch era really.

                      Henry over Deans in 2008.

                      The Hammettuer thread - you did great service at keeping that one going and going.

                      I don't like to see wrong-headed thinking prevail! πŸ™‚

                      I know, yet it did for four years before the Canes saw the light and appointed a new coach and won their first Super trophy. πŸ˜‰

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @antipodean The thing is that they normally do know who's available, but with Ioane they didn't, and were surprised that he was.

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                        @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        @antipodean The thing is that they normally do know who's available, but with Ioane they didn't, and were surprised that he was.

                        Maybe it was a last minute swap out with the white version of Akira - Evans and they didn't get round to notifying McMillan?

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @act-crusader ...the dropping of Cully. The whole Mitch era really.

                          Henry over Deans in 2008.

                          The Hammettuer thread - you did great service at keeping that one going and going.

                          I don't like to see wrong-headed thinking prevail! πŸ™‚

                          I know, yet it did for four years before the Canes saw the light and appointed a new coach and won their first Super trophy. πŸ˜‰

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                          Chris B.
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                          @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @act-crusader ...the dropping of Cully. The whole Mitch era really.

                          Henry over Deans in 2008.

                          The Hammettuer thread - you did great service at keeping that one going and going.

                          I don't like to see wrong-headed thinking prevail! πŸ™‚

                          I know, yet it did for four years before the Canes saw the light and appointed a new coach and won their first Super trophy. πŸ˜‰

                          Just a pity that the cleaning lady found Hammer's blackboard after that! πŸ™‚

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                          • TimT Tim

                            @antipodean The thing is that they normally do know who's available, but with Ioane they didn't, and were surprised that he was.

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                            @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                            @antipodean The thing is that they normally do know who's available, but with Ioane they didn't, and were surprised that he was.

                            It's a shit article because it has no timeline. They 'make a few assumptions fairly early on', 'didn’t really anticipate Akira being involved' and 'the All Blacks management and coaching staff have been extremely open'.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              @bones Start this one at 1:15.

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                              mariner4life
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                              @tim my favourite one from Sunday didn't result in a try because think Nanai kicked it dead. But he smashed some bloke, dislodged the ball, regathered the ball, and then moved it on instantly. Physicality and skill.

                              Definitely the 14th best loose forward in the country...

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @act-crusader ...the dropping of Cully. The whole Mitch era really.

                                Henry over Deans in 2008.

                                The Hammettuer thread - you did great service at keeping that one going and going.

                                I don't like to see wrong-headed thinking prevail! πŸ™‚

                                I know, yet it did for four years before the Canes saw the light and appointed a new coach and won their first Super trophy. πŸ˜‰

                                Just a pity that the cleaning lady found Hammer's blackboard after that! πŸ™‚

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                                Nepia
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                                @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @act-crusader ...the dropping of Cully. The whole Mitch era really.

                                Henry over Deans in 2008.

                                The Hammettuer thread - you did great service at keeping that one going and going.

                                I don't like to see wrong-headed thinking prevail! πŸ™‚

                                I know, yet it did for four years before the Canes saw the light and appointed a new coach and won their first Super trophy. πŸ˜‰

                                Just a pity that the cleaning lady found Hammer's blackboard after that! πŸ™‚

                                It must have been partially scrubbed ... because they made the finals.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @tim my favourite one from Sunday didn't result in a try because think Nanai kicked it dead. But he smashed some bloke, dislodged the ball, regathered the ball, and then moved it on instantly. Physicality and skill.

                                  Definitely the 14th best loose forward in the country...

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                                  Tim
                                  wrote on last edited by Tim
                                  #480

                                  @mariner4life I'm just waiting for Luke Whitelock to grow a new body and become the physical test loose forward we know he can be.

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                                  • FrankF Frank

                                    This would be the biggest Fern meltdown over a selection in years - many years

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                                    @frank said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                    This would be the biggest Fern meltdown over a selection in years - many years

                                    Since Toeava I reckon

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @frank said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                      This would be the biggest Fern meltdown over a selection in years - many years

                                      Since Toeava I reckon

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                                      @canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                      @frank said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                      This would be the biggest Fern meltdown over a selection in years - many years

                                      Since Toeava I reckon

                                      Wasn't that just one single poster ...whose name escapes me at the moment?

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        @frank said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        This would be the biggest Fern meltdown over a selection in years - many years

                                        Since Toeava I reckon

                                        Wasn't that just one single poster ...whose name escapes me at the moment?

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                                        @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        @canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        @frank said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        This would be the biggest Fern meltdown over a selection in years - many years

                                        Since Toeava I reckon

                                        Wasn't that just one single poster ...whose name escapes me at the moment?

                                        The American guy. He did great work on the middle east thread too. Oh and winger with his Weepu rants were consistent

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                          @frank said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                          This would be the biggest Fern meltdown over a selection in years - many years

                                          Since Toeava I reckon

                                          Wasn't that just one single poster ...whose name escapes me at the moment?

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                                          @nepia

                                          Poor, forgetting Davidav. Next you'll claim to not remember Blackdragon.

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