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    Nathan Hughes had an initial 4 week ban extended to 6 after tweeting 'What a joke' when leaving the hearing. (Unmitigated 6 weeks reinstated and a 2 week ban for the tweet to be served concurrently)

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    @rotated said in NH International Rugby:

    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    Who gives it to SA for picking with quotas?

    Uh, Hansen just about every year we play SA.

    2015
    2016
    Comments in 2017 for a book that came out this year.

    Henry and Mains have both been outspoken too, but only once outside the tent. Hansen has said it often enough, explicitly enough to where the NZRU either agree, or don't care to reign him in.

    Hmmmm.

    I don't agree with your interpretation of Hansen's comments as 'giving it to' SA for their policies. I see them as describing how tough it is for the Boks/Bok coaches (mainly from his insights chatting with his mate Meyer)

    I see the comments in the book as describing how under the policies they don't necessarily select the best team they could.

    Maybe we are just tripping over the language in the post.

    The bit in your comment that I don't understand is why it hypocritical.

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    I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
    If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
    Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?

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    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
    If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
    Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?

    Real shame. England have and will have the backs to execute both a 'truck it up' and expansive game plan.

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    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
    If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
    Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?

    Real shame. England have and will have the backs to execute both a 'truck it up' and expansive game plan.

    I think Eddie ahs been heard to comment that he doesn't believe that the expansive game is in the DNA of the players. Not that they don't have the skillsets or desire just that the club footy low risk style doesn't create the instincts required.
    He is probably correct in that they need to play the way that comes naturally but do it with the best players at the highest levels of execution.
    Of course, we hope that the drawback to this style is that it relies on accumulating points from the boot and battering in the trenches. We keep showing that it is hard to do that for 80 minutes and as long as we stay close we can blow past in the final stanza

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    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
    If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
    Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?

    Real shame. England have and will have the backs to execute both a 'truck it up' and expansive game plan.

    I think Eddie ahs been heard to comment that he doesn't believe that the expansive game is in the DNA of the players. Not that they don't have the skillsets or desire just that the club footy low risk style doesn't create the instincts required.
    He is probably correct in that they need to play the way that comes naturally but do it with the best players at the highest levels of execution.
    Of course, we hope that the drawback to this style is that it relies on accumulating points from the boot and battering in the trenches. We keep showing that it is hard to do that for 80 minutes and as long as we stay close we can blow past in the final stanza

    Surely it's his job to recognise and pick the players who can evolve and adapt to his coaching style and aims.

    They're there.

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    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
    If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
    Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?

    Real shame. England have and will have the backs to execute both a 'truck it up' and expansive game plan.

    I think Eddie ahs been heard to comment that he doesn't believe that the expansive game is in the DNA of the players. Not that they don't have the skillsets or desire just that the club footy low risk style doesn't create the instincts required.
    He is probably correct in that they need to play the way that comes naturally but do it with the best players at the highest levels of execution.
    Of course, we hope that the drawback to this style is that it relies on accumulating points from the boot and battering in the trenches. We keep showing that it is hard to do that for 80 minutes and as long as we stay close we can blow past in the final stanza

    Surely it's his job to recognise and pick the players who can evolve and adapt to his coaching style and aims.

    They're there.

    TBF I think he has tried. Whether the recent loss rate has made him give up that approach or whether the players aren't up to it is the question.
    I do think England (and Eddie) have been rather conservative with selections though and could have given the squads a huge shakeup in search of the game they could aspire to.
    I think his point was that it makes it difficult to have the players playing a different style to the one their year round comp expects from them.

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    Looking at that England squad, the forwards are a bit mediocre and green, but the backline looks fantastic. Normally it's the other way around with them.

    A tough and unusual test coming for the All Blacks against England on 10 November.

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    Our forwards will dominate England, and no matter how good the Red Rose backs are, they'll be unable to stand upto the All Blacks backs with good front foot ball provided on a platter. It's Ireland who are the real threat imo.

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    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    Surely it's his job to recognise and pick the players who can evolve and adapt to his coaching style and aims.
    They're there.

    That rules out the ones who played against Italy.

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    Time against Steve Jackson as he prepares to restore Manu Samoa to feared World Cup force

    Time against Steve Jackson as he prepares to restore Manu Samoa to feared World Cup force

    Time is short, but Steve Jackson has lofty ambitions with Manu Samoa. The head coach of world rugby’s No 16-ranked side has been in the job less than a month but flies out this weekend for a Northern tour.

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    Manu Tuilagi is set to return for England:

    Rugby union | The Guardian
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    @sparky Has he played any rugby in the last few years?

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    @antipodean said in NH International Rugby:

    @sparky Has he played any rugby in the last few years?

    This is doing the rounds

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    @mikethesnow They forgot to include this in that highlights real. Unreal defence on a big unit from BFA.

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    @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

    @mikethesnow They forgot to include this in that highlights real. Unreal defence on a big unit from BFA.

    Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌

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    @mikethesnow

    Seriously, great to see Manu Tuilagi back. At his best he is one of the most powerful attacking players in the world game.

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    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌

    That should be in some sort of rugby text book. There is no part of that, which isn't technically perfect.

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    @mooshld said in NH International Rugby:

    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌en huge

    That should be in some sort of rugby text book. There is no part of that, which isn't technically perfect.

    Yep, even the supporting winger did exactly the right thing when the temptation not to bother going all the way round to the right side would have been huge.

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    @catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

    @mooshld said in NH International Rugby:

    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌en huge

    That should be in some sort of rugby text book. There is no part of that, which isn't technically perfect.

    Yep, even the supporting winger did exactly the right thing when the temptation not to bother going all the way round to the right side would have been huge.

    That's because he was the fool that dropped the ball in the first place. Worst handling ever seen by CJ and he knew it.
    When you make an error like that on the wing you have a massive incentive to fix it or face no end of shit from your teammates in post game sessions.

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