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    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
    If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
    Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?

    Real shame. England have and will have the backs to execute both a 'truck it up' and expansive game plan.

    I think Eddie ahs been heard to comment that he doesn't believe that the expansive game is in the DNA of the players. Not that they don't have the skillsets or desire just that the club footy low risk style doesn't create the instincts required.
    He is probably correct in that they need to play the way that comes naturally but do it with the best players at the highest levels of execution.
    Of course, we hope that the drawback to this style is that it relies on accumulating points from the boot and battering in the trenches. We keep showing that it is hard to do that for 80 minutes and as long as we stay close we can blow past in the final stanza

    Surely it's his job to recognise and pick the players who can evolve and adapt to his coaching style and aims.

    They're there.

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    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    @crucial said in NH International Rugby:

    I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
    If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
    Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?

    Real shame. England have and will have the backs to execute both a 'truck it up' and expansive game plan.

    I think Eddie ahs been heard to comment that he doesn't believe that the expansive game is in the DNA of the players. Not that they don't have the skillsets or desire just that the club footy low risk style doesn't create the instincts required.
    He is probably correct in that they need to play the way that comes naturally but do it with the best players at the highest levels of execution.
    Of course, we hope that the drawback to this style is that it relies on accumulating points from the boot and battering in the trenches. We keep showing that it is hard to do that for 80 minutes and as long as we stay close we can blow past in the final stanza

    Surely it's his job to recognise and pick the players who can evolve and adapt to his coaching style and aims.

    They're there.

    TBF I think he has tried. Whether the recent loss rate has made him give up that approach or whether the players aren't up to it is the question.
    I do think England (and Eddie) have been rather conservative with selections though and could have given the squads a huge shakeup in search of the game they could aspire to.
    I think his point was that it makes it difficult to have the players playing a different style to the one their year round comp expects from them.

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    Looking at that England squad, the forwards are a bit mediocre and green, but the backline looks fantastic. Normally it's the other way around with them.

    A tough and unusual test coming for the All Blacks against England on 10 November.

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    #137

    Our forwards will dominate England, and no matter how good the Red Rose backs are, they'll be unable to stand upto the All Blacks backs with good front foot ball provided on a platter. It's Ireland who are the real threat imo.

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    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    Surely it's his job to recognise and pick the players who can evolve and adapt to his coaching style and aims.
    They're there.

    That rules out the ones who played against Italy.

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    Time against Steve Jackson as he prepares to restore Manu Samoa to feared World Cup force

    Time against Steve Jackson as he prepares to restore Manu Samoa to feared World Cup force

    Time is short, but Steve Jackson has lofty ambitions with Manu Samoa. The head coach of world rugby’s No 16-ranked side has been in the job less than a month but flies out this weekend for a Northern tour.

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    Manu Tuilagi is set to return for England:

    Rugby union | The Guardian
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    @sparky Has he played any rugby in the last few years?

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    @antipodean said in NH International Rugby:

    @sparky Has he played any rugby in the last few years?

    This is doing the rounds

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    @mikethesnow They forgot to include this in that highlights real. Unreal defence on a big unit from BFA.

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    @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

    @mikethesnow They forgot to include this in that highlights real. Unreal defence on a big unit from BFA.

    Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌

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    @mikethesnow

    Seriously, great to see Manu Tuilagi back. At his best he is one of the most powerful attacking players in the world game.

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    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌

    That should be in some sort of rugby text book. There is no part of that, which isn't technically perfect.

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    @mooshld said in NH International Rugby:

    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌en huge

    That should be in some sort of rugby text book. There is no part of that, which isn't technically perfect.

    Yep, even the supporting winger did exactly the right thing when the temptation not to bother going all the way round to the right side would have been huge.

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    @catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

    @mooshld said in NH International Rugby:

    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌en huge

    That should be in some sort of rugby text book. There is no part of that, which isn't technically perfect.

    Yep, even the supporting winger did exactly the right thing when the temptation not to bother going all the way round to the right side would have been huge.

    That's because he was the fool that dropped the ball in the first place. Worst handling ever seen by CJ and he knew it.
    When you make an error like that on the wing you have a massive incentive to fix it or face no end of shit from your teammates in post game sessions.

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    #149

    Wales legendary prop Gethin Jenkins is set to retire at the weekend after 130+ international caps and a long club career with Cardiff Blues and Toulon:

    Andy Howell  /  Oct 31, 2018  /  Rugby News

    Wales legend Gethin Jenkins reveals he is retiring from rugby this weekend | Wales Online

    Wales legend Gethin Jenkins reveals he is retiring from rugby this weekend | Wales Online

    Wales' record cap-holder and Lions prop will make his final appearance for Cardiff Blues against Zebre on Sunday

    He retires as the 4th most capped Rugby international, behind GOAT, BOD and George Gregan.

    Cheers, Gethin, and best wishes for your post-playing career.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

    Wales legendary prop Gethin Jenkins is set to retire at the weekend after 130+ international caps and a long club career with Cardiff Blues and Toulon:

    Andy Howell  /  Oct 31, 2018  /  Rugby News

    Wales legend Gethin Jenkins reveals he is retiring from rugby this weekend | Wales Online

    Wales legend Gethin Jenkins reveals he is retiring from rugby this weekend | Wales Online

    Wales' record cap-holder and Lions prop will make his final appearance for Cardiff Blues against Zebre on Sunday

    He retires as the 4th most capped Rugby international, behind GOAT, BOD and George Gregan.

    Cheers, Gethin, and best wishes for your post-playing career.

    Hear hear.

    A fantastic player, captain and servant for Welsh rugby.

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    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

    @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

    Wales legendary prop Gethin Jenkins is set to retire at the weekend after 130+ international caps and a long club career with Cardiff Blues and Toulon:

    Andy Howell  /  Oct 31, 2018  /  Rugby News

    Wales legend Gethin Jenkins reveals he is retiring from rugby this weekend | Wales Online

    Wales legend Gethin Jenkins reveals he is retiring from rugby this weekend | Wales Online

    Wales' record cap-holder and Lions prop will make his final appearance for Cardiff Blues against Zebre on Sunday

    He retires as the 4th most capped Rugby international, behind GOAT, BOD and George Gregan.

    Cheers, Gethin, and best wishes for your post-playing career.

    Hear hear.

    A fantastic player, captain and servant for Welsh rugby.

    Great player and all round good guy. Good talker too.

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    @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

    Wales legendary prop Gethin Jenkins is set to retire at the weekend after 130+ international caps and a long club career with Cardiff Blues and Toulon:

    I assume he won't be getting a farewell card from Hammett. 😉

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    #153

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