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AB EOYT 2018

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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    Am very interested to see how we go against England , and Ireland in particular now ,

    Aussies almost play a style similar to super rugby , that kind of makes it easy for us planning wise , its more of the same same , they score tries , but we score more because we are better at it ,

    The NH sides will attempt to suffocate us ,give us nothing , and we have struggled with that in recent times

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    @kiwiinmelb Yeah it is interesting, tho less so with Eng missing a lot of their best pack. I think the ABs will out scrum/lineout/maul the English, and Eng have been shite at the breakdown for the last few years. So even if they try the stiffle/rush, I just don;t see it working for them. I think our midfield, if crappy SBW/Crotty slowmo combo, will get a hard work out against Manu who looks back near his best. They've got fast wings but not great on defence. Not 'worried' about Eng anymore than any game, we could lose if we play crap and Eng play great, Ireland is another kettle of fish. Breakdown and grind and low error rugby is their thing. No Murray is a big bonus of the ABs tho, he turns teams around like no other from ruck kicks.

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      @kiwiinmelb Yeah it is interesting, tho less so with Eng missing a lot of their best pack. I think the ABs will out scrum/lineout/maul the English, and Eng have been shite at the breakdown for the last few years. So even if they try the stiffle/rush, I just don;t see it working for them. I think our midfield, if crappy SBW/Crotty slowmo combo, will get a hard work out against Manu who looks back near his best. They've got fast wings but not great on defence. Not 'worried' about Eng anymore than any game, we could lose if we play crap and Eng play great, Ireland is another kettle of fish. Breakdown and grind and low error rugby is their thing. No Murray is a big bonus of the ABs tho, he turns teams around like no other from ruck kicks.

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      @machpants Courtney Lawes now in doubt as well. His back injury flared up at the training camp and he has left for treatment.
      I suspect Eddie was going to play Itoje at 6 if he could as well. That plan may now be out.

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        Luke Romano has been ruled out of the extended ABs squad for the Japan test due to the injury he sufferend in the Mitre 10 Cup final.

        I assume he won't be replaced?

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          Luke Romano has been ruled out of the extended ABs squad for the Japan test due to the injury he sufferend in the Mitre 10 Cup final.

          I assume he won't be replaced?

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          @stargazer they only have 51 other players, they should call up 2 replacements.

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            Tackle more than five times in a hundred minutes.... 🤪

            Body Poms trying to jinx us: The Times of London claimed it was "inconceivable New Zealand will not return to Yokohama's Nissan Stadium next November to contest the Rugby World Cup final, and on current evidence equally difficult to see past the defending champions lifting the Webb Ellis Trophy there"

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              Guessing there's no replacement for Romano then.

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              • TimT Tim

                Guessing there's no replacement for Romano then.

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                @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                Guessing there's no replacement for Romano then.

                By the time they get up there probably not a lot of point?

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                • TimT Tim

                  Guessing there's no replacement for Romano then.

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                  @tim Wouldn't mind if they blooded someone else but doesn't look like they will. Walker-Leauwere or Strange is someone I'd think of taking.

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                    @tim Wouldn't mind if they blooded someone else but doesn't look like they will. Walker-Leauwere or Strange is someone I'd think of taking.

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                    @african-monkey said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @tim Wouldn't mind if they blooded someone else but doesn't look like they will. Walker-Leauwere or Strange is someone I'd think of taking.

                    If it was just a fill in to hang around with the squad for a week in Japan I'd assume they'd take Strange rather than grab one of the Maori locks? Isn't Hemopo in Japan? He probably provides enough cover.

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @african-monkey said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @tim Wouldn't mind if they blooded someone else but doesn't look like they will. Walker-Leauwere or Strange is someone I'd think of taking.

                      If it was just a fill in to hang around with the squad for a week in Japan I'd assume they'd take Strange rather than grab one of the Maori locks? Isn't Hemopo in Japan? He probably provides enough cover.

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                      @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @african-monkey said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @tim Wouldn't mind if they blooded someone else but doesn't look like they will. Walker-Leauwere or Strange is someone I'd think of taking.

                      If it was just a fill in to hang around with the squad for a week in Japan I'd assume they'd take Strange rather than grab one of the Maori locks? Isn't Hemopo in Japan? He probably provides enough cover.

                      Yeah true, forgot about Hemopo. Wouldn't suprise me if this is Hemopo's last test in the black Jersey along with a few others.

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                        Tackle more than five times in a hundred minutes.... 🤪

                        Body Poms trying to jinx us: The Times of London claimed it was "inconceivable New Zealand will not return to Yokohama's Nissan Stadium next November to contest the Rugby World Cup final, and on current evidence equally difficult to see past the defending champions lifting the Webb Ellis Trophy there"

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                        @machpants said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        Tackle more than five times in a hundred minutes.... 🤪

                        Body Poms trying to jinx us: The Times of London claimed it was "inconceivable New Zealand will not return to Yokohama's Nissan Stadium next November to contest the Rugby World Cup final, and on current evidence equally difficult to see past the defending champions lifting the Webb Ellis Trophy there"

                        Pfft. That’s nothing. The Times of Dublin had a story about a government minister inquiring if it was just a waste of money sending the Irish squad to the World Cup for Rugby Football next year after watching the match in Japan where the All Black Team had overwhelmed their opponents. The money would be better directed at developing mini-camps at GAA clubs. Most of Ireland agreed on a radio phone-in show. Fortunately, there’s an upside to this as Mr Smith’s services would not be required after Christmas and it was understood that he was planning to return to Australia anyway to oversee the All Black team personally.

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                          The rise and rise of Codie Taylor continues. Another strong performance in Yokohama. I expect him to be first-choice All Blacks Holoker through to RWC 2019 and beyond.

                          Harris, Coles, Aumua and Coltman are in competition to be the bench or backup option.

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                            TV3 is saying Mo'unga is the player staying in Japan (based on being the only player from the 23 in the gym today), and will start vs Japan.

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                              @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              @african-monkey said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              @tim Wouldn't mind if they blooded someone else but doesn't look like they will. Walker-Leauwere or Strange is someone I'd think of taking.

                              If it was just a fill in to hang around with the squad for a week in Japan I'd assume they'd take Strange rather than grab one of the Maori locks? Isn't Hemopo in Japan? He probably provides enough cover.

                              Yeah true, forgot about Hemopo. Wouldn't suprise me if this is Hemopo's last test in the black Jersey along with a few others.

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                              @african-monkey said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              @african-monkey said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              @tim Wouldn't mind if they blooded someone else but doesn't look like they will. Walker-Leauwere or Strange is someone I'd think of taking.

                              If it was just a fill in to hang around with the squad for a week in Japan I'd assume they'd take Strange rather than grab one of the Maori locks? Isn't Hemopo in Japan? He probably provides enough cover.

                              Yeah true, forgot about Hemopo. Wouldn't suprise me if this is Hemopo's last test in the black Jersey along with a few others.

                              It would be pretty surprising to me, and probably to the selectors also I'd say. Is he leaving rugby?

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @african-monkey said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @african-monkey said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @tim Wouldn't mind if they blooded someone else but doesn't look like they will. Walker-Leauwere or Strange is someone I'd think of taking.

                                If it was just a fill in to hang around with the squad for a week in Japan I'd assume they'd take Strange rather than grab one of the Maori locks? Isn't Hemopo in Japan? He probably provides enough cover.

                                Yeah true, forgot about Hemopo. Wouldn't suprise me if this is Hemopo's last test in the black Jersey along with a few others.

                                It would be pretty surprising to me, and probably to the selectors also I'd say. Is he leaving rugby?

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                                @bones Got a part in the next season of Narcos. Pretty good at rolling his r's.

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                                  @bones Got a part in the next season of Narcos. Pretty good at rolling his r's.

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                                  @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                  @bones Got a part in the next season of Narcos. Pretty good at rolling his r's.

                                  More Maori taking the roles that should go to Hispanics and Arabs.

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                                    Dane Coles pulls out of captaincy race for Japan test

                                    Returning hooker Dane Coles has withdrawn himself from consideration for the All Blacks captaincy against Japan this weekend.
                                    
                                    Coles' experience among a team that will be composed of promising provincial rookies had him earmarked as a frontrunner for the role in Yokohama.
                                    
                                    But after a lengthy injury-enforced hiatus from the international fold, Coles said he wasn't interested in the additional pressure and responsibilities that come along with being skipper of the All Blacks.
                                    
                                    "Just because of the year I've had, I've got to be little bit selfish here and it's probably not the best thing for me to do," Coles said.
                                    
                                    "Whoever that is, I'll support him. I've still got a lead role, if I play, in this team to help.
                                    
                                    That will likely see the captain's armband worn by Highlanders forward, Luke Whitelock.
                                    

                                    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2018/10/all-blacks-dane-coles-pulls-out-of-captaincy-race-for-japan-test.html

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      The rise and rise of Codie Taylor continues. Another strong performance in Yokohama. I expect him to be first-choice All Blacks Holoker through to RWC 2019 and beyond.

                                      Harris, Coles, Aumua and Coltman are in competition to be the bench or backup option.

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                                      @sparky Well you can count Harris and Coltman out. They provide no impact whatsoever.

                                      If Aumua can have a big year the Hookers will be Taylor, Coles & Aumua.

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                                        @sparky Well you can count Harris and Coltman out. They provide no impact whatsoever.

                                        If Aumua can have a big year the Hookers will be Taylor, Coles & Aumua.

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                                        @canes4life Harris and Coltman are strong scrummagers, not so sure about Aumua.

                                        All three of those hookers have problems with lineout throwing. Kind of important for a hooker.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @canes4life Harris and Coltman are strong scrummagers, not so sure about Aumua.

                                          All three of those hookers have problems with lineout throwing. Kind of important for a hooker.

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                                          @bovidae Yeah but Aumua who is in his development phase of his career is already on par with Coltman and Harris, so can only see him getting better within the next year. He could be a real weapon for the All Blacks off the bench come World Cup if he can get back to peak fitness. However if Taylor & Coles stay fit they are pretty much a lock for our top 23.

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