Japan vs All Blacks
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@mn5 said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@bones said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@rocky-rockbottom said in Japan vs All Blacks:
has to be last chance saloon for NMS.
Naholo should be spewing he's been left behind with the dirty dirties. I expect a goddamn volcanic response.
He's only played 12 tests. I thought it was heaps more than that.
Hemopo looks well short in every sense of the word to be taking on the big ( again in every sense of the word ) boys as an international lock. Thank goodness it's only Japan.
( I wonder if any bok fans posted stuff like this in 2015 ? )
I'm taking you haven't seen him play. Got himself noticed by laying into absolutely everything against the Lions. Haven't noticed height ever being a problem for him - he's your workhorse type lock in the Thorn mould.
Well yeah but if being in the Thorn 'mould' was enough then we'd be fawning over 100 test AB Jarrod Hoeata.
Hoeta would have needed a 600 year playing career to reach 100 tests, factoring in his likely suspension rate.
@marty said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@bones said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@rocky-rockbottom said in Japan vs All Blacks:
has to be last chance saloon for NMS.
Naholo should be spewing he's been left behind with the dirty dirties. I expect a goddamn volcanic response.
He's only played 12 tests. I thought it was heaps more than that.
Hemopo looks well short in every sense of the word to be taking on the big ( again in every sense of the word ) boys as an international lock. Thank goodness it's only Japan.
( I wonder if any bok fans posted stuff like this in 2015 ? )
I'm taking you haven't seen him play. Got himself noticed by laying into absolutely everything against the Lions. Haven't noticed height ever being a problem for him - he's your workhorse type lock in the Thorn mould.
Well yeah but if being in the Thorn 'mould' was enough then we'd be fawning over 100 test AB Jarrod Hoeata.
Hoeta would have needed a 600 year playing career to reach 100 tests, factoring in his likely suspension rate.
Yeah true but I remember him being described as in the Thorn "mould". ( definitely one of my hatiest clichés )
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Perhaps they can give away an All Blacks place on the bench via a lottery while they’re at it...
@donsteppa said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Perhaps they can give away an All Blacks place on the bench via a lottery while they’re at it...
I'm in!
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Perhaps they can give away an All Blacks place on the bench via a lottery while they’re at it...
@donsteppa said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Perhaps they can give away an All Blacks place on the bench via a lottery while they’re at it...
So the big surprise about the new AB jersey is that it comes cheap....
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@rapido said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Awesome. Looking forward to this.
Has that "could the midweek team lose to Neath or Ulster' kind of feel to it from the touring days, except its a Saturday.
Yeah, except this counts as a test. First ever losses to Ireland and Japan would be a fucking monumental black mark against Hansen despite his record.
@no-quarter be ripe for the lynching I reckon - all of them. Someone at NZRU hq will be scurrying to find Robbie’s mobile number
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@marty said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@bones said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@rocky-rockbottom said in Japan vs All Blacks:
has to be last chance saloon for NMS.
Naholo should be spewing he's been left behind with the dirty dirties. I expect a goddamn volcanic response.
He's only played 12 tests. I thought it was heaps more than that.
Hemopo looks well short in every sense of the word to be taking on the big ( again in every sense of the word ) boys as an international lock. Thank goodness it's only Japan.
( I wonder if any bok fans posted stuff like this in 2015 ? )
I'm taking you haven't seen him play. Got himself noticed by laying into absolutely everything against the Lions. Haven't noticed height ever being a problem for him - he's your workhorse type lock in the Thorn mould.
Well yeah but if being in the Thorn 'mould' was enough then we'd be fawning over 100 test AB Jarrod Hoeata.
Hoeta would have needed a 600 year playing career to reach 100 tests, factoring in his likely suspension rate.
Yeah true but I remember him being described as in the Thorn "mould". ( definitely one of my hatiest clichés )
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@no-quarter be ripe for the lynching I reckon - all of them. Someone at NZRU hq will be scurrying to find Robbie’s mobile number
@act-crusader said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter be ripe for the lynching I reckon - all of them. Someone at NZRU hq will be scurrying to find Robbie’s mobile number
I'm ready to lynch Hansen and then blame the sole Cantabrian for the loss. Have my posts pre-prepared already.
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@bones said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@mn5 brilliant. That just became my favourite cliché.
It's no "educated right boot" or "loves to run with the ball" or "tackle had to be made" but its right down there......
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@mn5 knows his way to the line
@taniwharugby said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@mn5 knows his way to the line
Not applicable for incumbent All Black tighthead props though.
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@act-crusader said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter be ripe for the lynching I reckon - all of them. Someone at NZRU hq will be scurrying to find Robbie’s mobile number
I'm ready to lynch Hansen and then blame the sole Cantabrian for the loss. Have my posts pre-prepared already.
@no-quarter said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@act-crusader said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter be ripe for the lynching I reckon - all of them. Someone at NZRU hq will be scurrying to find Robbie’s mobile number
I'm ready to lynch Hansen and then blame the sole Cantabrian for the loss. Have my posts pre-prepared already.
Don’t worry bro, the number of Canes players in the starting lineup will be foremost in my mind should the unspeakable occur
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Eight of those guys will make the RWC squad, seven or so will probably be involved in the ABs in 2020. For the others this is the highlight of their All Blacks career.
Mixed bag of a team. Stoked to see Dane Coles back in Black. Pleased to see Dalton Papali'i there who will hopefully have a long career in Black. Delighted for Matt Proctor who has toiled away for the Hurricanes and Wellington for a couple of seasons and been the lynch pin of their backlines. George Bridge is another player who has been in excellent form for a couple of years and deserves his shot at test rugby. Ofa T is developing into a world-class prop who can play on both sides of the scrum. Patrick Tuipulotu is another playing who is beginning to deliver on his obvious talent
There are a few dodgy sections though. I can't think of a more mediocre player to have been All Black captain than Luke Whitelock. Tough seeing such a journeyman as All Black skipper. Akira Ioane should be the starting 8 for this team. Jackson Hemopo at Lock is a strange call. Bizarre to see the Crusader number 3 First Five as an All Black. Biggest bolter in years. I have seen nothing in Brent Cameron's career to suggest he is remotely a player of All Blacks quality.
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Eight of those guys will make the RWC squad, seven or so will probably be involved in the ABs in 2020. For the others this is the highlight of their All Blacks career.
Mixed bag of a team. Stoked to see Dane Coles back in Black. Pleased to see Dalton Papali'i there who will hopefully have a long career in Black. Delighted for Matt Proctor who has toiled away for the Hurricanes and Wellington for a couple of seasons and been the lynch pin of their backlines. George Bridge is another player who has been in excellent form for a couple of years and deserves his shot at test rugby. Ofa T is developing into a world-class prop who can play on both sides of the scrum. Patrick Tuipulotu is another playing who is beginning to deliver on his obvious talent
There are a few dodgy sections though. I can't think of a more mediocre player to have been All Black captain than Luke Whitelock. Tough seeing such a journeyman as All Black skipper. Akira Ioane should be the starting 8 for this team. Jackson Hemopo at Lock is a strange call. Bizarre to see the Crusader number 3 First Five as an All Black. Biggest bolter in years. I have seen nothing in Brent Cameron's career to suggest he is remotely a player of All Blacks quality.
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@sparky why is Hemopo a strange call?
Hah yeah really tough to think of mediocre players captaining the ABs. I mean who even remembers Blackadder?
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@bones Too short and light to be a modern test lock. He is the same height and five kgs lighter than the starting Openside in this Test.
Pari Pari Parkinson would have been a better choice.
@sparky said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@bones Too short and light to be a modern test lock. He is the same height and five kgs lighter than the starting Openside in this Test.
Pari Pari Parkinson would have been a better choice.
It doesn't show in his play and that's all that matters.
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@rapido said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Awesome. Looking forward to this.
Has that "could the midweek team lose to Neath or Ulster' kind of feel to it from the touring days, except its a Saturday.
Yeah, except this counts as a test. First ever losses to Ireland and Japan would be a fucking monumental black mark against Hansen despite his record.
@no-quarter said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@rapido said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Awesome. Looking forward to this.
Has that "could the midweek team lose to Neath or Ulster' kind of feel to it from the touring days, except its a Saturday.
Yeah, except this counts as a test. First ever losses to Ireland and Japan would be a fucking monumental black mark against Hansen despite his record.
Oh piss off. ABs by fiddy.
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@no-quarter said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@rapido said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Awesome. Looking forward to this.
Has that "could the midweek team lose to Neath or Ulster' kind of feel to it from the touring days, except its a Saturday.
Yeah, except this counts as a test. First ever losses to Ireland and Japan would be a fucking monumental black mark against Hansen despite his record.
Oh piss off. ABs by fiddy.
@booboo said in [Japan vs All Blacks]
Oh piss off. ABs by fiddy.
Agree with this.
All the worrywarts in this thread, ABs or NZ A or whatever are paying 1.02 on Betfair to win this game.
That is an attacking backline and solid forward pack, barring catastrophic early injury to Mo'unga, I'm picking a one sided affair.
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Jordie probably needs to have a good game ,
He is only a kid and has heaps in front of him but has kind of dropped down a little in the pecking order , I think most of us had him ahead of Dmac not so long ago ,
And now he could have the improving Bridge breathing down his neck
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Jordie probably needs to have a good game ,
He is only a kid and has heaps in front of him but has kind of dropped down a little in the pecking order , I think most of us had him ahead of Dmac not so long ago ,
And now he could have the improving Bridge breathing down his neck
@kiwiinmelb Agree with this. Jordi was exceptional in 2017 but has dropped back this year. He risks George Bridge and perhaps Will Jordan over-taking him.
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Although JB was a touch hyped (understandably makes good press with the brothers etc) he still offers a bit more to a RWC squad than those named.
At one point it was debateable which of JB or DMac was surplus though and with the rise of Mounga that is even more the case. If the DMac back to 15 experiment continues (and we will be able to judge better next week) then he may not make Japan next year. Usually only room for 4 outside backs although if DMac is still counted as 3rd 10 then JB is looking to take the 4th spot behind BFA, Ioane and Naholo.
