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  • M Machpants

    Five missed of ten tackles (or four missed of 11, fafita) vs Japan is unacceptable. I was advocating bridge in for Jordie, not Naholo, they're different player types.

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    @machpants agree he misses tackles and that is his weak point but he does things that others can't including Reiko. Just feel he is one of those players people focus on one area of his game and pick at it rather than the whole package. In that case drop Read because he is not a great ball carrier etc, etc.

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      The dodgy tries awarded to Japan to keep them in the game looked very deliberate to me. Call me a conspiracist, but trying to artificially even out the playing field is not a good look. Not even going to the TMO on a couple of them - come on...

      Imagine if similar decisions went against England next week, all hell would break loose.

      Soooo happy to see Coles back.
      Papalii, Bridge, Mo’unga, Laumape, Hemopo big ticks.

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        The main issue for Naholo going forward with ABs I think is that he will be gone after WC so will they pick him knowing that or opt for Bridge with eye to the future? NMS will/should be shown the door now so it depends if another wing steps up?

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          I think bridge is a future candidate for that right wing / hybrid fullback role that has worked so well for us .

          That’s my main concern with naholo, with reiko at 11 , I think the above type player gives us better balance .

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            When he is focused, Naholo is still a brilliant finisher.

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              When he is focused, Naholo is still a brilliant finisher.

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              @sparky said in Japan vs All Blacks:

              When he is focused, Naholo is still a brilliant finisher.

              He is , if reiko was out , he becomes a certainty imo .

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                Just watching the game now

                Pffft hahaha pimply giraffe.

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                  I really enjoyed seeing these fellas have a go and it didn't look a million miles away from our top team at times against minnows - do enough to get the win inside half an hour then fits and starts with an easy "d" day.

                  Not at all worried about a c team defensive performance. You get those young eager players together for a strange one off game, where a win is vital, and you're not going to spend a week cluttering them with stringent defence strategies. Let em run, it worked a treat.

                  Watched on replay and the first half fern comments were typically emotional. How anyone could not see this game as a win after Mounga's try, is curious.

                  Similarly anyone thinking a close to 1st XV was going to play Aus, Jpn, Eng, Ire and Italy on successive weeks, with the travel has obviously not been paying attention since 2007. Bemoaning the selections for superior players is to deny the realities of the contemporary AB way.

                  Great stuff c team, if you like, a great boon for AB succession planning.

                  Well done fish heads, lots of positives from that fixture and nary a negative 👍

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                    I enjoyed that way more than i thought i would. Watching the noobs have a crack was pretty fun, and i think they all played pretty well.

                    Stand outs for me were Hemopo, TTT, and Proctor. Mounga was good for the most part as well.

                    Fucking George Bridge. Comes on and instantly looks the best player in the field. I would be very happy to see him start next week. Class.

                    End of Jordie Barretts AB career in the short term?Already sort of on the outer, he was dogshit in the game. Fifita the other one who i thought did himself no favours. Patty T looks way better off the bench than he ever does starting.

                    Cool occasion, Japan had a crack, but were never really in the game

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                    • M Machpants

                      #learntotackle

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                      @machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                      #learntotackle

                      #heisabettertacklerthansivivatu

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                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                        I think bridge is a future candidate for that right wing / hybrid fullback role that has worked so well for us .

                        That’s my main concern with naholo, with reiko at 11 , I think the above type player gives us better balance .

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                        @kiwiinmelb said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                        I think bridge is a future candidate for that right wing / hybrid fullback role that has worked so well for us .

                        That’s my main concern with naholo, with reiko at 11 , I think the above type player gives us better balance .

                        Bridge has a touch of the Doug Howlett about him, and it’s not because they both seem to love their hair....

                        Quick, knows the try line, good chase and pretty good in traffic.

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                          #learntotackle

                          #heisabettertacklerthansivivatu

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                          @act-crusader said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                          @machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                          #learntotackle

                          #heisabettertacklerthansivivatu

                          I don't remember there being lots of complaints about Sivi's defence back in the day ... but it was so long ago now.

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @tim said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                            Hansen blamed Whitelock for the charge-down?

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/video-hansen-calls-out-all-black-captains-mistake-in-front-of-tokyo-press-conference

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                            @duluth ffs Hansen sees no wrong in Jordie Barrett ,go back over this year he has had a poor year and has been charged down a few times.
                            He’s slow when punting the ball you could have 10 blockers in front he still would punt from the front line like a draught horse and will continue to have charge downs.
                            Why was Mounga taking the high catch kick offs and not the much taller Barrett who stayed in the pocket for the clearance.

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                #learntotackle

                                #heisabettertacklerthansivivatu

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                                @act-crusader said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                @machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                #learntotackle

                                #heisabettertacklerthansivivatu

                                And he got dropped for poor defence and we started the current trend of two full backs and one winger. So your point is....?

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                                  @duluth ffs Hansen sees no wrong in Jordie Barrett ,go back over this year he has had a poor year and has been charged down a few times.
                                  He’s slow when punting the ball you could have 10 blockers in front he still would punt from the front line like a draught horse and will continue to have charge downs.
                                  Why was Mounga taking the high catch kick offs and not the much taller Barrett who stayed in the pocket for the clearance.

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                                  @chris said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                  @duluth ffs Hansen sees no wrong in Jordie Barrett ,go back over this year he has had a poor year and has been charged down a few times.

                                  Totally agree. Look at the trajectory of JB's kicks. He kicks the ball so low that chargedowns are always a possibility.

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                                    I still believe Barrett could have played a few more years at NPC /Super level before taking that step up to International. I've got no doubts he is going to be a long term All Black, but right now I think he should be back home cooling his heels for the summer.

                                    Long term I see his best position being 12 where he looked fairly impressive in the lower grades, however with Laumape starting to show a full array of skills there may not be any room, especially at the Hurricanes anyway. As a Canes fan, I 100% agree thay J Barrett should be swapped out for Bridge, for the remainder of the end of year tour.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @chris said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                      @duluth ffs Hansen sees no wrong in Jordie Barrett ,go back over this year he has had a poor year and has been charged down a few times.

                                      Totally agree. Look at the trajectory of JB's kicks. He kicks the ball so low that chargedowns are always a possibility.

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                                      @bovidae said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                      @chris said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                      @duluth ffs Hansen sees no wrong in Jordie Barrett ,go back over this year he has had a poor year and has been charged down a few times.

                                      Totally agree. Look at the trajectory of JB's kicks. He kicks the ball so low that chargedowns are always a possibility.

                                      Getting 2010 flashbacks to comments about Dagg

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @chris said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                        @duluth ffs Hansen sees no wrong in Jordie Barrett ,go back over this year he has had a poor year and has been charged down a few times.

                                        Totally agree. Look at the trajectory of JB's kicks. He kicks the ball so low that chargedowns are always a possibility.

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                                        @bovidae Absolutely

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @act-crusader said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                          @machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                          #learntotackle

                                          #heisabettertacklerthansivivatu

                                          And he got dropped for poor defence and we started the current trend of two full backs and one winger. So your point is....?

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                                          @machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                          @act-crusader said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                          @machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:

                                          #learntotackle

                                          #heisabettertacklerthansivivatu

                                          And he got dropped for poor defence and we started the current trend of two full backs and one winger. So your point is....?

                                          Sivi’s defence was dire when he started with the Chiefs and he still got selected for the ABs. So your point is?

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