England vs All Blacks
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@chris-b said in England vs All Blacks:
I guess Angus is yet another who plays both sides?
According to Hansen, yes. He was selected over Perry for that reason.
@bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:
@chris-b said in England vs All Blacks:
I guess Angus is yet another who plays both sides?
According to Hansen, yes. He was selected over Perry for that reason.
Anyone ever seen him play there?
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Excellent lineup. Although I would’ve gone with Crotty and Goodhue starting, Mo’unga at 10, Bridge on the wing, Todd at 7....
The main thing for me is whether the ABs will play at that break neck pace in the first half that we’ve seen so far this year. I hope we do and hoping Aaron Smith and Barrett play a little flatter.
@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
Excellent lineup. Although I would’ve gone with Crotty and Goodhue starting, Mo’unga at 10, Bridge on the wing, Todd at 7....
The main thing for me is whether the ABs will play at that break neck pace in the first half that we’ve seen so far this year. I hope we do and hoping Aaron Smith and Barrett play a little flatter.
Poms will doing everything they can to slow it down. One trick BL used was to get someone to rush up to disrupt/discourage quick lineouts. Also mud in eye, etc. at lineout and scrum time a la Wobblies circa 2000.
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@mikethesnow said in England vs All Blacks:
@victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
Worked in Sth Wales for 2 years. The likes of Jason Leonard, Will Carling & Robshaw etc, were regarded as top blokes while the likes of Mike Brown or Matt Dawson were seen as twats.
Personally, I think the Welsh just have a finely developed sense of which players are pricks to lose to...
Oh, and Jonathan "space out wide, space out wide" Davies was regarded as a complete tosser for some reason
Yep.
Last 3 of 5 speakers at my local club's annual dinner have been English - Jon Bentley, Andy Rippley, Shaun Edwards.
All have delivered heartfelt and honest talks, taken some tough Q&As, and stuck around and stayed over to drink the night away and talk bollocks with the boys.
Leg Ends.
The dislike of Jonathan Davies by some may be down to his family circumstances rather than his playing career. Won't elaborate but he might not be whiter than white if you get my drift.
Last 5 years, are you sure it was Andy Ripley, Mike? If it was I hope the medium got a bloody good fee. The great man died in 2010
@disgusted-of-tw said in England vs All Blacks:
@mikethesnow said in England vs All Blacks:
@victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
Worked in Sth Wales for 2 years. The likes of Jason Leonard, Will Carling & Robshaw etc, were regarded as top blokes while the likes of Mike Brown or Matt Dawson were seen as twats.
Personally, I think the Welsh just have a finely developed sense of which players are pricks to lose to...
Oh, and Jonathan "space out wide, space out wide" Davies was regarded as a complete tosser for some reason
Yep.
Last 3 of 5 speakers at my local club's annual dinner have been English - Jon Bentley, Andy Rippley, Shaun Edwards.
All have delivered heartfelt and honest talks, taken some tough Q&As, and stuck around and stayed over to drink the night away and talk bollocks with the boys.
Leg Ends.
The dislike of Jonathan Davies by some may be down to his family circumstances rather than his playing career. Won't elaborate but he might not be whiter than white if you get my drift.
Last 5 years, are you sure it was Andy Ripley, Mike? If it was I hope the medium got a bloody good fee. The great man died in 2010
Shit you're right. Oldtimers kicked in there.
Meant to say David Duckham.
Oops.
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@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
Excellent lineup. Although I would’ve gone with Crotty and Goodhue starting, Mo’unga at 10, Bridge on the wing, Todd at 7....
The main thing for me is whether the ABs will play at that break neck pace in the first half that we’ve seen so far this year. I hope we do and hoping Aaron Smith and Barrett play a little flatter.
Poms will doing everything they can to slow it down. One trick BL used was to get someone to rush up to disrupt/discourage quick lineouts. Also mud in eye, etc. at lineout and scrum time a la Wobblies circa 2000.
@pakman said in England vs All Blacks:
@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
Excellent lineup. Although I would’ve gone with Crotty and Goodhue starting, Mo’unga at 10, Bridge on the wing, Todd at 7....
The main thing for me is whether the ABs will play at that break neck pace in the first half that we’ve seen so far this year. I hope we do and hoping Aaron Smith and Barrett play a little flatter.
Poms will doing everything they can to slow it down. One trick BL used was to get someone to rush up to disrupt/discourage quick lineouts. Also mud in eye, etc. at lineout and scrum time a la Wobblies circa 2000.
I agree that they will try to slow it down, but the Wallabies and Boks tried to do that as well. Even it that loss to the Boks we were able to play at a fast pace in the 1st 40
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@number9 said in England vs All Blacks:
Ofa is not a Loosehead, should have selected Perry.
Funny how Ta'avao and Ofa have both swapped sides.
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@number9 said in England vs All Blacks:
Ofa is not a Loosehead, should have selected Perry.
Funny how Ta'avao and Ofa have both swapped sides.
I think I might trust Cron on this call.
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@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
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@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo NZ POlitics one IIRC....
Oh no wonder. Just going off the title that sounds like the most boring thread ever.
I suggest going to the "Alternative from Stuff" thread and trying to find some sort of seafood that hasn't been mentioned in the last few hundred posts.
@mn5 said in England vs All Blacks:
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo NZ POlitics one IIRC....
Oh no wonder. Just going off the title that sounds like the most boring thread ever.
I suggest going to the "Alternative from Stuff" thread and trying to find some sort of seafood that hasn't been mentioned in the last few hundred posts.
Razor Clams
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@disgusted-of-tw said in England vs All Blacks:
@mikethesnow said in England vs All Blacks:
@victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
Worked in Sth Wales for 2 years. The likes of Jason Leonard, Will Carling & Robshaw etc, were regarded as top blokes while the likes of Mike Brown or Matt Dawson were seen as twats.
Personally, I think the Welsh just have a finely developed sense of which players are pricks to lose to...
Oh, and Jonathan "space out wide, space out wide" Davies was regarded as a complete tosser for some reason
Yep.
Last 3 of 5 speakers at my local club's annual dinner have been English - Jon Bentley, Andy Rippley, Shaun Edwards.
All have delivered heartfelt and honest talks, taken some tough Q&As, and stuck around and stayed over to drink the night away and talk bollocks with the boys.
Leg Ends.
The dislike of Jonathan Davies by some may be down to his family circumstances rather than his playing career. Won't elaborate but he might not be whiter than white if you get my drift.
Last 5 years, are you sure it was Andy Ripley, Mike? If it was I hope the medium got a bloody good fee. The great man died in 2010
Shit you're right. Oldtimers kicked in there.
Meant to say David Duckham.
Oops.
@mikethesnow I met Mr Duckham when I was a kid - he even passed the ball to me and I got his autograph - definetly a top bloke
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@bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:
@chris-b said in England vs All Blacks:
I guess Angus is yet another who plays both sides?
According to Hansen, yes. He was selected over Perry for that reason.
Anyone ever seen him play there?
@pakman said in England vs All Blacks:
Anyone ever seen him play there?
I don't remember Ta'avao playing at LH for the Chiefs or Taranaki. Cron obviously thinks he can.
The only other option was Reuben O'Neill who has played both sides for Taranaki this year, and that was one of the reasons he went to Japan.
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@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
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@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
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@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
And imagine if the giraffe was at centre
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@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
And imagine if the giraffe was at centre
@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
And imagine if the giraffe was at centre
That's unlike you @ACT-Crusader.
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@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
And imagine if the giraffe was at centre
That's unlike you @ACT-Crusader.
Are you suggesting a Hurricanes backline?@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
And imagine if the giraffe was at centre
That's unlike you @ACT-Crusader.
Are you suggesting a Hurricanes backline?Sorry is this the Japan test thread
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@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@number9 said in England vs All Blacks:
Ofa is not a Loosehead, should have selected Perry.
Funny how Ta'avao and Ofa have both swapped sides.
I think I might trust Cron on this call.
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@number9 said in England vs All Blacks:
Ofa is not a Loosehead, should have selected Perry.
Funny how Ta'avao and Ofa have both swapped sides.
I think I might trust Cron on this call.
Not saying it's wrong. Just noting this is the opposite to where they first played together at the Blues/ Auckland
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@nevorian said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo they wouldn't be expecting Goodhue to see out the full 80 either would they?
Not really sure. Umm ... where did I discuss Goodhue?
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England team to play the All Blacks:-
England: Elliot Daly; Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs; Ben Moon, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Sam Underhill, Mark Wilson.
Replacements: Jamie George, Alec Hepburn, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Courtney Lawes, Danny Care, George Ford, Jack Nowell.
I think beer will be my friend on Saturday.
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England team to play the All Blacks:-
England: Elliot Daly; Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs; Ben Moon, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Sam Underhill, Mark Wilson.
Replacements: Jamie George, Alec Hepburn, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Courtney Lawes, Danny Care, George Ford, Jack Nowell.
I think beer will be my friend on Saturday.
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@catogrande actually a pretty stroong looking side.
Who's missing apart from a Samoan and the Tongans?
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande actually a pretty stroong looking side.
Who's missing apart from a Samoan and the Tongans?
Well, there's the Fijian... Also Curry, Robshaw, Launchbury, Watson, Joseph, all out injured and all likely to have started. Marler retired.
Edit: That sounds like an excuse in the making but not meant as so. The way we've been playing I don't think the injured guys would make a heck of a lot of difference.
