England vs All Blacks
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@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo NZ POlitics one IIRC....
Oh no wonder. Just going off the title that sounds like the most boring thread ever.
I suggest going to the "Alternative from Stuff" thread and trying to find some sort of seafood that hasn't been mentioned in the last few hundred posts.
@mn5 said in England vs All Blacks:
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo NZ POlitics one IIRC....
Oh no wonder. Just going off the title that sounds like the most boring thread ever.
I suggest going to the "Alternative from Stuff" thread and trying to find some sort of seafood that hasn't been mentioned in the last few hundred posts.
Razor Clams
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@disgusted-of-tw said in England vs All Blacks:
@mikethesnow said in England vs All Blacks:
@victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
Worked in Sth Wales for 2 years. The likes of Jason Leonard, Will Carling & Robshaw etc, were regarded as top blokes while the likes of Mike Brown or Matt Dawson were seen as twats.
Personally, I think the Welsh just have a finely developed sense of which players are pricks to lose to...
Oh, and Jonathan "space out wide, space out wide" Davies was regarded as a complete tosser for some reason
Yep.
Last 3 of 5 speakers at my local club's annual dinner have been English - Jon Bentley, Andy Rippley, Shaun Edwards.
All have delivered heartfelt and honest talks, taken some tough Q&As, and stuck around and stayed over to drink the night away and talk bollocks with the boys.
Leg Ends.
The dislike of Jonathan Davies by some may be down to his family circumstances rather than his playing career. Won't elaborate but he might not be whiter than white if you get my drift.
Last 5 years, are you sure it was Andy Ripley, Mike? If it was I hope the medium got a bloody good fee. The great man died in 2010
Shit you're right. Oldtimers kicked in there.
Meant to say David Duckham.
Oops.
@mikethesnow I met Mr Duckham when I was a kid - he even passed the ball to me and I got his autograph - definetly a top bloke
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@bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:
@chris-b said in England vs All Blacks:
I guess Angus is yet another who plays both sides?
According to Hansen, yes. He was selected over Perry for that reason.
Anyone ever seen him play there?
@pakman said in England vs All Blacks:
Anyone ever seen him play there?
I don't remember Ta'avao playing at LH for the Chiefs or Taranaki. Cron obviously thinks he can.
The only other option was Reuben O'Neill who has played both sides for Taranaki this year, and that was one of the reasons he went to Japan.
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@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
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@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
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@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
And imagine if the giraffe was at centre
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@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
And imagine if the giraffe was at centre
@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
And imagine if the giraffe was at centre
That's unlike you @ACT-Crusader.
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@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
And imagine if the giraffe was at centre
That's unlike you @ACT-Crusader.
Are you suggesting a Hurricanes backline?@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
No way. He's too tall.
The pass trajectory is fine. From the ground via halfback to 6'2 BB to 7'2 Ardie.
And imagine if the giraffe was at centre
That's unlike you @ACT-Crusader.
Are you suggesting a Hurricanes backline?Sorry is this the Japan test thread
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@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@number9 said in England vs All Blacks:
Ofa is not a Loosehead, should have selected Perry.
Funny how Ta'avao and Ofa have both swapped sides.
I think I might trust Cron on this call.
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@number9 said in England vs All Blacks:
Ofa is not a Loosehead, should have selected Perry.
Funny how Ta'avao and Ofa have both swapped sides.
I think I might trust Cron on this call.
Not saying it's wrong. Just noting this is the opposite to where they first played together at the Blues/ Auckland
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@nevorian said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo they wouldn't be expecting Goodhue to see out the full 80 either would they?
Not really sure. Umm ... where did I discuss Goodhue?
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England team to play the All Blacks:-
England: Elliot Daly; Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs; Ben Moon, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Sam Underhill, Mark Wilson.
Replacements: Jamie George, Alec Hepburn, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Courtney Lawes, Danny Care, George Ford, Jack Nowell.
I think beer will be my friend on Saturday.
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England team to play the All Blacks:-
England: Elliot Daly; Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs; Ben Moon, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Sam Underhill, Mark Wilson.
Replacements: Jamie George, Alec Hepburn, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Courtney Lawes, Danny Care, George Ford, Jack Nowell.
I think beer will be my friend on Saturday.
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@catogrande actually a pretty stroong looking side.
Who's missing apart from a Samoan and the Tongans?
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande actually a pretty stroong looking side.
Who's missing apart from a Samoan and the Tongans?
Well, there's the Fijian... Also Curry, Robshaw, Launchbury, Watson, Joseph, all out injured and all likely to have started. Marler retired.
Edit: That sounds like an excuse in the making but not meant as so. The way we've been playing I don't think the injured guys would make a heck of a lot of difference.
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@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande actually a pretty stroong looking side.
Who's missing apart from a Samoan and the Tongans?
Well, there's the Fijian... Also Curry, Robshaw, Launchbury, Watson, Joseph, all out injured and all likely to have started. Marler retired.
Edit: That sounds like an excuse in the making but not meant as so. The way we've been playing I don't think the injured guys would make a heck of a lot of difference.
@catogrande said in England vs All Blacks:
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande actually a pretty stroong looking side.
Who's missing apart from a Samoan and the Tongans?
Well, there's the Fijian... Also Curry, Robshaw, Launchbury, Watson, Joseph, all out injured and all likely to have started. Marler retired.
Edit: That sounds like an excuse in the making but not meant as so. The way we've been playing I don't think the injured guys would make a heck of a lot of difference.
If you have a system that relentlessly flogs its players 13 months a year, then you get a load of injuries. Zero sympathy.
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@nevorian said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo they wouldn't be expecting Goodhue to see out the full 80 either would they?
Not really sure. Umm ... where did I discuss Goodhue?
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@nevorian said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo they wouldn't be expecting Goodhue to see out the full 80 either would they?
Not really sure. Umm ... where did I discuss Goodhue?
I think that's referring to the
@gunner - What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
@booboo - Ardie to 2nd 5/8?So... of the 3 mid-fielders, 2 have reputations of breaking down, and the other is playing first game after an infection which causes one to "run out of gas" very very quickly.
Ardie at 2nd 5/8 suddenly looking like something that might really happen. -
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande actually a pretty stroong looking side.
Who's missing apart from a Samoan and the Tongans?
Well, there's the Fijian... Also Curry, Robshaw, Launchbury, Watson, Joseph, all out injured and all likely to have started. Marler retired.
Edit: That sounds like an excuse in the making but not meant as so. The way we've been playing I don't think the injured guys would make a heck of a lot of difference.
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Very glad to see Coles and Mounga in the 23.
This will be a proper test of how DMac handles 15.
@kiwimurph said in England vs All Blacks:
This will be a proper test of how DMac handles 15.
Yes, Ironically. All those games at 15 he played against Sth Africa, Wales, the Wobbles, Argentina. France and Scotland were a walk in the park.... :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
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@catogrande yeah, there doesn't seem a huge amount between them and those that have replaced them.
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@catogrande yeah, there doesn't seem a huge amount between them and those that have replaced them.
Launchbury is a loss. We have good strength in depth at lock but he's the best of the bunch IMO - Gatland thinks otherwise as he didn't get a look in for the Lions, so what do I know?
Watson has shown he knows the way to the try line at all levels so he'd be a shoo-in, probably at 15 which would make the back three with him, then Daly and May look pretty good. Daly at 15 is just not the same for me.
So those two really would make a difference I reckon but unlikely to have made enough of a difference on Saturday.
