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England vs All Blacks

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @jegga better than the annual 'get rid of the Haka' crap we usually get from the NH media.

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    @taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:

    @jegga better than the annual 'get rid of the Haka' crap we usually get from the NH media.

    Yeah , he’s always been the master at trolling. The nh media not so much

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      #256

      bit of a loooong wait for this match, in real time and the build up this week!

      Hate to think what next week will be like if we get rolled, shades of 2007?

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        'king hell. I'm at Twickenham on Saturday on a corporate invite and have just had an email asking which white wine I'd prefer....

        Beyond surreal.

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        @victor-meldrew said in England vs All Blacks:

        'king hell. I'm at Twickenham on Saturday on a corporate invite and have just had an email asking which white wine I'd prefer....

        Beyond surreal.

        Beer

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          @mikethesnow haha that would suggest England are going to score a try?

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          @nevorian said in England vs All Blacks:

          @mikethesnow haha that would suggest England are going to score a try?

          I think (think) @mikethesnow was suggesting a margin between 16 and 21. Five points isn't a 'canter'.

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            @kiwiinmelb said in England vs All Blacks:

            Interesting Shag saying , we want to play two playmakers ,

            The argument he makes seems to make more sense with Beaudy at fullback and Richie and first-five. Having two points of attack to take the defence's focus off one is a great idea in theory, but if the English defence start forcing Barrett to make errors I expect McKenzie to as well. When the poor option taking happens it seems to be contagious with those two.

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            @rotated said in England vs All Blacks:

            @kiwiinmelb said in England vs All Blacks:

            Interesting Shag saying , we want to play two playmakers ,

            The argument he makes seems to make more sense with Beaudy at fullback and Richie and first-five. Having two points of attack to take the defence's focus off one is a great idea in theory, but if the English defence start forcing Barrett to make errors I expect McKenzie to as well. When the poor option taking happens it seems to be contagious with those two.

            I suspect that might be the longer term plan , but want to ease Richie into it ,

            In this game he will get game time at 10 , Beaudy back to FB ,

            I would not be surprised to see him starting next year and McKenzie back to the bench

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              @act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:

              @voodoo said in England vs All Blacks:

              @rotated said in England vs All Blacks:

              Call me a doomsdayer but that backline feels very much like a '99/'00 backline. Looks like a Rolls Royce on paper and certainly has the ability to click - but that is far from a guarantee especially when it matters.

              The least charitable description of the backline currently is three guys who are liable to freelance and compound mistakes under pressure, a halfback who has been spinning his wheels all international season, a guy dubiously coming back from glandular fever in a matter of weeks and two world class wings.

              This isn't to say Barrett isn't a top player, SBW can still have his moments and Smith for most of his career has been sublime - but like the 99/00 teams they could turn it on (especially off set piece and counter attack) but could be frustratingly impotent at times when it mattered.

              Prediction: they either flog them 20+ or it's 3.

              100% agree

              I'm really not enamored with SBW these days. I'd be surprised if Goodhue and anyone outside him gets any decent ball other than through the "omg never expected that" 1 handed offload in contact. And I'd much prefer ALB on the bench to Crotty.

              But its McKenzie I'm most worried about / interested to see. I hope he either has an absolute blinder and proves me wrong in my view that he's just not up to international football at 10 or 15, OR that he has a complete disaster and we dont see him in the 23 again for big games.

              I’m really looking forward to seeing McKenzie run across field. Will it be once, twice or perhaps three times

              Ben Blair must look back in shock and awe that the ABs have picked a fullback even smaller than him !

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              @mn5 pretty sure when Ben Blair (our last midget 15) played at Twickers we lost...

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              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                @rotated said in England vs All Blacks:

                @kiwiinmelb said in England vs All Blacks:

                Interesting Shag saying , we want to play two playmakers ,

                The argument he makes seems to make more sense with Beaudy at fullback and Richie and first-five. Having two points of attack to take the defence's focus off one is a great idea in theory, but if the English defence start forcing Barrett to make errors I expect McKenzie to as well. When the poor option taking happens it seems to be contagious with those two.

                I suspect that might be the longer term plan , but want to ease Richie into it ,

                In this game he will get game time at 10 , Beaudy back to FB ,

                I would not be surprised to see him starting next year and McKenzie back to the bench

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                @kiwiinmelb said in England vs All Blacks:

                @rotated said in England vs All Blacks:

                @kiwiinmelb said in England vs All Blacks:

                Interesting Shag saying , we want to play two playmakers ,

                The argument he makes seems to make more sense with Beaudy at fullback and Richie and first-five. Having two points of attack to take the defence's focus off one is a great idea in theory, but if the English defence start forcing Barrett to make errors I expect McKenzie to as well. When the poor option taking happens it seems to be contagious with those two.

                I suspect that might be the longer term plan , but want to ease Richie into it ,

                In this game he will get game time at 10 , Beaudy back to FB ,

                I would not be surprised to see him starting next year and McKenzie back to the bench NPC

                Fixed :winking_face:

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @mn5 pretty sure when Ben Blair (our last midget 15) played at Twickers we lost...

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                  @taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:

                  @mn5 pretty sure when Ben Blair (our last midget 15) played at Twickers we lost...

                  Yes, rather worrying.

                  Also the following year when Caleb Ralph had a shocker too.

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                    Tu'inukuafe is much better (and bigger) than McDonnell. I won't even mention that Cantablack no.8.

                    Besides, Mitchell is in the other camp this Sat. πŸ™‚

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      Tu'inukuafe is much better (and bigger) than McDonnell. I won't even mention that Cantablack no.8.

                      Besides, Mitchell is in the other camp this Sat. πŸ™‚

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                      @bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:

                      Tu'inukuafe is much better (and bigger) than McDonnell. I won't even mention that Cantablack no.8.

                      Besides, Mitchell is in the other camp this Sat. πŸ™‚

                      I'm not convinced SBW is better than Keith Lowen

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                        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-6369451/So-Black-dab-hand-milking-cows-Lima-Sopoaga-reveals-ahead-Twickenham-Test.html

                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/power-ranking-the-all-blacks-based-on-lima-sopoaga-anecdotes

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                        • TimT Tim

                          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-6369451/So-Black-dab-hand-milking-cows-Lima-Sopoaga-reveals-ahead-Twickenham-Test.html

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/power-ranking-the-all-blacks-based-on-lima-sopoaga-anecdotes

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                          @tim not bad.

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                            16 games is not a veteran.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              16 games is not a veteran.

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                              @bones said in England vs All Blacks:

                              16 games is not a veteran.

                              i didn't even read the article but that jumped out at me!

                              Fucking veteran...

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @nevorian said in England vs All Blacks:

                                @mikethesnow haha that would suggest England are going to score a try?

                                I think (think) @mikethesnow was suggesting a margin between 16 and 21. Five points isn't a 'canter'.

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                                @booboo said in England vs All Blacks:

                                @nevorian said in England vs All Blacks:

                                @mikethesnow haha that would suggest England are going to score a try?

                                I think (think) @mikethesnow was suggesting a margin between 16 and 21. Five points isn't a 'canter'.

                                Correct πŸ‘

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @bones said in England vs All Blacks:

                                  16 games is not a veteran.

                                  i didn't even read the article but that jumped out at me!

                                  Fucking veteran...

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                                  @mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:

                                  @bones said in England vs All Blacks:

                                  16 games is not a veteran.

                                  i didn't even read the article but that jumped out at me!

                                  Fucking veteran...

                                  16 Tests for the ABs is like 50 for other countries

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                                    So Jerome "we have a deal" Garces is the ref this weekend. We rarely win convincingly at Twickenham and I'm not expecting us to pump them this time. We should be on high alert

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                                      If he keeps it up he will supplant Barnes on my refs wall of shame

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                                        @rocky-rockbottom said in England vs All Blacks:

                                        Reply in French, "Chateau Onehunga".

                                        :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @nevorian said in England vs All Blacks:

                                          @mikethesnow haha that would suggest England are going to score a try?

                                          I think (think) @mikethesnow was suggesting a margin between 16 and 21. Five points isn't a 'canter'.

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                                          @booboo oh makes sense. But is a canter less than a trot less than a gallop. I expect the ABs in a gallop 16-45

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