England vs All Blacks
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Having mulled things over, for me England's chances rely on disrupting our lineout. Itoje and Kruis are a very good unit, and were effective for Lions. Less competent at back, so some planning will have gone into shutting down Read.
If we get quick ball off the top will be a long day for the MWWW.
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Of the apparently 16 players missing for Ingalund is it possible to get a list and rank them in terms of their position?
As an example NZ is missing the number one and number three ranked LHPs (Moody, Hames).
Even just a list so we can start trying to work out how badly affected the Poms actually are.
Thanks in anticipation.
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
Of the apparently 16 players missing for Ingalund is it possible to get a list and rank them in terms of their position?
As an example NZ is missing the number one and number three ranked LHPs (Moody, Hames).
Even just a list so we can start trying to work out how badly affected the Poms actually are.
Thanks in anticipation.
Off the top of my head:
Loosehead: M Vunipola, Marler (retired), Mullen, Genge, Obano
Lock: Launchbury, Lawes has recovered to make the bench
Flankers: Robshaw, Curry
Number 8: B Vunipola, Hughes, Simmonds, Clifford, Morgan
Scrum-half: Robson
Centres: Joseph, Tuilagi (unsure if he's still injured or just unselected), Lozowski (banned)
Back 3: WatsonOf those, I'd say Vunipola, Launchbury, Robshaw, Curry and Watson would have been likely starters, and Joseph/Lozowski would have been pushing Slade hard.
But the bigger problem than missing starters (which we're used to) is how far down the depth chart we're having to go at loosehead and 8. Moon is a journeyman prop who used to play in the Championship (one league below the premiership) and Wilson is a jack-of-all-trades 6 being played out of position at the base of the scrum.
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@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@crucial
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/108485774/all-blacks-v-england-discipline-vital-for-abs-with-jerome-garces-as-ref?cid=facebook.post.108485774Because with other refs discipline is not important...?
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@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
Of the apparently 16 players missing for Ingalund is it possible to get a list and rank them in terms of their position?
As an example NZ is missing the number one and number three ranked LHPs (Moody, Hames).
Even just a list so we can start trying to work out how badly affected the Poms actually are.
Thanks in anticipation.
Off the top of my head:
Loosehead: M Vunipola, Marler (retired), Mullen, Genge, Obano
Lock: Launchbury, Lawes has recovered to make the bench
Flankers: Robshaw, Curry
Number 8: B Vunipola, Hughes, Simmonds, Clifford, Morgan
Scrum-half: Robson
Centres: Joseph, Tuilagi (unsure if he's still injured or just unselected), Lozowski (banned)
Back 3: WatsonOf those, I'd say Vunipola, Launchbury, Robshaw, Curry and Watson would have been likely starters, and Joseph/Lozowski would have been pushing Slade hard.
But the bigger problem than missing starters (which we're used to) is how far down the depth chart we're having to go at loosehead and 8. Moon is a journeyman prop who used to play in the Championship (one league below the premiership) and Wilson is a jack-of-all-trades 6 being played out of position at the base of the scrum.
@simonadd_2 we're playing a loosehead who pretty much only took up rugby a year ago.
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@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@crucial
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/108485774/all-blacks-v-england-discipline-vital-for-abs-with-jerome-garces-as-ref?cid=facebook.post.108485774Because with other refs discipline is not important...?
@billy-tell correct, they're in our pocket.
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@simonadd_2 we're playing a loosehead who pretty much only took up rugby a year ago.
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@simonadd_2 we're playing a loosehead who pretty much only took up rugby a year ago.
Wow, he must be really good to establish himself as the second-best loosehead in New Zealand in such a short time. Will look out for him.
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Luckily for those relying on trains to get to the ground.
"RMT industrial action planned for this date has been cancelled. We plan to run a full service on this day subject to engineering works."
@crucial said in England vs All Blacks:
Luckily for those relying on trains to get to the ground.
"RMT industrial action planned for this date has been cancelled. We plan to run a full service on this day subject to engineering works."
Trains from Clapham OK.
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My tickets fell through so me and a mate are heading out to Twickenham now to 'negotiate'. Added bit of a excitement before the game ...
Any sure things from Ferners heading to game, gratefully received.
@scribe said in England vs All Blacks:
My tickets fell through so me and a mate are heading out to Twickenham now to 'negotiate'. Added bit of a excitement before the game ...
Tell them to look out for the bloke with the whistle he will be very eager to offer them a “deal”.
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@sparky said in England vs All Blacks:
It was a beautiful morning now heavy rain. I hope somehow it avoids Twickenham... .
:::Doesn't look like it will on the rain radar. Coming directly from the west but at the speed it is going it may just pass over by kickoff or soon after
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@sparky said in England vs All Blacks:
It was a beautiful morning now heavy rain. I hope somehow it avoids Twickenham... .
:::Doesn't look like it will on the rain radar. Coming directly from the west but at the speed it is going it may just pass over by kickoff or soon after
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Fucken rain
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Last post and minute's silence on 100th anniversary of the Armistice. Thinking of these very good men:
https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/34117/pioneer-battalion-performing-a-haka
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_rugby_union_players_killed_in_World_War_I
