Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)
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Bernie McCahill wasn't really that small for the era, ourother 12s around that time were Schuster and Taylor and they were all a similar size. Edit: I forgot Little ... who was actually in the team.
@nepia said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Bernie McCahill wasn't really that small for the era, ourother 12s around that time were Schuster and Taylor and they were all a similar size. Edit: I forgot Little ... who was actually in the team.
To put it into context, Innes was considered a big midfielder for that era but was lighter than Aaron Smith.
McCahill benefitted from being in that dominant Auckland team so he's the Broomhall of the late 1980s/early 1990s.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
I'm not sure if they all played together on the same team, but Deans, Fox, McCahill, Wright and Crowley would have to be up there with the least physically imposing ABs of all time.
Deans no - but Fox McCahill and Wright were all in the run on team that were outclassed by Oz in the 91 RWC semi in Dublin.
@dogmeat said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
I'm not sure if they all played together on the same team, but Deans, Fox, McCahill, Wright and Crowley would have to be up there with the least physically imposing ABs of all time.
Deans no - but Fox McCahill and Wright were all in the run on team that were outclassed by Oz in the 91 RWC semi in Dublin.
Was thinking they may have all played together on the 89 tour but Crowley wasn't even selected.
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Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
According to his stats, he was 83kg. That's probably lighter than Andrew Mehrtens.
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@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
According to his stats, he was 83kg. That's probably lighter than Andrew Mehrtens.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
According to his stats, he was 83kg. That's probably lighter than Andrew Mehrtens.
Debatable in his playing days, certainly no contest since Mehrts discovered the piss and the pies.
Can confirm that Berry is a big unit in real life though, obviously they weighed him at about 16 years old and never updated it.
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@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
According to his stats, he was 83kg. That's probably lighter than Andrew Mehrtens.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
According to his stats, he was 83kg. That's probably lighter than Andrew Mehrtens.
That’s not saying much.Have you seen Mehrtens lately?
He was at the cafe when I had breakfast with Joe Moody , Jerome Kaino , Damien McKenzie and Liam Squire . Mehrts defence was always a bit suspect but he can tackle any buffet by the looks of him. -
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
According to his stats, he was 83kg. That's probably lighter than Andrew Mehrtens.
That’s not saying much.Have you seen Mehrtens lately?
He was at the cafe when I had breakfast with Joe Moody , Jerome Kaino , Damien McKenzie and Liam Squire . Mehrts defence was always a bit suspect but he can tackle any buffet by the looks of him. -
@no-quarter 10/10
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@jegga shit, you had breakfast with those guys, surprised you hadnt mentioned it before!
@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jegga shit, you had breakfast with those guys, surprised you hadnt mentioned it before!
I just assumed he had a standing breakfast date with them whenever they weren't on tour.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
According to his stats, he was 83kg. That's probably lighter than Andrew Mehrtens.
That’s not saying much.Have you seen Mehrtens lately?
He was at the cafe when I had breakfast with Joe Moody , Jerome Kaino , Damien McKenzie and Liam Squire . Mehrts defence was always a bit suspect but he can tackle any buffet by the looks of him.@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
According to his stats, he was 83kg. That's probably lighter than Andrew Mehrtens.
That’s not saying much.Have you seen Mehrtens lately?
He was at the cafe when I had breakfast with Joe Moody , Jerome Kaino , Damien McKenzie and Liam Squire . Mehrts defence was always a bit suspect but he can tackle any buffet by the looks of him.His old mate Marshall still looks fighting fit, perhaps he exchanged his rig for a brain.
Mehrts looks like hes about to sweat and pass out from having his tie on too tight.
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With the Irish having beaten us now, does this reduce the pressure on them to beat us again, or increase it, especially with home fans wanting to experience beating the ABs?
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A couple of days out from the biggest test since the Lions and all we have is a bunch of blokes reminiscing about players from 30 odd years ago.
What is going on?Hopefully the coaches spring some selection surprises like dropping BB and BBBR, recalling Luatua, Piutau and Ngatai, Starting Dmac at 10 and Jordie at 15 and bringing in Akira and Michael Collins in from NZ. That might get the conversation back on track.
Really hard to pick this game with the year we have had. It could be a blow out or could be one of those frustrating, error ridden, tight games.
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I, for one, am fucking nervous. This has banana skin written all over it. A depleted Irish side at home, some AB players out of form and who have never played particularly well against Ireland (A Smith, I'm looking at you) and a defence that is sieve-like in containment. Added to that, the game vs England was a real grind and this Irish pack is not exactly shrinking violets in physical confrontation - yeah I'm not exactly seeing the ABs blowing them away by any stretch.
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I, for one, am fucking nervous. This has banana skin written all over it. A depleted Irish side at home, some AB players out of form and who have never played particularly well against Ireland (A Smith, I'm looking at you) and a defence that is sieve-like in containment. Added to that, the game vs England was a real grind and this Irish pack is not exactly shrinking violets in physical confrontation - yeah I'm not exactly seeing the ABs blowing them away by any stretch.
@synicbast conveniently, Ireland beat England 24-15 at Twickenham - so surely we should expect to lose 24-16 if the game was at Twickenham and worse since it's in Ireland.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
According to his stats, he was 83kg. That's probably lighter than Andrew Mehrtens.
That’s not saying much.Have you seen Mehrtens lately?
He was at the cafe when I had breakfast with Joe Moody , Jerome Kaino , Damien McKenzie and Liam Squire . Mehrts defence was always a bit suspect but he can tackle any buffet by the looks of him.@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Joe Stanley was the big hard midfielder of that era and was under 90kg if I recall correctly.
Just makes me realise how much the AB selectors missed a trick by not picking Marty 'Chuck' Berry. He woulda absolutely dominated.
According to his stats, he was 83kg. That's probably lighter than Andrew Mehrtens.
That’s not saying much.Have you seen Mehrtens lately?
He was at the cafe when I had breakfast with Joe Moody , Jerome Kaino , Damien McKenzie and Liam Squire . Mehrts defence was always a bit suspect but he can tackle any buffet by the looks of him.First time you've mentioned that breakfast. How did you keep a lid on that for so long?
Mehrts was slight as for much of his career. He didn't smash the pies until later. Who can forget the tragicomic image of him walking off injured looking 20kg overweight and with those ridiculous lambchop sideburns.
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A couple of days out from the biggest test since the Lions and all we have is a bunch of blokes reminiscing about players from 30 odd years ago.
What is going on?Hopefully the coaches spring some selection surprises like dropping BB and BBBR, recalling Luatua, Piutau and Ngatai, Starting Dmac at 10 and Jordie at 15 and bringing in Akira and Michael Collins in from NZ. That might get the conversation back on track.
Really hard to pick this game with the year we have had. It could be a blow out or could be one of those frustrating, error ridden, tight games.
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Ireland are 6N champions, ranked second in the world, playing at home against a team at the end of a gruelling season.
How are they not favourites?
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TAB has ABs $1.44, Ireland $2.75.
They're only giving Ireland 5.5 points headstart at evens.
TAB is not confident!
@chris-b said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
TAB has ABs $1.44, Ireland $2.75.
They're only giving Ireland 5.5 points headstart at evens.
TAB is not confident!
They are naturally conservative due to the volume of local punters betting on the abs.
Ireland are obviously clear favourites.
