Blues 2019
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What a Traitor!
One of the guys I respected the most. Grizz, Robbie, Don Hayes etc must be hanging their heads in shame.
He couldn't beat razor with Ta$man, good luck with these losers.
@sammyc lol come on mate no need to be like that.
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What a Traitor!
One of the guys I respected the most. Grizz, Robbie, Don Hayes etc must be hanging their heads in shame.
He couldn't beat razor with Ta$man, good luck with these losers.
@sammyc said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):
What a Traitor!
One of the guys I respected the most. Grizz, Robbie, Don Hayes etc must be hanging their heads in shame.
He couldn't beat razor with Ta$man, good luck with these losers.
Salt like this makes me even happier with the decision to promote Leon to head coach. Excellent.
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Wasn't a massive fan of MacDonald taking over from Tana the last time but I'll give this a chance...
But full credit for the Blues making a move. Tana has been an improvement on SJK and Lam but still ultimately was seemed outmatched and outclassed by other NZ franchise coaches. Still ultimately I would like to see a non-ex-AB coach though after now four on the trot.
@rotated said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):
Wasn't a massive fan of MacDonald taking over from Tana the last time but I'll give this a chance...
But full credit for the Blues making a move. Tana has been an improvement on SJK and Lam but still ultimately was seemed outmatched and outclassed by other NZ franchise coaches. Still ultimately I would like to see a non-ex-AB coach though after now four on the trot.
In what way was Tana an improvement? He has a worse record than both those coaches, selected terrible squads and presided over some of the worst results in our history. 60fucking points conceded on Eden Park FFS.
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Farken hell. Only the blues. Have we ever seen this before? I can't think of any time I've seen the head coach demoted to assistant and vice versa.
@bones said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):
Farken hell. Only the blues. Have we ever seen this before? I can't think of any time I've seen the head coach demoted to assistant and vice versa.
And only months after signing an extension. WTF! Good but WTF.
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@bones said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):
Farken hell. Only the blues. Have we ever seen this before? I can't think of any time I've seen the head coach demoted to assistant and vice versa.
And only months after signing an extension. WTF! Good but WTF.
@pukunui said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):
And only months after signing an extension. WTF! Good but WTF.
Yes, it obviously wasn’t his decision despite the spin put on it
The Blues have a review and extend Umaga
Then NZR get directly involved with the Blues
Another review happens and Umaga “decides” to take a lesser jobIt seems clear NZR came to a different conclusion than the Blues
It’s a shame the correct call wasn’t made months ago. Then MacDonald could’ve picked his own squad etc (although he still would’ve been hamstrung by previous poor Umaga/Hanks selections)
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Farken hell. Only the blues. Have we ever seen this before? I can't think of any time I've seen the head coach demoted to assistant and vice versa.
@bones said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):
Farken hell. Only the blues. Have we ever seen this before? I can't think of any time I've seen the head coach demoted to assistant and vice versa.
Warridogs and whathisname they called Cappy. McFadden?
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As long as T is there in a role and there are CM guys in the squad some fans will still have somewhere to direct their blame.
Good luck (and I mean that) to Rangi and I hope he doesn't get destroyed like those before him.
All coaches make mistakes and get bad luck. The structure and circumstances around them dictate how much that effects the team. It's no coincidence the number of coaches that get chewed up at the Blues. Let's hope that the NZRU has managed to fix all the other stuff as well. -
As long as T is there in a role and there are CM guys in the squad some fans will still have somewhere to direct their blame.
Good luck (and I mean that) to Rangi and I hope he doesn't get destroyed like those before him.
All coaches make mistakes and get bad luck. The structure and circumstances around them dictate how much that effects the team. It's no coincidence the number of coaches that get chewed up at the Blues. Let's hope that the NZRU has managed to fix all the other stuff as well. -
@crucial
Are you implying Umaga was not one of the MAIN reasons for the failure of the Blues?@frank said in Blues 2019 - (New Head Coach):
@crucial
Are you implying Umaga was not one of the MAIN reasons for the failure of the Blues?I'd really prefer not go over a discussion that has been had over and over again, but put it this way...
The performance of any coach at the Blues over the past 10 years has been made much more difficult by factors over which they have little control. To point the finger at the coach is simply the easy target to go around the houses again.I have never said that Tana does not have failings, nor that he is free of blame or responsibility. I simply keep pointing out that the structure, depth and systems in NZ rugby at Super level mean that one team is always going to get into a rut and find it bloody hard to get out of it. Just like the on field players, that makes it very difficult to not get sucked into 'chasing a win' and digging the hole deeper.
My take has always been that the 'sack the coach' view is too simplistic until the damage is bad enough that they have no way out. Maybe the balance can swing enough with NZRU interference to get the Blues out of last place, but it will be at the cost of another franchise sliding down and copping all the recruitment issues, fan sniping etc etc that goes with that.
NOTE: I have never hid the fact that I give Tana more leeway than the Blues fans because of what he achieved as a player, captain and coaching my provincial team to a level not seen in over 30 years.
