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jegga

Memo to tv3 , if you want me to watch your late night tv ditch Paul Henry and make it 30 minutes of Janica Terallen .

gollum

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get. fucked.
 
The series was awesome because it had a good story, good writing, and good acting. Fucking Colin Farrell? jesus. 
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Woody was hardly a shining light before that series, I mean come on, the star of Zombieland & Woody on Cheers for 6 years versus Farrel from In Bruges & 7 Pscyhopaths?
 
Part of the enjoyment of TD was that the actors were delivering great performances that felt a bit like a surprise (McConahey was cast in that long before he delivered Dallas Buyers.
 
Its one of those TV shows that lets actors who don't generally rate as outstanding step up & show what they can do. Like House of Cards where people had more or less forgotton what a fricking great actor Spacey is. Or Dexter when Lithgow was in it & you'd got so used to seeing him in 3rd rock you'd forgotten he was excellent.
 
If I were looking for cast for TD2 I'd look who go best supporting actor 15 years ago & then spent a long tiime as the voice of annimated chickens in Pixar films.
 
So Nic Cage & John Cussak then.

Nepia

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Woody was hardly a shining light before that series, I mean come on, the star of Zombieland & Woody on Cheers for 6 years versus Farrel from In Bruges & 7 Pscyhopaths?
 
Part of the enjoyment of TD was that the actors were delivering great performances that felt a bit like a surprise (McConahey was cast in that long before he delivered Dallas Buyers.
 
Its one of those TV shows that lets actors who don't generally rate as outstanding step up & show what they can do. Like House of Cards where people had more or less forgotton what a fricking great actor Spacey is. Or Dexter when Lithgow was in it & you'd got so used to seeing him in 3rd rock you'd forgotten he was excellent.
 
If I were looking for cast for TD2 I'd look who go best supporting actor 15 years ago & then spent a long tiime as the voice of annimated chickens in Pixar films.
 
So Nic Cage & John Cussak then.
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This post is confusing the fuck out of me.
 
Woody was awesome in Zombieland, Lithgow was excellent in 3rd Rock and who forgot Spacey was a good actor anyway? 
 
 
Jegga: I dislike that bird almost as much as I dislike Henry. I would like to bang both their heads together.

jegga

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="441959" data-time="1406289195">This post is confusing the fuck out of me. 
 
Woody was awesome in Zombieland, Lithgow was excellent in 3rd Rock and who forgot Spacey was a good actor anyway? 
 
 
Jegga: I dislike that bird almost as much as I dislike Henry. But I would still bang her seven ways from Sunday .</blockquote>
 
Edited for accuracy . 
Something about Farrell irritates the shit out of me, could be the hordes of hot women he's laid or the huge amounts of money he's earned but it stops me from seeing why people rate him. Total recall sucked despite having two hot female leads fighting and shooting things so I put that 100% down to him. 
Margot robbie and Sophia Vergara should be the leads in the next series.

gollum

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This post is confusing the fuck out of me.
 
Woody was awesome in Zombieland, Lithgow was excellent in 3rd Rock and who forgot Spacey was a good actor anyway? 
 
 
Jegga: I dislike that bird almost as much as I dislike Henry. I would like to bang both their heads together.
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More that both Lithgow & Woody had become comedy actors, if you look at Lithgow a huge chunk of his career is he goofing about getting laughs. Then he gets cast as a full on serial killer. The4re are very few actors who can do successful comedy & switch to doing really hard core drama. Imagine "True Detective 2, Adam Sandler & Ricky Gervais"
 
While Spacey, look at the 90s - LA Confidential, Usual Suspects, American Beauty, Seven.
 
Then he has 13 years doing abysmal stuff that gets zero interest & eventually ends up running the Old Vic in London & doing stage acting. Sreriously, his biggest profile roles in the last 5 years are bit part in Horrible Bosses & the vopice of Lex Luthor in "Superman, the video game". This is a guy who in the 90's was legitimately the best dramatic actor anywhere. Then nothing.
 
Edward Norton would be a good call too. 1990's - Primal Fear, Fight Club, American History X. Then 10 years later he is so bad he destroys Hulk as a franchise for 5 years & he has movies going straight to DVD.

Nepia

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More that both Lithgow & Woody had become comedy actors, if you look at Lithgow a huge chunk of his career is he goofing about getting laughs. Then he gets cast as a full on serial killer. The4re are very few actors who can do successful comedy & switch to doing really hard core drama. Imagine "True Detective 2, Adam Sandler & Ricky Gervais"
 
While Spacey, look at the 90s - LA Confidential, Usual Suspects, American Beauty, Seven.
 
Then he has 13 years doing abysmal stuff that gets zero interest & eventually ends up running the Old Vic in London & doing stage acting. Sreriously, his biggest profile roles in the last 5 years are bit part in Horrible Bosses & the vopice of Lex Luthor in "Superman, the video game". This is a guy who in the 90's was legitimately the best dramatic actor anywhere. Then nothing.
 
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Meh, good comedy acting is good acting and Woody has had lots of dramatic roles in recent years. As for Spacey he choose not have much of a movie profile when he went to the Old Vic.

gollum

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Meh, good comedy acting is good acting and Woody has had lots of dramatic roles in recent years. As for Spacey he choose not have much of a movie profile when he went to the Old Vic.
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If by chose mean he had several movies that cost a lot and fucking bombed, then yes, he chose.
 
Like the way Shane Black chose to have a wee break between Kiss Kiss Bang Bang & Ironman 3

Milk

I'm with Nepia that Spacey took the Queen Vic job, which kept him from Hollywood as opposed to not having options.

Nepia

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If by chose mean he had several movies that cost a lot and fucking bombed, then yes, he chose.
 
Like the way Shane Black chose to have a wee break between Kiss Kiss Bang Bang & Ironman 3
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Spacey noted in a number of interviews that he was going to decrease his movie roles because he didn't want to just be that guy chasing blockbusters ... which was why Spacey took the Old Vic role.
Unlike Black Spacey did actually work during that time, furthermore Black had basically stopped writing for half a decade before Kiss Kiss Bang Bang which was the first movie he directed.

nostrildamus

Woody has played a far greater range than Colin-no comparison.Colin shows his dramatic range best in a phone booth and no way could he play a German queen like Woody.
As for Spacey he is Hollywood gold, Nepia is right he moved to stage *(like Kevin Kline) because he preferred it.

gollum

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Spacey noted in a number of interviews that he was going to decrease his movie roles because he didn't want to just be that guy chasing blockbusters ... which was why Spacey took the Old Vic role.
Unlike Black Spacey did actually work during that time, furthermore Black had basically stopped writing for half a decade before Kiss Kiss Bang Bang which was the first movie he directed.
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Bollocks, Shane Black had 3 disasters in a row then KKBB, then he was dead in Hollywood, he didn't take a break, Hollywood stopped taking his calls - 
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/redemption-of-shane-black'>http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/redemption-of-shane-black</a>
 
"Cue screeching brakes. Blamed for those last two expensive bombs, Black, whose screenplays once triggered frenzied bidding wars, suddenly found his phone calls went unreturned.
As Black's career stalled out, Downey tore through a couple dozen post-Chaplin movies while cultivating a nasty cocaine habit that landed him in prison.
In 2005, Black scraped up backing from his Lethal Weapon consigliore Joel Silver to make a sly noir thriller called Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Downey had served his time and was ready to work, but mainstream filmmakers steered clear. "
 
While Spacey pre Old Vic did 3 trainwreck films, and then had 10 years doing cameos. So yeah... I'm sure the decision to go to the old Vic had nothing to do with him no longer getting the leads he wanted.
 
At least we've moved on from the idea that comedy acting is the same as dramatic acting & I can stop contemplating Paul Rudd & Tracey Morgan in True Detective 3

Crucial

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' data-author="Tim" data-cid="441750" data-time="1406162529">Started watching Utopia. Three episodes into season one and I am hooked.</blockquote>
 
So usually I see a post of Tim's and know if it's music, movies or TV it won't be my cup of tea. My tastes aren't as obtuse as his. However I thought I'd take a look at this and yep, 5 minutes in I'm thinking, " I can see why Tim likes this". 
 
I'll give it the requisite 2 eps to see if it grabs me though.

Nepia

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Bollocks, Shane Black had 3 disasters in a row then KKBB, then he was dead in Hollywood, he didn't take a break, Hollywood stopped taking his calls - 
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/redemption-of-shane-black'>http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/redemption-of-shane-black</a>
 
"Cue screeching brakes. Blamed for those last two expensive bombs, Black, whose screenplays once triggered frenzied bidding wars, suddenly found his phone calls went unreturned.
As Black's career stalled out, Downey tore through a couple dozen post-Chaplin movies while cultivating a nasty cocaine habit that landed him in prison.
In 2005, Black scraped up backing from his Lethal Weapon consigliore Joel Silver to make a sly noir thriller called Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Downey had served his time and was ready to work, but mainstream filmmakers steered clear. "
 
While Spacey pre Old Vic did 3 trainwreck films, and then had 10 years doing cameos. So yeah... I'm sure the decision to go to the old Vic had nothing to do with him no longer getting the leads he wanted.
 
At least we've moved on from the idea that comedy acting is the same as dramatic acting & I can stop contemplating Paul Rudd & Tracey Morgan in True Detective 3
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'We' haven't moved on from anything, I didn't say that comedy acting is the same as dramatic acting, however, I can appreciate good acting whether it's in a comedy or a drama. 
 
As for Black, his last script before Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was in 1998, so I'm unsure why you consider what I wrote to be bollocks.

mariner4life

Not sure if you guys have heard of it, but the missus and i have started watching this small, relatively obscure show called Game of Thrones. I really like the main character Ned Stark, and i look forward to sharing his journey over the next 4 seasons.

mariner4life

wait, are we seriously discussing the acting chops of twice oscar nominated Woody Harrelson?

Crucial

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Not sure if you guys have heard of it, but the missus and i have started watching this small, relatively obscure show called Game of Thrones. I really like the main character Ned Stark, and i look forward to sharing his journey over the next 4 seasons.
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Mods, please check this. It seems like old posts are reposting themselves after a few years.

mariner4life

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Mods, please check this. It seems like old posts are reposting themselves after a few years.
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haha yea, i am nothing if not up with the times...
 
I watched the first 3 episodes of season 1 for the 3rd time over the weekend. it's nice to progess the story finally. The problem with watching it so soon after finishing the books is i find myself less paying attention to the show, and more looking forward to the cool stuff coming up. 
 
The missus knows nothing about it though, and she thinks it's excellent. All she knows is lots of people die, so she's placing bets on who makes it.

Milk

My wife and I recently started GoT too. I'm enjoying it, but she mainly watches through her hands, asking when she can look again. Same way we watch Walking Dead.

gollum

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wait, are we seriously discussing the acting chops of twice oscar nominated Woody Harrelson?
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Not really, we're discussing the way that TD took actors who are great actors, but who haven't done much of note lately & cast them & people had largely forgotton how fucking grreat they were. So it becomes one of those "wow that was a great call!" casting things, when in hindsight you could think "well d'uh!". Recent TV has done that a lot.
 
Bear in mind Woody & McC have been on screen twice together - in <strike>awards nominated</strike> Ed TV & Surfer Dude....
 
Hence me saying a guy like Ed Norton would be an obvious one for TD2. Or Nic Cage. He's done so many terrible roles in the last 10 years, its easy to forget he was an astoundingly good actor.
 
Contrast that with someone like Daniel Day Lewis who just does an oscar winnng turn every 5 years without doing the stupid rom com, the slasher & voice of the annimated squirrel movie in between.
 
To be honest I really didn't think it was that controversial....

taniwharugby

Finished S2 of Longmire - quite enjoyed it, think it took a step up from S1, and finished pretty well!! Also enjoying the fact they you are learning slowly more about the characters too.

The Silver Fern

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