Has Hansen gone stale?
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Ahhh fuck it, I'm old and most of my AB supporting life we've not been world cup holders. Come that day again, it'll be like putting on some old comfy slippers
I'm in the please let this be a powder dry season camp, just because I can't stomach that the empire has slid so far in a year. Hardly an imperious year on the battlefield though was it?
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Ahhh fuck it, I'm old and most of my AB supporting life we've not been world cup holders. Come that day again, it'll be like putting on some old comfy slippers
I'm in the please let this be a powder dry season camp, just because I can't stomach that the empire has slid so far in a year. Hardly an imperious year on the battlefield though was it?
@siam said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Come that day again, it'll be like putting on some old comfy slippers
Fuck that. Get angry and win. Terrible year, probably lose to Italy next. I am not happy about the way this is going.
A bit melodramatic, but we are losing the edge.
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Absolutely he’s gone stale. His assistants are a big part of it, but some of his public comments during/since the Lions tour suggest the edge is well gone.
He originally planned to step down mid-RWC cycle to avoid this, he might have been right to do so, but then we’d have had Foster - so we need an onto it Hansen back.
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Absolutely he’s gone stale. His assistants are a big part of it, but some of his public comments during/since the Lions tour suggest the edge is well gone.
He originally planned to step down mid-RWC cycle to avoid this, he might have been right to do so, but then we’d have had Foster - so we need an onto it Hansen back.
@donsteppa We could try and get that prick Schmidt but Rennie is the man I reckon.
One fucking loss and I want to sack the lot of them!
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@mofitzy_ my 2 posts above were separate and I dont necessarily agree with myself if you talk to both of them together.
First post, I'd take not winning next years RWC to regain our unbeaten record with Ireland, but thats not to say they didnt deserve the win today and I think I am more ok with losing to them than I woulda been last week...
What I dont like is where a win might be sacrificed solely with an eye on a RWC, if this ends up being the case then we will end up with friendlies and less interest in between RWCs.
We hear comments about changing of game plans, trying different things, keeping powder dry and all that, which I believe is a small part of our form this last few months, but on the flipside, I'd prefer we went out there with our 'a game' week in week out, have your back ups when it doesnt work - but ultimately, do what works.
@taniwharugby said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
What I dont like is where a win might be sacrificed solely with an eye on a RWC, if this ends up being the case then we will end up with friendlies and less interest in between RWCs.
Poor old Bonesetta trying to comfort me near the end of the match. "Oh well at least these games don't matter". The confusion and regret on her face from the glare she got back was priceless. Bless her, she's into rugby in a big way but only been that way since she met me...actually really picked up on the nuances really well.
May she rest in peace. Anyone want to buy a shovel? Only used once.
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@donsteppa We could try and get that prick Schmidt but Rennie is the man I reckon.
One fucking loss and I want to sack the lot of them!
@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa We could try and get that prick Schmidt but Rennie is the man I reckon.
One fucking loss and I want to sack the lot of them!
I reckon it’s more that this loss is the culmination of the last 15 months of an All Blacks team running very hot and very cold - with some curiously predictable weak points and patterns.
But for the TMO last week, TSF might be very sour indeed, and calling up the C team that played Japan.
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@taniwharugby said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
What I dont like is where a win might be sacrificed solely with an eye on a RWC, if this ends up being the case then we will end up with friendlies and less interest in between RWCs.
Poor old Bonesetta trying to comfort me near the end of the match. "Oh well at least these games don't matter". The confusion and regret on her face from the glare she got back was priceless. Bless her, she's into rugby in a big way but only been that way since she met me...actually really picked up on the nuances really well.
May she rest in peace. Anyone want to buy a shovel? Only used once.
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@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa We could try and get that prick Schmidt but Rennie is the man I reckon.
One fucking loss and I want to sack the lot of them!
I reckon it’s more that this loss is the culmination of the last 15 months of an All Blacks team running very hot and very cold - with some curiously predictable weak points and patterns.
But for the TMO last week, TSF might be very sour indeed, and calling up the C team that played Japan.
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
I reckon it’s more that this loss is the culmination of the last 15 months of an All Blacks team running very hot and very cold - with some curiously predictable weak points and patterns.
But for the TMO last week, TSF might be very sour indeed, and calling up the C team that played Japan.All of that. If we can see the cracks why can't a professional coaching team?
I don't know the answers but I can see some of the problems.
Competition for positions might engage some older heads a bit instead of guaranteed starts.
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We missed an opportunity with Schmidt, we should have brought him back to coach the Blues and said to him succeed here and the ABs are yours. After all he's familiar with the Blues and some of his backline decisions heralded in the era of mediocrity.
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We missed an opportunity with Schmidt, we should have brought him back to coach the Blues and said to him succeed here and the ABs are yours. After all he's familiar with the Blues and some of his backline decisions heralded in the era of mediocrity.
Forget the Blues. Vern Cotter and Joe Schmidt will forever be the coaches named to take charge of an All Time Bay of Plenty Steamers squad. Schmidt is an absolute legend.
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@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We missed an opportunity with Schmidt, we should have brought him back to coach the Blues and said to him succeed here and the ABs are yours. After all he's familiar with the Blues and some of his backline decisions heralded in the era of mediocrity.
Forget the Blues. Vern Cotter and Joe Schmidt will forever be the coaches named to take charge of an All Time Bay of Plenty Steamers squad. Schmidt is an absolute legend.
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@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Schmidt is an absolute legend.
And a traitorous prick.
Get rid of Hansen and get him on the right side then
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He is missing Richie McCaw and his famous high standards from his chief lieutenant. The side seemed to lack power to make yards in the first half, but also lacked fitness and cool-heads to take the game by the scruff of the neck in the last ten minutes. The ABs no longer have the advantage in conditioning over the NH sides that they enjoyed 2004-2016.
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@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Schmidt is an absolute legend.
And a traitorous prick.
Get rid of Hansen and get him on the right side then
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@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We missed an opportunity with Schmidt, we should have brought him back to coach the Blues and said to him succeed here and the ABs are yours. After all he's familiar with the Blues and some of his backline decisions heralded in the era of mediocrity.
Forget the Blues. Vern Cotter and Joe Schmidt will forever be the coaches named to take charge of an All Time Bay of Plenty Steamers squad. Schmidt is an absolute legend.
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We missed an opportunity with Schmidt, we should have brought him back to coach the Blues and said to him succeed here and the ABs are yours. After all he's familiar with the Blues and some of his backline decisions heralded in the era of mediocrity.
Forget the Blues. Vern Cotter and Joe Schmidt will forever be the coaches named to take charge of an All Time Bay of Plenty Steamers squad. Schmidt is an absolute legend.
I don't think you quite got the tone of my post.
Cotter was the man in charge at BoP right?
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@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We missed an opportunity with Schmidt, we should have brought him back to coach the Blues and said to him succeed here and the ABs are yours. After all he's familiar with the Blues and some of his backline decisions heralded in the era of mediocrity.
Forget the Blues. Vern Cotter and Joe Schmidt will forever be the coaches named to take charge of an All Time Bay of Plenty Steamers squad. Schmidt is an absolute legend.
I don't think you quite got the tone of my post.
Cotter was the man in charge at BoP right?
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We missed an opportunity with Schmidt, we should have brought him back to coach the Blues and said to him succeed here and the ABs are yours. After all he's familiar with the Blues and some of his backline decisions heralded in the era of mediocrity.
Forget the Blues. Vern Cotter and Joe Schmidt will forever be the coaches named to take charge of an All Time Bay of Plenty Steamers squad. Schmidt is an absolute legend.
I don't think you quite got the tone of my post.
Cotter was the man in charge at BoP right?
I got the tone, but on a day of rugby bitterness it was too good a chance to remember 2004 and to angle for a return to Tauranga
Yep, Cotter was in charge and Schmidt the assistant.
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@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We missed an opportunity with Schmidt, we should have brought him back to coach the Blues and said to him succeed here and the ABs are yours. After all he's familiar with the Blues and some of his backline decisions heralded in the era of mediocrity.
Forget the Blues. Vern Cotter and Joe Schmidt will forever be the coaches named to take charge of an All Time Bay of Plenty Steamers squad. Schmidt is an absolute legend.
I don't think you quite got the tone of my post.
Cotter was the man in charge at BoP right?
I got the tone, but on a day of rugby bitterness it was too good a chance to remember 2004 and to angle for a return to Tauranga
Yep, Cotter was in charge and Schmidt the assistant.
@donsteppa Both turncoats.
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@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We missed an opportunity with Schmidt, we should have brought him back to coach the Blues and said to him succeed here and the ABs are yours. After all he's familiar with the Blues and some of his backline decisions heralded in the era of mediocrity.
Forget the Blues. Vern Cotter and Joe Schmidt will forever be the coaches named to take charge of an All Time Bay of Plenty Steamers squad. Schmidt is an absolute legend.
I don't think you quite got the tone of my post.
Cotter was the man in charge at BoP right?
I got the tone, but on a day of rugby bitterness it was too good a chance to remember 2004 and to angle for a return to Tauranga
Yep, Cotter was in charge and Schmidt the assistant.
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We missed an opportunity with Schmidt, we should have brought him back to coach the Blues and said to him succeed here and the ABs are yours. After all he's familiar with the Blues and some of his backline decisions heralded in the era of mediocrity.
Forget the Blues. Vern Cotter and Joe Schmidt will forever be the coaches named to take charge of an All Time Bay of Plenty Steamers squad. Schmidt is an absolute legend.
I don't think you quite got the tone of my post.
Cotter was the man in charge at BoP right?
I got the tone, but on a day of rugby bitterness it was too good a chance to remember 2004 and to angle for a return to Tauranga
Yep, Cotter was in charge and Schmidt the assistant.
Yes, I too was remembering 2004 ... hmm, so who would be the Tasesa Lavea option at 10 for the ABs when Schmidt took over?
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Not picking Akira Ioane at all or Ngani Laumape nearly enough this year were major errors. It smacked of favouritism too leaving them out when other players were also out of the beers in big way after the Dunedin test
