Has Hansen gone stale?
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Ian Foster, All Black head coach
@mariner4life I reckon he and McLEod are the biggest losers over the weekend in terms of value.
Sure Crons scrum took a few hits, but it did get back up and put up a fight.
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@mariner4life I reckon he and McLEod are the biggest losers over the weekend in terms of value.
Sure Crons scrum took a few hits, but it did get back up and put up a fight.
@taniwharugby said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life I reckon he and McLEod are the biggest losers over the weekend in terms of value.
Sure Crons scrum took a few hits, but it did get back up and put up a fight.
Cron has a lot of credit in the bank. We've got like 6 test quality props now, with huge development in all of them. Jesus look at Ofa! All anyone used to remember of him were those scrums against the Waratahs. Then he became a very good tight head prop, but no one wanted a bar of him at loosehead. Last two weeks he's been a fucking good loosehead as well. That's coaching right there.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
look at those fucking idiot Crusader captains giving away repeated dumb penalties. retards...
Too many pussy South Islanders...I thought we had a moratorium on blaming provinces that ran until late Tuesday afternoon? Oh well, maybe's it's Tuesday already on the fucken moon FUCK THE CANTAB FORWARDS, rudderless tenured knackered old dogs #2019_Akira6_Toeava8_Papali'i7
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@chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
Why wait!
Look at who the players were who did 90% of the stupid little chip kicks. Look at which franchise they play for. Is it synonymous with rugby intelligence?
Maybe we've seen the failure of Hansen's Plan A - and now it's time to move to Plan A...CT - i.e. just roll out the Crusaders and a Token Brodie (he shoulda been one of us anyway) and a Token Ioane.
:fishing_pole:
I think most observers have highlighted our lack of a decent punishing 6 this year and lets look at where we get all our 6s from.
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@nepia Yes - we clearly need an improvement in the coaching of our forwards.
Hmmmm...who could we get......
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@snowy when is Toeava due back from his sabbatical? Would slot nicely into the vacant no. 8 position.
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@chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@tim To coach a Crusaders pack? My compass is pointing to the South!
you can get pills for that mate
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@kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We need a scapegoat ,
I nominate Fozzie ,
I blame Fozzie .
Ireland have two world class coaches in Schmidt and Farrell. We have a world class coach in Shag who might be a bit stale atm, and two clowns as assistants. That's where the game was lost, we were out coached.
@akan004 said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We need a scapegoat ,
I nominate Fozzie ,
I blame Fozzie .
Ireland have two world class coaches in Schmidt and Farrell. We have a world class coach in Shag who might be a bit stale atm, and two clowns as assistants. That's where the game was lost, we were out coached.
Yes - and where do those coaches come from?
We shoulda re-signed Mitch and gone for a trifecta.
Instead of singing the national anthem, we could just get Judy Collins to sing her standard.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
If we were holding any cards close to our chest this weekend then we’ve been doing so for about 15 months. Perhaps we’ve been holding back having a kicking game that isn’t pedestrian/custard footed. Maybe some of our forwards won’t play in leaden shoes or without buttering their fingers next year...
The hopeful comparisons with the 2015 pool games are all well and good, except this time they all had the Japan game off.
Ultimately it's not smart to have untested hidden genius tactics if they prove to be utterly shit.
But worth it for the gems that Tony Woodcock and the 2011 final provided
@hooroo said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
If we were holding any cards close to our chest this weekend then we’ve been doing so for about 15 months. Perhaps we’ve been holding back having a kicking game that isn’t pedestrian/custard footed. Maybe some of our forwards won’t play in leaden shoes or without buttering their fingers next year...
The hopeful comparisons with the 2015 pool games are all well and good, except this time they all had the Japan game off.
Ultimately it's not smart to have untested hidden genius tactics if they prove to be utterly shit.
But worth it for the gems that Tony Woodcock and the 2011 final provided
Somebody likes teabagging
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The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
If we were holding any cards close to our chest this weekend then we’ve been doing so for about 15 months. Perhaps we’ve been holding back having a kicking game that isn’t pedestrian/custard footed. Maybe some of our forwards won’t play in leaden shoes or won’t butter their fingers next year.
The hopeful comparisons with the 2015 pool games are all well and good, except this time they all had the Japan game off.
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
Tea Bag
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My English mate reckons Ireland have 1 big game in them every so often. Lets hope that was the game. By christ come RWC time I want us to be so dominant we will have all the other teams sat on their arses and crying for their mummies....
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@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
Tea Bag
@booboo said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
Tea Bag
One move in approx 56 RWC knockout games came to mind (excluding 3rd vs 4th playoffs. Accurate goal kicking wins it more often.
And first we’d have to kick accurately to the corner and not have our third choice hooker throwing
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@booboo said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
Tea Bag
One move in approx 56 RWC knockout games came to mind (excluding 3rd vs 4th playoffs. Accurate goal kicking wins it more often.
And first we’d have to kick accurately to the corner and not have our third choice hooker throwing
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@booboo said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
Tea Bag
One move in approx 56 RWC knockout games came to mind (excluding 3rd vs 4th playoffs. Accurate goal kicking wins it more often.
And first we’d have to kick accurately to the corner and not have our third choice hooker throwing
The real answer to all of this is to bring back Beaver.
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The ABs seem to have lost ability to smash through tackles and leave opponents on their arses.
Akira Ioane and Ngani Laumape are the two guys who at Super Level regularly smash away defenders. But neither are Hansen's favourites.
Developing a pick and go game again would help against Ireland.
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The ABs seem to have lost ability to smash through tackles and leave opponents on their arses.
Akira Ioane and Ngani Laumape are the two guys who at Super Level regularly smash away defenders. But neither are Hansen's favourites.
Developing a pick and go game again would help against Ireland.
@sparky nah, thats what is meant by keeping thier powder dry...both to be let off thier leash for the RWC and destroy the opposition and win us the RWC almost doublehandedly!
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My English mate reckons Ireland have 1 big game in them every so often. Lets hope that was the game. By christ come RWC time I want us to be so dominant we will have all the other teams sat on their arses and crying for their mummies....
@shadowtrooper said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
My English mate reckons Ireland have 1 big game in them every so often. Lets hope that was the game. By christ come RWC time I want us to be so dominant we will have all the other teams sat on their arses and crying for their mummies....
We definitely want to avoid them in the quarters. I am confident that we will beat them but the game will be so physically draining with the style they play that we will be shattered come the semis and final.
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@shadowtrooper said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
My English mate reckons Ireland have 1 big game in them every so often. Lets hope that was the game. By christ come RWC time I want us to be so dominant we will have all the other teams sat on their arses and crying for their mummies....
We definitely want to avoid them in the quarters. I am confident that we will beat them but the game will be so physically draining with the style they play that we will be shattered come the semis and final.
@akan004 said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We definitely want to avoid them in the quarters.
@Donsteppa 's "couches to hide behind" business would be fucking booming.
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@akan004 said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We definitely want to avoid them in the quarters.
@Donsteppa 's "couches to hide behind" business would be fucking booming.
@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@akan004 said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
We definitely want to avoid them in the quarters.
@Donsteppa 's "couches to hide behind" business would be fucking booming.
Investing in Harvey Norman shares as we speak.
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The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
If we were holding any cards close to our chest this weekend then we’ve been doing so for about 15 months. Perhaps we’ve been holding back having a kicking game that isn’t pedestrian/custard footed. Maybe some of our forwards won’t play in leaden shoes or won’t butter their fingers next year.
The hopeful comparisons with the 2015 pool games are all well and good, except this time they all had the Japan game off.
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
That's simplifying things rather drastically isn't it? I don't think anyone talking about us holding something back is talking about dinky little scrum moves, being disingenuous there.
Patterns, styles, players, combinations, etc. The confusing thing about the ABs over the past 2 years has been watching them cycle through several different periods within a game where they will completely dominate and then shift to doing something slightly different and look average. I think they're more likely to pull out bit parts to see how they can do them and their effect, knowing they can piece them together when required. I think that's where the ABs are lucky in that they've been that far ahead they have the ability to do this, whereas even if other teams are keeping their powder dry, they don't have as comfortable a leeway there.
Players that have looked the goods have been used very little or not at all, yet have been kept close to camp.
Even Coles has decided to not throw into a lineout properly, so that's obviously a tactic. Which takes the heat off Harris.
