Has Hansen gone stale?
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This seems like a good thread to post this:
https://twitter.com/SDM_Robertson/status/1065727403044016131
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So Hansen is making a decision on his future and Schmidt makes his next week. Anyone care to offer odds he stay in Ireland?
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So Hansen is making a decision on his future and Schmidt makes his next week. Anyone care to offer odds he stay in Ireland?
@antipodean said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
So Hansen is making a decision on his future and Schmidt makes his next week. Anyone care to offer odds he stay in Ireland?
He's in a pretty sweet spot right now, so it wouldn't surprise me if he stayed
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So Hansen is making a decision on his future and Schmidt makes his next week. Anyone care to offer odds he stay in Ireland?
@antipodean said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
So Hansen is making a decision on his future and Schmidt makes his next week. Anyone care to offer odds he stay in Ireland?
I thought he has already decided to finish after the RWC?
Clearly Rennie isn't coming back for a shot at an AB job.
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@machpants said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
No he's not declared his decision yet
The guys on PR saying he's finishing at the end of the RWC must have jumped the gun then.
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Does it show the demographic of the Fern that there is an awful of angst towards 99/03/07, with the dominant Cantabs the easy scapegoats, and yet the 90-94 period, and the Auckland guys get away scot free these days? I feel like if this forum was around in 96 there would be a few other names getting cursed.
Too long ago? Too faded from memory?
Not all of us. I'm still blaming Vodanovich for 1970-71
@dogmeat said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Does it show the demographic of the Fern that there is an awful of angst towards 99/03/07, with the dominant Cantabs the easy scapegoats, and yet the 90-94 period, and the Auckland guys get away scot free these days? I feel like if this forum was around in 96 there would be a few other names getting cursed.
Too long ago? Too faded from memory?
Not all of us. I'm still blaming Vodanovich for 1970-71
Pick someone who can kick fucking goals, JJ - even if it's Laurie!
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God 2002 was shit year.
Highlights the games v South Africa, a good win at home, and a win in Durban. But the world's most boring game v the Wallabies, then a loss. Took the Taine/Jonah/Cully farewell tour away with a squad guaranteeing they would lose, and they did.
Our team was so underwhelming, the results were a bit shit, just a forgettable year.
Funnily enough, until the World Cup in 2011, the only year i had been to more than one AB test (Fiji and Saffers in Wellington)
Mark fucking Robinson at centre over Tana!!!
@mariner4life I was at the 2nd game at Stadium Australia where Richie pounced on an untidy lineout to score and Matt Burke broke our hearts with a penalty in the last minute to retain the Bled. Green and gold confetti fell from the sky. Bled tickets in Sydney were rarer than hens teeth back then.
Weirdly for such an epic last minute Ozwin in the mould of Kefu and Eales there is no footage on the internet (that I can find).
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@mariner4life I was at the 2nd game at Stadium Australia where Richie pounced on an untidy lineout to score and Matt Burke broke our hearts with a penalty in the last minute to retain the Bled. Green and gold confetti fell from the sky. Bled tickets in Sydney were rarer than hens teeth back then.
Weirdly for such an epic last minute Ozwin in the mould of Kefu and Eales there is no footage on the internet (that I can find).
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Look, no one looks back on the Mitch era fondly, but, he did get the Bledisloe back. Higher credentialed coaches didn't do that.
And posting 50 points away back to back in the Tri-Nations when it was actually good? The mid-part of 2003 was pretty sweet.
He also brought in a few guys who went on to be pretty decent All Blacks.
@mariner4life We certainly didn't have to worry about any dry powder in 2003.
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@dejo said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Weirdly for such an epic last minute Ozwin in the mould of Kefu and Eales there is no footage on the internet (that I can find).
was it 02 or 01? Possibly 01; both scores super tight
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@nzzp It was 2002; the first link you posted is the epic 2000 game.
Here is a match report - good luck finding footage: http://www.espn.com.au/rugby/report?gameId=24259&league=244293
Australia have retained the Bledisloe Cup and kept their Tri Nations chances alive with a 16-14 victory over New Zealand in Sydney.
Wallaby outside-centre Matt Burke slotted a penalty after the siren had sounded to inflict Bledisloe devastation on the All Blacks yet again. It follows John Eales' penalty at Wellington in 2000 and Toutai Kefu's match-winning try in Sydney last year.
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It was the Wallabies' eighth win against the All Blacks in 11 games, while it was John Mitchell's first loss in 10 games as All Blacks coach. The Wallaby victory also means the Tri Nations is still up for grabs with even the Springboks having an outside chance of taking the title providing they win the final two games in South Africa.
The All Blacks looked to have the game won with a 14-8 lead on 71 minutes after trailing 8-3 at half-time. The Wallabies fell asleep in the second half, but a jinking try to league convert Mat Rogers in the 71st minute ensured a tense finish.
And certainly so when Burke's simple conversion hit the upright to leave the All Blacks in front 14-13.
The Wallabies scored two tries to one, but the boot of Andrew Mehrtens almost proved the difference with three penalties. Burke managed just one from two, but none are likely to be as memorable as his final kick.
The Wallabies should have had a greater lead at half-time if not for a series of turnovers and a poor decision by South African referee Andre Watson to deny Wallaby hooker Jeremy Paul a try in the 31st minute.
Watson judged that Wallaby prop Patricio Noriega obstructed the defence getting across to Paul from a ruck just short of the line, but replays suggested otherwise. As it was the decision did not matter.
What mattered was how the Wallabies collapsed after half-time following a dominant first half. Lock Nathan Sharpe put the Wallabies ahead 5-0 in the 16th minute with Burke adding his first penalty in the 35th minute for an 8-3 lead.
Mehrtens then put the All Blacks on the board with a penalty just before the break. And it was enough to spark his side into action as they totally controlled the game for the 30 minutes after half-time.
Mehrtens reduced the lead to 8-6 with a penalty in the 46th minute, then a mistake by the Wallabies on their own lineout close to the tryline allowed All Blacks flanker Richard McCaw to score the easiest of tries and hand his side an 11-8 lead.
The All Blacks had all the momentum from that point with the entire game played in opposition territory as the Wallabies blundered from one turnover and penalty to another.
The All Blacks were quite happy to kick possession back to the Wallabies who struggled under the pressure and with only some scrambling defence saving the day.
But for all their dominance during this period, the All Blacks could manage just three points through a Mehrtens penalty in the 51st minute.
"There's something about this place, it always seems to go down to the final minute," said Australian skipper George Gregan.
"It was a real heartbreaker," said All Blacks skipper Reuben Thorne. "We always knew it was going to be a close one. It's a tough loss."
Scoreboard
AUSTRALIA 16 Tries: Nathan Sharpe, Mat Rogers Goals: Matthew Burke 2 pen
NEW ZEALAND 14 Try: Richard McCall try Goals: Andrew Mehrtens 3 pen
Crowd: 79,543 At Telstra Stadium Referee: Andre Watson
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Does it show the demographic of the Fern that there is an awful of angst towards 99/03/07, with the dominant Cantabs the easy scapegoats, and yet the 90-94 period, and the Auckland guys get away scot free these days? I feel like if this forum was around in 96 there would be a few other names getting cursed.
Too long ago? Too faded from memory?
@mariner4life It's because the choking curse was so utterly at odds with our self image as a rugby nation - it was utterly emasculating (for men) and bewildering. The world made no sense and was overun with gleeful 'neutrals' cheering on our misfortune.
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@rancid-schnitzel I think it was all just part of NZ rugby badly losing its way around the turn of the century.
We were about to lose the World Cup hosting rights and the whole tenor of NZ Rugby had changed towards corporatization.
In the spirit of @booboo - here's just about the only post I've ever saved from a messageboard...from 1999!
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I find Wales easier to support, so that's why I married my one.
This thread has gone a bit awry...
again.
@snowy my wider point was that there is really only one thread with one topic. And I love it. A loss against Ireland has me reading (and posting on) the fern again. You little beauty. This is what it is to feel alive! I think we should merge them all into one big wankfest of glorious self abuse and loathing.
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@bovidae you don't know Richard McCall? He was pretty handy (for a Cantab). Gave Marty Holah a bit of competition for openside in the early 00's. Not sure what became of him. Went overseas (possibly to Tokoroa) I think.
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Rennie is one of the most overrrated coaches. Initial success with the Chiefs then very average.
@billy-tell said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Rennie is one of the most overrrated coaches. Initial success with the Chiefs then very average.
Overrated mostly by Nepia. Not sure who else is stroking his schlong.
