Let's talk about six, baby
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I've just had a quick look at the ESPN stats these last two weeks.
Liam Squire
v England - 3 x runs for 0 metres gained. 5 tackles made. 0 turnovers generated.
v Ireland - 5 x runs for 2 metres gained. 3 tackles made. 1 x penalty conceded for a high tackle. 0 turnovers generated.
@kiwimurph shit, so he made 2m more than I did, and same amount of turnovers!

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https://www.rugbypass.com/news/blindsided-is-no-6-the-all-blacks-biggest-world-cup-question-mark
I agree, it's not in a great place.
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Read started his AB career at 6 but hasn't played there for a long time.
No reason they couldn't move him there in the 2nd half and bring on a bruising no.8 instead of using Barrett to replace the starting blindside. Very unlikely to happen though as they favour having a second no.7 on the bench, while the locks usually go 80 mins.
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Can anyone technical knowledge of backrow play see a problem with 6 Read 7 Cane or Savea 8 A. Ioane?
@sparky said in Let's talk about six, baby:
Can anyone technical knowledge of backrow play see a problem with 6 Read 7 Cane or Savea 8 A. Ioane?
technical? no. Time? yes. Read moving to a position he hasn't played in years, and a new guy being brought in to the team. And on top of that, all 4 of those guys play for different Super Rugby sides.
That's a nicely balanced trio, but it has zero chance of starting a meaningful test together.
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I think moving Cane to 6 would make more sense, he plays more as a 6 anyway.
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I think moving Cane to 6 would make more sense, he plays more as a 6 anyway.
@taniwharugby said in Let's talk about six, baby:
I think moving Cane to 6 would make more sense, he plays more as a 6 anyway.
I'm not sure that's actually true, except for the fact that he is the guy in our pack who hits people really really hard.
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I think moving Cane to 6 would make more sense, he plays more as a 6 anyway.
@taniwharugby Interestingly Cane has sometimes moved to no.8 for the Chiefs but not to 6.
It would be a brave move of Hansen and co to move players to different positions now.
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@taniwharugby said in Let's talk about six, baby:
I think moving Cane to 6 would make more sense, he plays more as a 6 anyway.
I'm not sure that's actually true, except for the fact that he is the guy in our pack who hits people really really hard.
@mariner4life not that we have had a traditional fetcher for some time, but I think he just plays more like Kaino did than any of those we have tried so far and is a bit tighter than a normal 7.
Isnt as loose as Ardie, Todd sits someone in between the 2.
@Bovidae yeah cant see them tinkering that much, assuming all are fit, if we were naming the starting trio for the RWC final tomorrow, I think we would see Squire, Cane, Read.
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@sparky said in Let's talk about six, baby:
Can anyone technical knowledge of backrow play see a problem with 6 Read 7 Cane or Savea 8 A. Ioane?
technical? no. Time? yes. Read moving to a position he hasn't played in years, and a new guy being brought in to the team. And on top of that, all 4 of those guys play for different Super Rugby sides.
That's a nicely balanced trio, but it has zero chance of starting a meaningful test together.
@mariner4life said in Let's talk about six, baby:
That's a nicely balanced trio, but it has zero chance of starting a meaningful test together.
Scott Barrett is logging minutes at (or in lieu of a) 6 in meaningful tests. It’s not out of the box.
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@mariner4life said in Let's talk about six, baby:
That's a nicely balanced trio, but it has zero chance of starting a meaningful test together.
Scott Barrett is logging minutes at (or in lieu of a) 6 in meaningful tests. It’s not out of the box.
@rotated said in Let's talk about six, baby:
@mariner4life said in Let's talk about six, baby:
That's a nicely balanced trio, but it has zero chance of starting a meaningful test together.
Scott Barrett is logging minutes at (or in lieu of a) 6 in meaningful tests. It’s not out of the box.
That might just be because of the stupid RWC restrictions on squad size. A few extra players won't hurt the budgets that much.
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@rotated said in Let's talk about six, baby:
@mariner4life said in Let's talk about six, baby:
That's a nicely balanced trio, but it has zero chance of starting a meaningful test together.
Scott Barrett is logging minutes at (or in lieu of a) 6 in meaningful tests. It’s not out of the box.
That might just be because of the stupid RWC restrictions on squad size. A few extra players won't hurt the budgets that much.
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@snowy I was not impressed when they mad eit mandatory for everyone to have a full replacement front row on the bench a few years back, 23 players, but RWC squad sizes stayed the same WTF?
@machpants Yep, tough on the coaches / selectors. It just means that you can't pick your best team, and that sucks.
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@snowy I was not impressed when they mad eit mandatory for everyone to have a full replacement front row on the bench a few years back, 23 players, but RWC squad sizes stayed the same WTF?
@machpants said in Let's talk about six, baby:
@snowy I was not impressed when they mad eit mandatory for everyone to have a full replacement front row on the bench a few years back, 23 players, but RWC squad sizes stayed the same WTF?
They didn’t stay the same. They were increased from 30 to 31.
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@billy-tell said in Let's talk about six, baby:
Could Read move back to 6?? IIRC that’s where he started his AB career.
Great idea. Not sure if it's been mentioned on here before but maybe that could mean Akira Ioane could play No 8.
@mn5 said in Let's talk about six, baby:
@billy-tell said in Let's talk about six, baby:
Could Read move back to 6?? IIRC that’s where he started his AB career.
Great idea. Not sure if it's been mentioned on here before but maybe that could mean Akira Ioane could play No 8.
Who? Is he new or something?
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@mn5 said in Let's talk about six, baby:
@billy-tell said in Let's talk about six, baby:
Could Read move back to 6?? IIRC that’s where he started his AB career.
Great idea. Not sure if it's been mentioned on here before but maybe that could mean Akira Ioane could play No 8.
Who? Is he new or something?
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@taniwharugby said in Let's talk about six, baby:
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his name is powder.
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@taniwharugby said in Let's talk about six, baby:
I think moving Cane to 6 would make more sense, he plays more as a 6 anyway.
I think they want a good ball carrier at 6 and Cane doesn't quite offer that. With Read's running ability not the same as previous seasons, it's probably more important that the 6 can carry well.