Grace Millane
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@no-quarter said in Grace Millane:
@donsteppa said in Grace Millane:
@jegga said in Grace Millane:
@no-quarter said in Grace Millane:
Cynical question: do these vigils happen if we remove social media? Would so many be attending if they couldn't narcissistically post about it online?
Any of you old buggers remember anything like this happening before? The reaction seems way OTT given we never get vigils for, say, the innocent children that are regularly killed in domestic violence incidents.
(Edited but probably too late for anyone to take this post seriously now)
Nope . I don’t remember there being grief olympics held before social media .
Some parts of the outpouring around Princess Diana's death are the closest I can think of pre-social media.
Yeah I have fairly vague memories of that but can remember it seeming to be a massive deal at the time. Difference there is people actually knew who she was and many were fans already.
A shift that took place was an increasing expectation that people were supposed to overtly grieve and very publicly.
While there was a lot that went on in the background dynamic between the Royals and Diana, the big change seemed to be in the demand for the Queen and Philip to “come out and join us and prove to us that you care”.
I can remember that part annoying my parents. Mum’s view was roughly ‘the Queen and Philip have lived through the war - they’ll grieve in their own way and in private - and they don’t need public histrionics to show that they care’
It was certainly a sad occasion, but a few people seemed to forget that there’s more than one way to care or to grieve.
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@donsteppa I recall I was on my way home from golf, just turning into Kensington Ave in Whangarei when I heard it on the radio.
I was not a particularly big fan (probably more neutral) of Diana, but I guess I realised the significance of her death for that moment to still be so clear.
Similarly I can recall the moment I found out when Freddie Mercury had died (although that was probably tempered by the fact me and 2 mates had been in a low speed head on collision that day, so I more remember hearing about Freddie being tied to that)
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You guys miss the point. the Sainted Lady Di's demise was undoubtedly the most catastrophic event of the last two millennia.
A beautiful soul cut down in the prime of life just as she was about to cure cancer, end poverty and win the World Cup for England. And what about those poor wee darling boys having to grow up without a mothers love all the while knowing that their homicidal Nazi grandfather orchestrated their poor mammies murder.
Of course the ultimate tragedy is that Dodi's Dad (another victim of the embedded British privileged caste system) was distracted from his ordained role in life of turning Fulham into the mega power of European football. Which was probably their ultimate goal all along.
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@donsteppa "It was certainly a sad occasion, but a few people seemed to forget that there’s more than one way to care or to grieve."
This. I think one reason why those stupid manipulative FB posts like 'if you REALLY cared, you would share this post about cancer/suicide/animals in cages etc etc' shit me so much. Everything has to be a public song and dance, and if you don't make some grand gesture, it means you don't care.
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@jegga said in Grace Millane:
@mn5 said in Grace Millane:
Died in a nasty accident.
Punchline to one of THE best jokes ever.
Yes I'm going to he'll.....
Why did Diana cross the road?
Because she wasn’t wearing her seatbelt .
Have I told the Ingham Twins/Princess Di joke on here before? Still one of my favourites.
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@smudge said in Grace Millane:
@jegga said in Grace Millane:
@mn5 said in Grace Millane:
Died in a nasty accident.
Punchline to one of THE best jokes ever.
Yes I'm going to he'll.....
Why did Diana cross the road?
Because she wasn’t wearing her seatbelt .
Have I told the Ingham Twins/Princess Di joke on here before? Still one of my favourites.
No , do tell
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@jegga said in Grace Millane:
@smudge said in Grace Millane:
@jegga said in Grace Millane:
@mn5 said in Grace Millane:
Died in a nasty accident.
Punchline to one of THE best jokes ever.
Yes I'm going to he'll.....
Why did Diana cross the road?
Because she wasn’t wearing her seatbelt .
Have I told the Ingham Twins/Princess Di joke on here before? Still one of my favourites.
No , do tell
What's the difference between the Ingham Twins and Princess Di?
The Ingham Twins were tucked in a funnel.
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@hooroo said in Grace Millane:
@canefan let's just wait until the suppression is lifted before giving clues etc please
I was only passing on info readily available in the NZ media
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12176070
I have no idea who the guy is
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@virgil said in Grace Millane:
@hooroo said in Grace Millane:
@canefan let's just wait until the suppression is lifted before giving clues etc please
The Ingham twins??
Their exploits are hardly a secret...Yeap!! The link between Millane murder is all tied back to the Ingham Twins and Chicken....
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@hooroo the NZH post on FB about that article is getting lots of abusive angry responses.
At the end of the day, who cares if he was good at sport, he is alleged to be a murdering cnut, ifproven a murdering cnut, then off to jail he goes, sadly our system will unlikely leave him there for as long as he (and other murdering cnuts) deserves.
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I wouldn't want to be on the jury making a decision based on the facts, which will no doubt outrage all of the completely uninformed people on social media unless they give him the harshest possible sentence.
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I don't think that alleged accused in high profile cases should have anymore rights than the rest of us.
BUT the NZ journalists are being very irresponsible (again) by revealing all these details about this guy when a suppression order is in place. Obviously they (the media) know how far they can go before the line is crossed.
I don't know why it isn't just age and sex that can be published. Otherwise name suppression is really worthless. It's like a game where all the clues are given to allow you to work out the final clue and solve the puzzle.
If anyone wants to know his name it is easy enough to find but his lawyer has plenty of ammunition to use for jury selection etc when the trial starts.
