Grace Millane
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My sincere condolences to Grace's family and friends. What a horrible thing to happen to a young woman. May justice be done and may she then rest in peace.
There is something spineless, absurd and slightly sinister about the NZ media not releasing information that is freely available online or has been in almost every UK paper. Free societies depend on the free press to function.
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@sparky said in Grace Millane:
My deep condolences to Grace's family and friends. What a horrible thing to happen to a young woman. May justice be done and may she then rest in peace.
There is something spineless and slightly sinister about the NZ media not releasing information that is freely available online or has been in almost every UK paper. Free societies depend on the free press to function.
Well no cos it might fuck the case against him completely. They're actually trying to do the right thing.
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@sparky it is illegal for them to release the information in NZ, so they are complying and that makes them sinister and spineless..??
YOu may have heard of that presumption of innocence until proven guilty?
Think of all the sinister people out there that might do things to his family based on the Newspapers naming and shaming him as guilty.
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@mn5 But I suspect thousands of New Zealanders do or have done a Google news search or a Twitter search and have found out.
Let the press report everything, including crimes and alleged crimes freely. Then trust juries to judge cases on the evidence presented to them in court and come to the right decisions.
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@sparky said in Grace Millane:
@mn5 But I suspect thousands of New Zealanders do or have done a Google news search or a Twitter search and have found out.
Let the press report everything, including crimes and alleged crimes freely. Then trust juries to judge cases on the evidence presented to them in court and come to the right decisions.
So spread a name that is suppressed by a court?
Righto. Can't see any issues there....
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@dogmeat said in Grace Millane:
and he had a Vauxhall
There was nothing wrong with a Chevette if it was modified a bit. Well a lot. Quite a successful rally car.
Like @jegga I am amazed at how her Dad has taken it. He seems to realise that it only takes one bad night out, or one sicko and this happens. Not the place that it happens - looking at you Cindy.
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@mn5 I haven't searched, I dont know his name. I doubt I knew him so will happily sit here thinking he is just a murdering cnut without a name.
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@taniwharugby said in Grace Millane:
@mn5 I haven't searched, I dont know his name. I doubt I knew him so will happily sit here thinking he is just a murdering cnut without a name.
I was a bit busy actually getting on with my life and didn't attend any services for her so I guess I'm a bad person.
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@dogmeat said in Grace Millane:
@chris-b don't you geddit. He was a weird fucker - and he had a Vauxhall
Room for benefit of the doubt. Not like he had a Rover...
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@snowy said in Grace Millane:
@dogmeat said in Grace Millane:
and he had a Vauxhall
There was nothing wrong with a Chevette if it was modified a bit. Well a lot. Quite a successful rally car.
Like @jegga I am amazed at how her Dad has taken it. He seems to realise that it only takes one bad night out, or one sicko and this happens. Not the place that it happens - looking at you Cindy.
You had to do a lot to get a Chevette to be a decent car, my mate had one and we spent hours working on the fucking thing until he set fire to the interior while he was fixing a rust patch under the floor. We had two vivas too which were equally shit and underpowered the best we had was a cresta which are legendary
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@sparky said in Grace Millane:
@mn5 But I suspect thousands of New Zealanders do or have done a Google news search or a Twitter search and have found out.
Let the press report everything, including crimes and alleged crimes freely. Then trust juries to judge cases on the evidence presented to them in court and come to the right decisions.
Absolutely disagree. Mud sticks.
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Alison Mau really is a self aggrandising attention whore
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109298474/grace-millane-why-a-vigil-feels-right-right-now
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@jegga We are going to ruin this thread and that might be a bit disrespectful.
BUT, whilst I agree that Viva's are shit, I briefly drove a Chevette (that I inherited) and it had done 280,000kms without a cent spent on it. For the late "80's that is pretty good. When they were properly fixed they were good to get around on gravel /dirt roads pretty well.
I do feel that I would have been suspicious of anyone driving a Viva, like my father did, until I told him he was dead to me.
Well back to the vigil and grieving for me the heartless bastard.
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@snowy we all grieve differently for people we never heard of till they died.
Viva came out as a Firenza with a hotted up motor out of a Cf Bedford fan , they were cool . Chevettes were lumbered with a 1256 cc three main bearing dinosaur of a motor , reliable but meh .
Also there was this South African market only beast
Chevrolet Firenza Can Am: South Africa's Muscle Car - Street Muscle
One time not too long ago, General Motors ruled the world, and Chevrolet was its ambassador. Chevrolet was as American as Mom, baseball, and apple pie, but in South Africa there was the Chevrolet Firenza. Stuffed with the Camaro Z/28's 302 under the hood, it became the Firenza Can-Am.
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@jegga said in Grace Millane:
Alison Mau really is a self aggrandising attention whore
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109298474/grace-millane-why-a-vigil-feels-right-right-now
Thanks heaps Alison. Was wondering how you felt about everything.
